Can i just do penis stretching for length gains? If so what is the best routine?

[ohnodonny Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ohnodonny]

I am new and i am a bit overwhelmed with the amount of routines. I heard that penis stretching is the best source for lengthening. What would be a good routine for good results?

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Hello and Welcome!
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It will give you as bunch of different routines that you can start with. JP90 is a personal favorite of ours, just don't kegel while stretching despite what it says, you may pull a pelvic floor muscle and that's bad. Make sure to read the whole thing because there's important links about safety like the PI's (they are golden) and things to avoid that can hurt/hinder gains.
Good luck and happy gains!

[MarsSpyder Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close MarsSpyder]

I'd say the JP90 should be your beginner PE.

JP90 stretches got me half an inch of length in about 2 months with doing a light stretching routine for about a month before. It should be noted I lost weight(which improves EQ) and my jelqing was done at a low EQ for long periods so hat could have affected my gains.

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I am doing the JP90 now. should I stop doing kegals with stretches yes? sometimes i forget to do kegals throughout the day but when its apart of my routine its a consistent reminder for me

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I am doing the JP90 now. should I stop doing kegals with stretches yes? sometimes i forget to do kegals throughout the day but when its apart of my routine its a consistent reminder for me

1) if you kegel while you stretch you may pull a pelvic floor muscle
2) You have no business kegeling throughout the day, that is how you get an overactive pelvic floor. It is dangerous.
Less is more-less kegels, more intensity (longer holds, towel raises etc)
Do like 50 kegels at most, start off with 5 and work your way up to 50, read the pink section in the thread in my signature "Penis Enlargement and the Pelvic Floor"
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JP90 is a personal favorite of ours, just don't kegel while stretching despite what it says, you may pull a pelvic floor muscle and that's bad.
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HUH?! Really. Are you serious. Is that new news or what. Factual or your opinion. I'm new and started JP90 and now you got my attention. Shoot, I kinda liked the quick kegals with the stretch

[domnus Senior Member Member of the Month Dec 2016 Find all posts View Profile Close domnus]

Don't jump into a PE routine without educating yourself first ohnodonny. I assume you only have 1 dick. Why risk injury by starting something you know little about. Injuries are real in PE and they can be permanent. As suggested above by HansTwilight, study at https://www.pegym.com/forums/beginne...cess-here.html and learn all a beginner needs to know to PE safely. Go into this journey with all the knowledge you can, to be sure that you stay safe.
The PE gym has a lot of great member who are willing to help you stay on the right track so come back and ask questions when needed. Good luck and stay safe!

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2) You have no business kegeling throughout the day, that is how you get an overactive pelvic floor. It is dangerous.
Less is more-less kegels, more intensity (longer holds, towel raises etc)
Do like 50 kegels at most, for starters

What a minute. What do you mean. How and when should you kegal then? What about reps. How many? The site said do 50. I was gonna do 50 every other day. Being brand spanking new to kegals....what do you suggest 30? Maybe 3 sets of 10 holding for time?? That was also an idea. Attempt to reach 10 second holds; do 3 sets of 10

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JP90 is a personal favorite of ours, just don't kegel while stretching despite what it says, you may pull a pelvic floor muscle and that's bad.

HUH?! Really. Are you serious. Is that new news or what. Factual or your opinion. I'm new and started JP90 and now you got my attention. Shoot, I kinda liked the quick kegals with the stretch[/QUOTE]

Please read the tug of war theory in my thread, in fact, read the whole pink section.
It's the link in my signature.

