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    Before I begin I'd like to say that, first, I'm typing this on mobile so I apologize for any mistakes, second, I have no doubt people have asked some of the questions I will raise and I'm not unfamiliar with the search engine, I just prefer to ask things my own way and get fresh answers from new eyes. I apologize to those of you who have likely have seen the same questions for years. Finally I'd like to apologize for the size of thos post but I'd really appreciate it if you could take the time to read it and help me out. I just wanted to get everything out here.

    Ok, I'llstart with a brief intro. I first heard about PE a few years back shortly after I finished school. I read into it a bit and heard a lot of contradictory info and never really committed to it. I have pretty bad body dysmorphia so even though my starting stats are supposedly above average I've always had severe anxiety about the whole thing. Even though I have other things going for me, this has severely interfered with my confidence and it will usually get in the way of any type of hookup or relationship. I never bring up my insecurities I simply find a way to botch the whole thing before it progress farther due to an intense anxiety/fear of feeling inferior or inadequate. I'm 6 bpel and 5 for girth, give or take a little on both depending on the day and situation. I really don't care about biological average to be honest. The fact remains that a large number of people's first exposure to sex is porn and their friends, classmates comments, etc and given the tendency for men to inflate their size, this leads to most who are around average feeling small by comparison, especially when coupled with something like bdd.
    So with all that said I thought I should stop feeling sorry for myself and at least make an attempt to improve things and see if there's anything to PE. That's the mentality that lead to me posting this.

    My first question has to do with something odd I've noticed just browsing the community. I don't mean to offend, I'm just naturally skeptical by nature so make of this what you will. I find it odd that a large portion of those who post on the forums have starting stats well above the reported average size. I've seen numerous claims of starting stats in the high 7 even some pushing 8. Now I'm aware that there are certainly men this size and they are not immune to societal pressure or the desire to be more than what they are, but it makes me more than a little suspicious to come to a PE site and find that a number of the men are starting well above the reported average and this in turn makes me question the validity of their other claims. I would say it's not an extreme leap to assume that larger men would notice they have an extra inch or two and likely receive comments from time to time. One would assume that men on the lower end of average and below would make up the majority of this sites population. Now I'm aware that it may be these other members exist and are simply too embarrassed by their starting stats to post them, due to reasons I mentioned, or perhaps some men inflate their stats a bit to something they are more comfortable with? I'd just like to hear some opinions on this. And again, this isn't meant to offend or write this off as a scam. It's simply something I cant help but notice and I'd like input. This would essentially be the equivalent of going to a site that claims drastic changes in height are possible and finding the majority of forum users started out at 6 3 rather than below or simply right at the average. All one needs to do is look into some of the drastic surgical options available for things like height to see that the people getting these procedures are usually below average, often to a large degree, and while I'm not suggesting PE is near as extreme or risky as the above mentioned procedure, I still would think similar logic would apply when it comes to those drawn to this site.

    Second question is a lot more basic and has been asked before in different ways. Assuming all this is legit and this works, what is the typical size increase one could expect within a year or two? I'm aware everyone is different but I was curious if anyone had charted the typical rate of growth. My min goal would be 7.5bpel and probably 6girth. My more extreme goal would be somewhere around 8.5 to 9 bpel and 7 or so girth. Are these unrealistic given your experience or is it simply a matter of time and effort? Just to be clear I wouldn't need to reach the goal within two years. I was simply curious where I could reasonably expect to be within that timeframe.

    Third question has to do with the best resources to use. Obviously I'll read over all of the stickied info and recommended starting methods, etc, but are there any other resources you guys would recommend that are not stickied or as well known.

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    Hi TCG,

    I wanted to personally welcome you to the forums. Right now, I am at work so my responses would be limited. Please give our members some time to answer your questions. Thank you for posting them. We look forward to being a help if we can.
    How fair is thy love, my sister, my spouse! how much better is thy love than wine! and the smell of thine ointments than all spices! ~ Song of Solomon 4:10

    For things to change, you have to change.” - Jim Rohn, The Art of Exceptional Living

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Ujjayi View Post
      Hi TCG,

      I wanted to personally welcome you to the forums. Right now, I am at work so my responses would be limited. Please give our members some time to answer your questions. Thank you for posting them. We look forward to being a help if we can.

      Thanks, I appreciate it! I'm in no rush and happy for any help I get!

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      • #5
        Thanks for cleaning up the title! I admit my thoughts were a bit scattered here. I was trying to cover everything so I wasn't sure what to title it.

        I'll also be sure to go over those links! I read a few similar ones in the past, but more is always welcomed.

