Jelqing hoax/Cause ED?

[Unit]

It's hard to believe that they gain that much, the increase in size could be completely due to swelling.
but some people say they've been doing it for months and even years, gaining anywhere from .5 to 2 inches or more! wouldn't it be painful to get an erection or to even maintain one with the swelling and scare tissue in the penis, if it really was all swelling??
yet some people even claim better EQ, so this doesn't really make much sense.

gethuge, You could swell in girth, not so much in length. By definition swelling is a inflammation process and that would be extremely difficult to maintain without pain or an infection, unless your thinking about edema. My penis, like may others, is now more flexible than ever, when flaccid. I as of yet I have never had an injury and plan to keep it that way. Nope no scare tissue. Pain is one of your first warning signs that your doing something wrong. My EQs are better and there is no pain. I started this deal hoping to get bigger and I have, but even more rewarding is that my penis health is as good as when I was eighteen, (although I no longer get erections just because the wind blows ha ha).

Don't plan on keeping any gains if you stop at one to two month unless you cement your gains, or train three months past your goal. Here is a link to cementing gains.
https://www.pegym.com/forums/penis-e...permanent.html

An inch is quite a growth. How long have you been doing it?

Also noticed you're from Utah, as am I. Living in Saint George right now but have live in SLC as well.

SLC and it's good to be back, I was in Michigan for eight years. I've only been a this about nine months, I started a month before I found this site. In my mind I thought it was going to take a couple of years to reach my goals, but I've watched my PIs closely and have not had any set backs. I've only over trained a couple of times and I'm a big fan of heat and down time. I've never felt the need to rush things since this is for me, my wife says she thinks my size is fine. Even with an inch gain, I look at people coming in to this forum with starting sizes that are my end point. Once again it's for me and I really don't have anything to prove, other than to myself.

[Pegasus]

Personaly I am quite content for pe to remain an underground thing. I will help those that enter and shrug at those who don't. Your self image issues may have bought you here ,but not wishfull thinking unless you don't do it.

[UYN]

I have been here a bit over 1 year, gains are in my signature. I have pictures as well, but they are limited to my profile friends.

-UYN-

[somebodyelse]

Personaly I am quite content for pe to remain an underground thing. I will help those that enter and shrug at those who don't. Your self image issues may have bought you here ,but not wishfull thinking unless you don't do it.

exactly! Someone once said, "Don't throw your pearls before swine. They'll trample them, then turn and tear you to pieces."

don't shower good information and knowledge, wisdom and experience on someone who doesn't want to hear it, or will find every facet of explanation to refute it. Just let them think what they want to think

I'm perfectly fine with it being considered silly and taboo, and that it doesn't work. That way everybody else can remain their natural size. Less competition for me and far more possible to leave a lasting impression on a girl who's only been with "Average or below average" guys

my log is named "May as Well, Right?" for a reason. Nothing to lose really...

[teth87]

exactly! Someone once said, "Don't throw your pearls before swine. They'll trample them, then turn and tear you to pieces."

don't shower good information and knowledge, wisdom and experience on someone who doesn't want to hear it, or will find every facet of explanation to refute it. Just let them think what they want to think

I'm perfectly fine with it being considered silly and taboo, and that it doesn't work. That way everybody else can remain their natural size. Less competition for me and far more possible to leave a lasting impression on a girl who's only been with "Average or below average" guys

my log is named "May as Well, Right?" for a reason. Nothing to lose really...

I agree completely. Many people come here for a desire to be larger than "average". If PE became an extremely well known practice then this "average" would most likely increase and for many guys this isn't something they necessarily want. Perhaps a little selfish but I suppose you can understand that. :P

It's best I feel, for people to find this website or similar on their own accord, and once here they can read and learn all the great information before putting it all to practice. It's great there are so many people here already who have had success with PE and are willing to share their experience. However, let that information be for those who wish to try it for themselves using discipline and dedication, instead of it being a mainstream phenomenon where everybody is doing it.

[Hockey_NY]

Personaly I am quite content for pe to remain an underground thing. I will help those that enter and shrug at those who don't. Your self image issues may have bought you here ,but not wishfull thinking unless you don't do it.

Yup...I think it is what separates the real guys who really want to improve compared to the pretenders looking for an easy way. Let it stay underground. Those who really want to improve will go ahead and find the answers and work at it the right way.