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What a minute. What do you mean. How and when should you kegal then? What about reps. How many? The site said do 50. I was gonna do 50 every other day. Being brand spanking new to kegals....what do you suggest 30? Maybe 3 sets of 10 holding for time?? That was also an idea. Attempt to reach 10 second holds; do 3 sets of 10

everyone read this, all your questions on this thread will be answered. It's all in my signature as well.
When doing your actual PE exercises, it's important to be aware of your pelvic floor. A lot of people tense their PF muscle when touching their penis as mentioned previously. Although this isn't detrimental and in some circumstances it may be normal, it needs to be acknowledged when stretching. A lot of you will start off with a routine such as JP90 which is a really good routine, but there are some instructions in there that I truly believe need to be challenged. What I am referring to is kegeling while stretching. This is very risky in my opinion. The reason this is so is because when you pull on your penis and tighten your PC muscles (kegel) simultaneously, you are putting an extraordinary amount of stress on your BC muscle which lies in front of your PC and behind your genitals. Think of it as a tug of war between your penis and PC muscle, your BC is right in the middle of all this and is being pulled on from both side. I call this the "Tug of War Theory." This may not happen with the light kegels he mentions, but with kegel clenching (long, hard kegels) you will be putting stress on those BC muscles, plus, in the big picture, light kegels aren't necessary and it can be argued that they are potentially excessive. When there is this much tension in the PF from the kegeling while stretching the penis, that BC muscle may give out, if this happens, then you WILL be looking at hard flaccid. This can yield Levator ani syndrome, Chronic Pelvic Pain Syndrome and a host of other psychological problems that will affect your well being. Now, I am not trying to scare you away from PE as I have done it, made gains from it and intend on doing it in the future. It is safe as long as you do your research and take heed of this thread. I am only trying to save you from injuring your pelvic floor which, when doing PE, you already run the risk of penile injury if you are not careful. The the moral of this story is, don't kegel while stretching. The same can be applied to hanging and pumping. With clamping, the rules are a little different. You need to make sure that you keep your pelvic floor relaxed. Since by now you should be aware of the reverse kegel (if not look at the links in the section above). Later on in this passage, I will discuss proper kegel etiquette, explaining when and how they should be done.

The pelvic floor as we all know, controls blood flow to the penis, which is why people with tense pelvic floors may have some form of ED. So this is why it is important to make sure that it is fully balanced when doing PE. If you have ED, then you have low erection quality or EQ. EQ is the primary indicator of getting good gains. It is the message that is quietly preached on this site. I am attempting to turn up the volume and make it more clear. A lot people go into PE with low EQ, and this can be due to physical anomalies, stress and anxiety, overactive pelvic floors, lack of proper diet and exercise, or desensitization due to porn and masturbation addiction. It should also be noted that excessive masturbation and frivolous ejaculations have been known to hinder gains. This all contributes to the rule that one must not have any underlying physical, mental, or emotional anomalies before starting their PE journey.
So, analyze those things before starting PE. This is because of the impact EQ has on gains. Bad EQ, bad gains, good EQ, good gains. So, where am I going with this? Well I am going to further discuss a way to improve you EQ while keeping a healthy pelvic floor so you can maximize both your penis gains but also your PF gains.
If the previous things mentioned are in good order, then you will want to begin a
STAMINA TRAINING ROUTINENote that I did not write this routine, (Big Al) did and deserves the vast majority of the credit. I am just going more in depth to ensure it is done correctly so you can get the best results without risk of injury.
Because stamina training helps with EQ, it will help you maximize your gains while simultaneously helping you last longer in bed. This is why stamina training is important to do along with your enlargement exercises and it should always be done regardless if you don't feel like doing the PE exercises that day. It is like leg day, you just can't skip it.
Stamina training should be done after your enlargement exercises, before the warmdown. If your EQ is really poor, consider only doing stamina training, just make sure to warmup. Your warmups and warmdowns should be done with either a hot washcloth, heating pad, rice sock, or a hot bath/shower. Massage your penis on the warmdowns.
Start off doing erect kegels, 5 second hold. These will strengthen the PF muscle and allow for more blood to flow in to penis. All kegeling should be done while erect, and you should always reverse kegel afterwards to remind your pelvic floor to relax even though you have just tensed it. You are only kegeling to strengthen and tone the muscles, so you need to tell you pelvic floor that staying relaxed is still the rule. You will do this by incorporating a 30% to 70% kegel to reverse kegel regimen. 30% kegels 70% reverse kegels hiindis etc.
LJMatey's Push/Pull Concept
I was PMing with a guy who brought up a very brilliant idea. What you will do is 1 erect kegel, then right after you will do 1 reverse kegel. This will put futher emphasis on the reminders we give our PFs to relax. You wll do this 4 more times, so 5 erect kegels and 5 reverse kegels. It will look like this:
EK/RK/EK/RK/EK/RK/EK/RK/EK/RK

