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  • TANGO 5/10
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    I think Edging / Ballooning will have a positive effect on EQ. I personally didn't Edge when I first started PE but now I'll go 45-60 minutes on a Fleshlight. It's given me some good gains. My only thing is I would not EJACULATE. So my 5 on 2 off or 2 on 1 off . I don't do any PE or Stamina Training on the weekends. That's my time with the Mrs.

    If anything happens during the week it still doesn't really effect my PI'S but I think you have to build to that and not rush it or you will overtrain.

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  • hardwoody
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    If you edge on non-training days, do you still warm up before edging and warm down afterwards? It seems that some of the guys like PESG and Jay1983 had some significant early gains and they were doing a LOT of edging. I'm just wondering if I edge on a training day, as a newby, should I stick to no more than 20 minutes? If I edge on a training day, do I need to warm down first after PE, or is it okay to edge for however long I want, then warm down?

    I was on the JP90 program for a while but it was taking a long time and I think I was probably overworking my unit, like assassins147 says. Plus I don't think I saw much in the way of gains and my EQ was down, so I switched to using the JP90 stretches, which I've now got down to 15 minutes then I follow that with 10 minutes of slow jelqing (5 second strokes as with the PESG program). I also have gone from really pulling hard to pulling much more gentle and jelq grips have been more gentle with PESG's idea of not "breaking the egg". I just switched, so I'll have to see if I'm making any gains. But on days when I'm doing this more gentle program, I notice my unit really feels like it's been through MORE of a workout than when I exclusively did the JP90 program. I feel like it's working better for me, and I can knock out this program in 30 minutes, but I do warm up and warm down around 15 minutes before and after with a rice sock, so in total the PE takes about an hour, not counting edging time. Assassins147, sounds like we're kind of in the same boat, so I'm sharing my experiences and asking questions that may help both of us. I also started a light program in December then switched to the JP90 program Jan 28 or so I think, so we've been on PE about the same time.

    I may have actually seen some gains with two months of PE with a fully 100% erection of around a 0.25" in length but no girth gains, except from the base up my shaft around an inch, and that gain was around 0.25". The base girth gains are fairly visible to me, as it looks like the shaft has been kind of tubularized a bit more. It's clear that something has changed there as it's definitely thicker and more ridged/ribbed than before PE, but only the first inch from the base. I notice a bit more flaccid hang too, but just a bit. I take it that's what the girth gains look like and I'll be happy when I see that new ribbed, tubular growth all the way up the shaft. I'm assuming that's what early girth gains look like?

    Oh, and BTW, I've been doing kegels and reverse kegels much more often since I was having EQ issues, for maybe two plus weeks, doing maybe 120 kegels and maybe 100ish reverse kegels a day and I seem to now be able to really engage my BC muscles to keep a hard erection. It definitely seems to work for masturbation and keeping an erection, but I haven't had sex since I've made improvements here, but I definitely feel much more in control and confident it's gonna carry over to keeping myself hard during sex. Because with the JP90 program I was hit and miss with my EQ just like the OP and I found that I lose my erection more during sex, and that definitely got my attention to reflect and make some changes.
    Last edited by hardwoody; 03-04-2017, 09:17 PM.

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  • Sondremac
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    I have a tendency to overdo edging sessions, and then overwork the unit, because it does take its toll as well. Keep the edging light! Sneak up on the wall, don't run to it, so to speak.

    I noticed that after I cut back on edging, my eq and pis were alot better, so if I now do edging, I do very little else training that day, this has helped me ramp up the intensity of my training, and I started gaining after that.

    Try it out for yourself? We are all different and you need to figure out what works for you. Just because it helps other people, it might not be the right path for you good luck!

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  • assassins147
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    Well poor EQ again the next day so only 2 days out of the 7 I've actually had good EQ. Still have a longer hanging flaccid but everything else is seeming to be weaker again. More failure when will it end damn it! Lol

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  • assassins147
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    OK thanks for the advice I will take it down a notch. maybe to 100 kegals. but i do not do them every day though. just on jelq days. rest days I don't do any...