[Big Al]

...and self image issues...

The other posts in this thread are addressing your other issues, so I'll concentrate on this.

Why would the desire to do PE be considered a "self image issue"? What if someone wants to lose weight, build muscle size, and/or improve their performance is it not considered a "self image issue"? What about people that go for what they consider to be "corrective" surgeries- do they have these issues too? Why would you put something that can maximize your size and performance with no medical intervention considered in such a negative light?

What is your purpose here- is it to troll, to insult, or to learn?

Do you truly believe that self improvement = having issues? If so, that sure is a convenient excuse for mediocrity.

[ErictheGed]

Guys you mean this stuff actually worked for you? Here i've just been talking shit the whole time!

No seriously, theres guys here who have been members for years. And guys who have 10+ years in the game. Who in their right mind would waste a decade of their life posting lies on websites every day? That is just laughable!

[CharlesBukowski]

The other posts in this thread are addressing your other issues, so I'll concentrate on this.

Why would the desire to do PE be considered a "self image issue"? What if someone wants to lose weight, build muscle size, and/or improve their performance is it not considered a "self image issue"? What about people that go for what they consider to be "corrective" surgeries- do they have these issues too? Why would you put something that can maximize your size and performance with no medical intervention considered in such a negative light?

What is your purpose here- is it to troll, to insult, or to learn?

Do you truly believe that self improvement = having issues? If so, that sure is a convenient excuse for mediocrity.

I'm not going to argue any more or talk down on PE. I've found some of the info I was looking for. To address the "self image issue" I believe I said I see how it "appeals" to people with self image issues. Self improvement is not an improvement if you are damaging your body or self in some way. Starving yourself to lose weight is not an improvement.. Taking steroids to gain muscle mass is not an improvement, nor is over exercising to the point of damage. Taking extenze is not an improvement, it is a scam. I'm not saying PE is a scam but I had questions. If my question were received in a negative light maybe they are important questions that the community should strive to answer so that they can be answered with a positive response. If you can't prove that it works and we're seeing a lot of threads with damage then maybe PE is more on the "taking Steroids" or on the "extenze" side of the coin rather than the "healthy exercise" side of the coin.

I would say that someone who wants to lose weight most definitely has body image issues. Someone wanting to build muscle mass could be a number of things, body issue being one, physical strength another, it all depends. Improving performance is a different category all together as improving performance is not based on the image of ones self but the performance.

For anybody with similar questions as myself; I found this thread to be rather informative.

https://www.pegym.com/forums/progres...ics-proof.html

[Big Al]

I'm not going to argue any more or talk down on PE. I've found some of the info I was looking for. To address the "self image issue" I believe I said I see how it "appeals" to people with self image issues. Self improvement is not an improvement if you are damaging your body or self in some way.

I think we can agree on that

Starving yourself to lose weight is not an improvement.. Taking steroids to gain muscle mass is not an improvement, nor is over exercising to the point of damage. Taking extenze is not an improvement, it is a scam. I'm not saying PE is a scam but I had questions. If my question were received in a negative light maybe they are important questions that the community should strive to answer so that they can be answered with a positive response. If you can't prove that it works and we're seeing a lot of threads with damage then maybe PE is more on the "taking Steroids" or on the "extenze" side of the coin rather than the "healthy exercise" side of the coin.

You must admit that your initial post came across as very condescending. You cannot come onto an established PE forum and throw around certain negative overused KEYWORDS and expect happy little replies

As you discovered with the Saiyan22 thread, this forum is full of many answers- they just need to be searched for. There are also some very good pinned threads that should lead to answers too. Some thorough searching on your part from the beginning would have avoided this current scenario, but let's do our best to move past that.

I would say that someone who wants to lose weight most definitely has body image issues. Someone wanting to build muscle mass could be a number of things, body issue being one, physical strength another, it all depends. Improving performance is a different category all together as improving performance is not based on the image of ones self but the performance.

Even superficial improvement doesn't have to be a "bad" thing. You may be surprised to learn that quite a good percentage of the men on this forum started with average or above average penis sizes.

For anybody with similar questions as myself; I found this thread to be rather informative.

https://www.pegym.com/forums/progres...ics-proof.html

That is a great thread it's just one of many that you'll find here and on other forums. Here's another post that should help: https://www.pegym.com/forums/beginne...html#post69183