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        • #6
          Not only does genetics play a part but also one's availability and level of commitment. Two hours a day vs four or five of PE and three vs five days a week plays a big part. It's possible to gain an inch or more a year. Your routine plays a big part. Look at my progress in my signature. My progress log shows what I did.
          Progress Log | Extender Progress Log
          Recommended Routine
          2016 (5 1/2 x 4 1/2) > 2017 (7 5/8 x 5 5/8) > 2020 (8 x 5 3/4) > Oct 2021 (7 1/2 x 5 3/4)
          BPEL Gains: 2.5" | MEG Gains: 1.25"

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          • #7
            Originally posted by TheCountryGuy View Post
            My first question has to do with something odd I've noticed just browsing the community. I don't mean to offend, I'm just naturally skeptical by nature so make of this what you will. I find it odd that a large portion of those who post on the forums have starting stats well above the reported average size. I've seen numerous claims of starting stats in the high 7 even some pushing 8. Now I'm aware that there are certainly men this size and they are not immune to societal pressure or the desire to be more than what they are, but it makes me more than a little suspicious to come to a PE site and find that a number of the men are starting well above the reported average and this in turn makes me question the validity of their other claims. I would say it's not an extreme leap to assume that larger men would notice they have an extra inch or two and likely receive comments from time to time. One would assume that men on the lower end of average and below would make up the majority of this sites population. Now I'm aware that it may be these other members exist and are simply too embarrassed by their starting stats to post them, due to reasons I mentioned, or perhaps some men inflate their stats a bit to something they are more comfortable with? I'd just like to hear some opinions on this. And again, this isn't meant to offend or write this off as a scam. It's simply something I cant help but notice and I'd like input. This would essentially be the equivalent of going to a site that claims drastic changes in height are possible and finding the majority of forum users started out at 6 3 rather than below or simply right at the average. All one needs to do is look into some of the drastic surgical options available for things like height to see that the people getting these procedures are usually below average, often to a large degree, and while I'm not suggesting PE is near as extreme or risky as the above mentioned procedure, I still would think similar logic would apply when it comes to those drawn to this site.
            Personally, I wouldn't say I have noticed that the majority of the men on here had starting stats way above average but I have seen a good number above average. In my own experience with PE, I did a little bit of jelqing before I even did any kind of serious routine. I jelqed every so often sometimes consistent for about 3 weeks other times, maybe a week or so. I know I made gains before I even recorded my first measurement. I would guess my true starting size was somewhere around 5.5 x 5.3 or something like that.....even then I am not even quite sure so I don't record that as my "initial penis size".....I could be off by a quarter inch on both stats. So my point is, some guys like myself, may have made some gains prior to recording their first measurement.

            Originally posted by TheCountryGuy View Post
            Second question is a lot more basic and has been asked before in different ways. Assuming all this is legit and this works, what is the typical size increase one could expect within a year or two? I'm aware everyone is different but I was curious if anyone had charted the typical rate of growth. My min goal would be 7.5bpel and probably 6girth. My more extreme goal would be somewhere around 8.5 to 9 bpel and 7 or so girth. Are these unrealistic given your experience or is it simply a matter of time and effort? Just to be clear I wouldn't need to reach the goal within two years. I was simply curious where I could reasonably expect to be within that timeframe.
            With starting stats of 6 x 5.......to get to 7.5 x 6 that's gonna take a long time. Every guy is different. I'd say at least a year to a year and a half....but don't quote me or expect the results to come within that time frame. 9 x 7? That's actually my long term goal as well! I'd say you can maybe expect that to take 3-4 years. I can't really say though. Its different for everyone. What really will matter the most, is the consistency and effort you put in to PE.

            Originally posted by TheCountryGuy View Post
            Third question has to do with the best resources to use. Obviously I'll read over all of the stickied info and recommended starting methods, etc, but are there any other resources you guys would recommend that are not stickied or as well known.
            I mean this site is pretty darn thorough as far as the sticky threads go. Make sure you read the START HERE! threads. Also, we are coming up on a new year and the 2019 Make Your Dick Bigger Thread is probably going to posted within the next couple weeks. I am looking forward to participating this year! Maybe that is something you'll want to check out as well.
            6/23/16 (Start)
            BPEL: 5 13/16" BEG: 5 3/4"
            3/31/22
            BPEL: 7 9/16" MEG: 5 9/16" BEG: 6 3/8"
            Monthly Goal - May 2022:
            BPEL: 7 3/4" MEG: 5 3/4"
            Full 2022 Year Goal on Profile Kik: Swimbarracuda

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            • #8
              Originally posted by Swimbarracuda View Post
              Personally, I wouldn't say I have noticed that the majority of the men on here had starting stats way above average but I have seen a good number above average. In my own experience with PE, I did a little bit of jelqing before I even did any kind of serious routine. I jelqed every so often sometimes consistent for about 3 weeks other times, maybe a week or so. I know I made gains before I even recorded my first measurement. I would guess my true starting size was somewhere around 5.5 x 5.3 or something like that.....even then I am not even quite sure so I don't record that as my "initial penis size".....I could be off by a quarter inch on both stats. So my point is, some guys like myself, may have made some gains prior to recording their first measurement.