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  • assassins147
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    I gained before a 0.1 girth gain which i believe was due to big al's squeezes. I used to do 10-20 of these along with my jp90 but then stopped due to negative PI's. but i have since lost the gain and have gone completely back to normal Just finished another session now. Stretches + Kegals + 10 Rotation Stretches + 10 mins two handed jelqs which auto made me go to about 60-65% EQ. rested a couple minutes for it to go back down before resuming. and then finished with 30 V jelq. I will see how i respond after this... Hopefully it will be for the better

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  • Jay1983
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    Although 200 kegels a day sounds a bit extreme to me, ease up on your kegel contractions.

    Don't kegel hard, kegel just enough to work the BC muscle. Also, you might want to look into reverse kegels.

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  • Pipeman
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    You'll figure it. You never mentioned, have you gained anything?

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  • assassins147
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    Well i think some of those bad PIs came in because of jelqing at a higher erection level. I started getting more consistent results when i switched to lower % 40-60 ish. I am going to go do my day 6 session right now anyways... xD so I will see how I respond again later tonight. I rarely seem to get night wood but in the morning I can defo tell if I have positive PI's straight away from the hardness of my erection! Also trying to figure out if one handed jelqs or two handed work better for me. I prefer one handed because when i do two handed sometimes it will stretch the skin too much at the base and its more uncomfortable after a while but I am yet to determine which gives me the better results.... Also day 5 and 6 were both bad XD

    It's more like day 1 bad, day 2 good, day 3 bad, day 4 good, day 5 and 6 bad
    Last edited by assassins147; 03-02-2017, 03:28 PM.

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  • Pipeman
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    Looking at your day 1-6, it almost looks like day 1 good pi, day 2 bad, day 3 good, day 4 bad, day 5 good, day 6 bad. Just looking at that. Maybe 1 on 1 off might work with that routine.. I dunno

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  • assassins147
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    Thanks for the responses guys.

    I do about 200 kegals whilst doing my routine with my stretches. as i stretch i do 30 kegals with each one as I was told to do with the JP90 so i continued to do so. I do not do any reverse kegals though....

    I do get good EQ but its not consistent. maybe 2-3 times a week at most but I am seeing no gains, Do feel stimulation and blood flow in the penis after exercises though...

    I usually edge on the days I have Positive PI's because it makes me extremely horny. so again about 2-3 times a week and i probably ejaculate about the same. once every 2-3 days but not always on edging days....

    As for food choices... I eat like a king lol. I love to cook and its one of my passions and I spend a lot of money and time making good food, rest assured there is no problem here xD

    Sleep levels are good, i Usually get 8 hours minimum if i can and I don't really have much stress in my life at the moment. I am in my 20s and still living with family so I am not really stressed about the hardships of life too much right now lol. I get to save a lot of my money from working so I am not in a bad position at the moment....

    Mindset has always been very positive. I am definitely the type to stay dedicated and achieve something if i really want it that bad! I've rarely missed a session and I still keep at it even with the discouraging results so far.

    So all in all I shouldn't be having too many problems, I just haven't found the routine that will give me consistent results and PI's. Any advice would be appreciated!

    Thanks guys

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  • closed291
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    How is your food choices? Sleep levels? Negative stress levels? Mindset during PE?

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  • Jay1983
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    Poor EQ aye?

    How many kegels are you doing?
    Doing any reverse kegels?
    How often are you edging?
    How often are you ejaculating, counting all ejaculations?

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  • assassins147
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    That is what i thought but maybe I am stopping too late? Because like i said when i finally do climax not much ejaculate comes out because it dribbles every now and then when i try to hold it back in an intense edge session. But yeah I will continue to do so I guess xD

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  • Cavalier
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    Edging shouldn't have a negative effect on your EQ. Stamina exercises such as edging are used to help to improve EQ.

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