JP's 90 Day Beginner Routine

**mr.8and1/2** · 09-13-2009

What would be really good to see would be pictures. Showing us the ideal erection level for jelqing, jelqing exercises, what to avoid, good little tips, just stuff like that.

I know you guys can be descriptive. But us newbs find it hard to follow when you say stuff like "30% erection level".

**jzgk** · 09-15-2009

I have some questions....

I read in this site that masturbation contributed to not obtaining the most gains in comparison to the group of men who did not masterbute as often, and to be more precise, the men who ejaculated the least gained the most of all groups. Then I read a post in this thread that he was commiting himself to having less masturbations and sex (I would imagine to have the most gains possible). Is this necessary, or can one still have sex and masturbate after a couple of hours and not interfear with the results. It would be extremely hard to go and have an orgasm a week, since I am not that experience with PE and I do not know how to have dry orgasms yet.

I do the routine in the morning, and we like to have sex at night to put us to sleep. I feel this is "safe" to say that it will not affect the results, am I not correct? It is during this time that I practice edging and I believe that eventhough I am new to PE it is safe to try even before I finish the 90 day routine. This should not affect the growth process just enhance our sexual encounter.

Next question is I read in this site of a lube called BIO OIL that was very good for doing PE but that post was back in 2004. I am using Baby Oil with Aloe Vera and Vitamin E, and it is a bit messy. I was wondering if there is anything newer in the market that might be better than the Body Oil with by now that we can use, that can help me since my penis is becoming darker due to the heat in both the warm ups and warm downs with a hot rag. If I can substitute to another lube that will aid my skin to stay more its natural color.

I am just starting my second week with PE, but I can feel a fuller penis in its flacid state. I kegel constantly and I have seen great improvement in my EQ.

I hope that someone can answer my doubts and I look forward for the longer lasting and more intense orgasms that I will be providing.

**DailyAffirmation** · 09-15-2009

jzgk, don't let PE get in the way of having sex. There was a survey done that indicated that less masturbation made for better gains, but 1) the difference in gains is so small it's not worth giving up the sex and 2) the poll data may be skewed because of such a small amount of men that did not masturbate very often (less than once a month).

I've tried going without masturbating and masturbating every day, and I've seen no change in the rate of my gains.

**jzgk** · 09-15-2009

Thanks DA So far I have not allowed that to happen because of the time difference, betwen my PE session and the actual act. Like most people in here I too believe it is about having a better sex life, and that comes with practice and improving your tools.

**atasteofchaos** · 09-16-2009

Tried this for the first time yesterday - still got a slightly larger hanging flaccid!

I have been doing a different, more basic routine for 2 months and just thought i'd try this. It really did feel like i'd worked out without overtraining as I had no negatives!

Awesome!

**ZeBizz** · 09-17-2009

Hey everyone, I'm new to these forums but am very intrigued by this routine and plan to begin it tomorrow over the suggested Beginners Routine in the guides section. Anyways my questions are : Are the supplements really worth buying while doing this routine, meaning will the results vary drastically with or without the supplements? Also, what should I focus on more during this routine and generally with PE if I want to gear more towards length gains rather than girth?

**JonPop** · 09-17-2009

The supplements are 'recommended' for overall health and well being.

The routine is designed to condition your penis for growth. Do the routine as written.
You WILL see changes. When you finish the 90 days, then you can target a specific exercise for your penis.

**Voltaire** · 09-17-2009

I am currently beginning my 3rd week of the 90-Day program. Maybe I didn't measure correctly before I started the 90 day program but I have already increased in measurements. Flaccid stay the same but noticeable girth. My erection length increased .3 of an inch while the flaccid stretch increase .7 of an inch. Is it normal for the flaccid stretch to increase that much more than the erection length? I'm really enjoying this program. I did the 5 days on 2 off. Seems to be working well, and have been doing dry jelqs instead of wet ones but I pull my jelqs to the side and up instead of downward. I'm enjoying my results, about to come off my 2 day break..