              With starting stats of 6 x 5.......to get to 7.5 x 6 that's gonna take a long time. Every guy is different. I'd say at least a year to a year and a half....but don't quote me or expect the results to come within that time frame. 9 x 7? That's actually my long term goal as well! I'd say you can maybe expect that to take 3-4 years. I can't really say though. Its different for everyone. What really will matter the most, is the consistency and effort you put in to PE.



              I mean this site is pretty darn thorough as far as the sticky threads go. Make sure you read the START HERE! threads. Also, we are coming up on a new year and the 2019 Make Your Dick Bigger Thread is probably going to posted within the next couple weeks. I am looking forward to participating this year! Maybe that is something you'll want to check out as well.
              I appreciate your input! That sounds like a reasonable timeframe but I agree that it's probably best to just be happy with the results you're getting regardless of timeframe. The main reason I asked is just so I could have some base understanding of what the progression may look like and what others seem to experience on average. I assume that as long as I see at least some results I'll continue to stick with it as long as it takes. As far as the upcoming thread you mentioned, is that some type of new years resolution event related to PE? I've not heard of that before.

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              • #9
                Originally posted by TheCountryGuy View Post
                I appreciate your input! That sounds like a reasonable timeframe but I agree that it's probably best to just be happy with the results you're getting regardless of timeframe. The main reason I asked is just so I could have some base understanding of what the progression may look like and what others seem to experience on average. I assume that as long as I see at least some results I'll continue to stick with it as long as it takes. As far as the upcoming thread you mentioned, is that some type of new years resolution event related to PE? I've not heard of that before.
                No Problem! Yeah this is going to take some time. In the month of December I gained 3 sixteenths in both length and girth. If I were to somehow gain that much each month, I'd be at 9 x 8.75 (That's too much girth lol) in February 2020. This is very unlikely (in my opinion) though because gains seem to slow down after you've gained so much. I also just came back from a very long break from PE and it seems like after I come back from long breaks, I make good gains the first month or two coming back.

                And here's the thread I was talking about:

                https://www.pegym.com/forums/progres...challenge.html

                It's for 2018.....a new one for 2019 will be created within the next couple weeks I'd imagine.
                6/23/16 (Start)
                BPEL: 5 13/16" BEG: 5 3/4"
                3/31/22
                BPEL: 7 9/16" MEG: 5 9/16" BEG: 6 3/8"
                Monthly Goal - May 2022:
                BPEL: 7 3/4" MEG: 5 3/4"
                Full 2022 Year Goal on Profile Kik: Swimbarracuda

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                • #10
                  Hey TheCountryGuy !

                  Welcome to the Gym

                  It would be a good idea to click on the Start Here button at the top left of the page. Lots of good information on what the Gym is all about, including best practices and safety tips.

                  It is always recommended to start with a beginners routine (doesn't have to be the JP) and continue with it for 90 days or until you stop gaining. Start slowly and build up to the full routine over a few weeks.

                  Jelq with an erection level between 40 and 70%. Do not grip too tight, just enough to feel blood moving up the shaft. When stretching, grab your shaft about one inch below the glans and do not pull too hard, just enough to to feel a slight stretch. Let your PIs be your guide as to how hard to pursue your routine.

                  In my case, I was fairly committed and worked on my PE five or six days a week yet it took me over four years to gain about one inch in length and girth.


                  Dont forget to take good starting measurements and photos so you have a solid base to compare your gains to.

                  PE safely and good luck with your endeavors
                  Valued Member of 12+ years at the PEGym
                  12/'09 (start) NBP EL - 4.5, EG - 4.4
                  12/11 NBPEL - 5.1, MSEG - 5
                  01/13 NBPEL - 5.35, MSEG - 5.1
                  01/14 NBPEL - 5.35, MSEG - 5.25
                  01/16 NBPEL - 5.4, MSEG - 5.5
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                  • #11
                    Originally posted by TheCountryGuy View Post
                    ...
                    So with all that said I thought I should stop feeling sorry for myself and at least make an attempt to improve things and see if there's anything to PE. That's the mentality that lead to me posting this.
                    It is really worth a try. There is something to it.
                    However, it does take time, dedication and mindfulness. Be aware that injury is possible, though unlikely if done properly. And it takes time and effort. For myself I believe it is best approached holistically: I have rearranged a great deal of my life around PE, from diet and exercise to sleep and daily schedule. But the benefits are manifold. Better health, stronger and larger erections, and best of all, improved sex life.

