JP's 90 Day Beginner Routine

[DemOne]

Sorry to bother you with again another question, however I got all the supplements you mention on the start of this thread and all the aminos you list on the thread about restimulating hgh production, but whilst talking to a naturopath yesterday, she told me that L-lysine and L-arginine somewhat fight each other, so i looked further into this, and i stumbled across this page, its pretty much down the bottom of the page, but the whole [age was a pretty good read.

Whats your opinion on this?
http://www.umm.edu/altmed/articles/lysine-000312.htm

Thanks again for your time.

https://www.pegym.com/forums/beginners-forum/22025-jps-supplements.html#post226000

[Patrick32]

https://www.pegym.com/forums/beginners-forum/22025-jps-supplements.html#post226000

Awesome thanks demone

[Trev]

I'm not sure if I understood V-jelq. (I checked for V-jelq video, but it didn't work anymore) Is the V-jelq done like this? (between forefinger and middlefinger? http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/9222/124999912.jpg
My drawing's bad. Hopefully you'll get it.

[aka69]

question, how much of a gain in girth and length is typical for the 90 day routine?

[Juice]

question, how much of a gain in girth and length is typical for the 90 day routine?

You can't really set standard gains for 90 days. It all varies from dick to dick

[ldbraveheart]

Amazing, JP, 157 pages of comments! My question is this: Jelq instructions say that you should hold your skin back, so as to focus the jelq on strethcing internals, not skin. With the 2-handed jelq, I seem to be stretching a lot of skin; and it's difficult for me to hold back skin with 1 hand while also trying to jelq with both hands. I experimented with holding the base skin with 1 hand, and jelqing repeatedly with the other hand (and switching hands after 25 jelqs). It seemed quite effective. Is this revision something you would recommend, or not? Thanks.

[normalguy]

I'm not sure if I understood V-jelq. (I checked for V-jelq video, but it didn't work anymore) Is the V-jelq done like this? (between forefinger and middlefinger? http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/9222/124999912.jpg
My drawing's bad. Hopefully you'll get it.

Your drawing was ok. Here's an helpful link: https://www.pegym.com/forums/penis-e...strations.html. Here, it's not done between the forefinger and the middlefinger but I think that it doesn't matter. I personally do it the way you described it because I found that I had more strength with these fingers. What really matters is that you can see and feel how efficient your jelq is.

question, how much of a gain in girth and length is typical for the 90 day routine?

We're all different so it's almost impossible to answer... You'll have to make your own experience.

... Jelq instructions say that you should hold your skin back, so as to focus the jelq on strethcing internals, not skin. With the 2-handed jelq, I seem to be stretching a lot of skin; and it's difficult for me to hold back skin with 1 hand while also trying to jelq with both hands. I experimented with holding the base skin with 1 hand, and jelqing repeatedly with the other hand (and switching hands after 25 jelqs). It seemed quite effective. Is this revision something you would recommend, or not? Thanks.

A lot of lube helps to deal with skin and have an efficient jelq without pulling too much on the skin. You could switch to an overhand grip instead of an underhand grip (if that's what you were doing) as it pulls far less on the skin. Last, if you feel more comfortable with a 1 hand jelq, then keep on doing it, especially if you can see it as more efficient.

[NN12]

Is it okay if I do the jelqs under hand instead of overhand? I really like to see as a move up the shaft and with overhand i cant see anything. Thanks.

And just to clarify the 150 jelqs are reps and you say both hands equal one rep so the 150 reps = 300 jelqs correct?

[normalguy]

Is it okay if I do the jelqs under hand instead of overhand? I really like to see as a move up the shaft and with overhand i cant see anything.

Both grips are fine. Some PEers use one, some the others and some alternate between the two!

And just to clarify the 150 jelqs are reps and you say both hands equal one rep so the 150 reps = 300 jelqs correct?[/QUOTE]
That is correct (for wet jelqs!). For V-jelqs, 1 rep = 3 hands so 30 reps = 90 jelqs...

[NN12]

Thank you sir.

Also, do you alternate between wet and v jelqs so 50 wet, 30 v etc...