Trust me you will only want to start off with 5, erect kegels are very intense and kegeling in general is the most abused form of male enhancement. This is due to several reasons: They are easy and convenient, they engorge the penis increasing its size temporarily, they increase feelings of pleasure, they are habit forming, but most of all, there is very unclear instructions about doing them on the internet. People need to realize that sometimes that lack of clear, detailed information can hurt somebody, it is sheer laziness. If one can't be specific enough to tell someone to simply only kegel outside of their training until they train for MMO (which by that time you will know what you are doing and will have full control of your muscles) then they have no business giving male enhancement advise! But that is what I'm here for.
♂You need to add 1 erect kegel per workout as long as everything goes as planned and there's no soreness. Work your way up to 50 and then start over but do towel raises. I don't recommend exceeding 50 towel raises from the start as you can simply increase the length of time you are clenching so instead of 5 second do 10 maybe. The rule of thumb with these is this, less is more. Make sure to do more reverse kegels and hindis to live up to that 30% 70% rule. Hindis should be started off with 5 mins then work your way up to 15 mins. More than that may be excessive and you should work on Iso's Squat (video in the important exercise #2.5 section).

After doing your kegels and reverse kegels you will do your
Stop and Starts.
Stop and starts are a type of edging where you stimulate yourself through lubricated masturbation with a soft grip, a flesh light, or a partner. Note that hand edging (masturbation) will be easier than sex/flesh light. You will want to try to ultimately work up to 20-25 mins. To do this you will stimulate yourself until you reach the PONR, then STOP until the feeling subsides, then your will START back again. This is 1 stop and start. Do 10-15 of these and time yourself to see how long you can go. You should try to atleast add on 30 secs each session so make sure you are keeping a log of your time like every good PE'er does. You goal should be 20-25 mins in 3 stop and starts. Anything more than 20-25 mins is excessive and possibly counter productive. I can't stress this enough, no kegeling while stimulating!
Make sure that if you are edging on your own you are using fantasy instead of porn, this is training, and we aren't training to watch porn!
Whether or not you should ejaculate afterwards depends on how much you ejaculating outside of your training. If you are not sexually active you may ejaculate in your training, but if you are sexually active you may want to save your ejaculations until then because over ejaculation hinders gains.
Finally do your warmdown.

[ohnodonny Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ohnodonny]

the thing is i heard jelqing is mostly focused on girth. And i read on reddit about how many people actually injured themselves doing this so i'm a bit hesitant about it

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You injure yourself when you over train.
Girth work expands tissue in the tunica, which promotes length, do your jelqs at low erection lvl (like 50%).
We are a whole site dedicated to PE, reddit isn't. Our info holds more weight.

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Just read all that. Ok. No stretching and kegalling. Got a question. You only kegel when erect? I have a hard time maintaining enough erection to jelq. So you're saying, perform JP90 exercise, then achieve full erection and do 5 to 10 kegels for time but include reverse kegals as a beginner?

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1) if you kegel while you stretch you may pull a pelvic floor muscle

Hmm...I used to always kegel while I stretched at the beginning of my routine. I used it as a way to knock out my kegels and a way to "count" my holds without having to watch the clock (multi-tasking). I never had any problems from doing so, either. Everyone's different I assume, but some of US ARE SPECIAL!

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Just read all that. Ok. No stretching and kegalling. Got a question. You only kegel when erect? I have a hard time maintaining enough erection to jelq. So you're saying, perform JP90 exercise, then achieve full erection and do 5 to 10 kegels for time but include reverse kegals as a beginner?

Yes, kegels need to be done while erect, If you have trouble maintaining erections then you may have low EQ. Do you masturbate to porn and if yes how much?
Reverse kegels are mandatory, the prevent your pelvic floor from getting tense. The PF muscles are naive, they can be trrained easily to tense and physiotherapy is the standard protocol to eliminate the tension. This is the stuff docs don't even know. It's a new thing.