                    Originally posted by TheCountryGuy View Post
                    My first question has to do with something odd I've noticed just browsing the community. I don't mean to offend, I'm just naturally skeptical by nature so make of this what you will. I find it odd that a large portion of those who post on the forums have starting stats well above the reported average size. I've seen numerous claims of starting stats in the high 7 even some pushing 8. Now I'm aware that there are certainly men this size and they are not immune to societal pressure or the desire to be more than what they are, but it makes me more than a little suspicious to come to a PE site and find that a number of the men are starting well above the reported average and this in turn makes me question the validity of their other claims.
                    I wonder if that might be due to halo-effect. You start to look through a few threads and see a few guys who are above average, and that influences how you view the whole site. When I browse through the threads I notice a lot of average guys trying to improve. There are one or two larger guys who want to build on what they have, but not all that many.
                    Big Al probably has accurate stats, maybe he'll pipe in...

                    Originally posted by TheCountryGuy View Post
                    This would essentially be the equivalent of going to a site that claims drastic changes in height are possible and finding the majority of forum users started out at 6 3 rather than below or simply right at the average.
                    I think it would better compared to going to a bodybuilding site and seeing all sorts of people who are already in shape.

                    Originally posted by TheCountryGuy View Post
                    Second question is a lot more basic and has been asked before in different ways. Assuming all this is legit and this works, what is the typical size increase one could expect within a year or two? I'm aware everyone is different but I was curious if anyone had charted the typical rate of growth. My min goal would be 7.5bpel and probably 6girth.
                    There are lots of threads that deal with this, for example:
                    https://www.pegym.com/forums/success...w+long+to+gain

                    It took me about a year to gain an inch length wise. But it has taken over three to gain 2 inches.
                    It has taken 3 years to gain an inch in girth.

                    Originally posted by TheCountryGuy View Post
                    Third question has to do with the best resources to use. Obviously I'll read over all of the stickied info and recommended starting methods, etc, but are there any other resources you guys would recommend that are not stickied or as well known.
                    Hard to say. A lot of new folks will use personal messages to contact more experienced members and ask for specific advice.
                    03/2015 Start <Able to last ~ 2 mins PIV>
                    Thread
                    12/2019 EL: +2.2 MEG: +1 <Able to last 60+ mins PIV>

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                    • #12
                      I'm encouraged by all the replies so far! It seems the members of this site are quite helpful from my initial impressions! From the sound of things it seems like I'll be better off not overthinking the time it takes to achieve my goals and just working on my confidence issues, which if I'm being honest would likely exist regardless of the size of my dick, as add the exercises into my schedule and hopefully see improvements overtime. I'll read over all the links you guys provided once I get the chance!

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                      • #13
                        Welcome to the forum, I just want to say a few things here, not all of us here are starting with a big size, I've started 5.5 which is mid average, not cool and let me tell you I'm seeing results after just one month following beginner routine, of course being skeptical is unavoidable as PE doesn't work for everyone but that's like saying any body exercise should reflect the same results on everyone which is not true, even antibiotics will affect one person differently than another, for some reason it also will simply not work, that is a medicine used for ages and approved by all medical institutions around the world, so it's not a surprise that PE may not work the same or work at all for some people, I hope this side of it is out of the way, now about guys who start big, you've been to gym before I bet, what do you see in there? have you ever noticed that big guys body building are more than thin guys who need it? in other words people who already have something always like to improve on it, for example a person who's naturally good looking may be more obsessed with standing in front of the mirror than someone who needs it, it's human nature, when we have a good feature we like to boost it even more to give more value to it and thus more value to us overall, one the other side a person may shy away from a poor feature and convince themselves it's fine and not think about it, a guy with a big penis may be more confident working on it because he's already not worried about it while a smaller guy will be like "what if this doesn't work" and keep a negative mindset because of how desperate he is to improve upon what he doesn't feel confident with. I hope this makes some sense.

                        Now about your long term goal which is 3 inches over your current stats, it's a big goal, you may reach it one day but it could take many years and you could hit a genetics wall but you can grow if you commit to it, does it really matter how much? any growth is better than nothing!
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