vjelqs at low erection level causing discomfort

[KungFuJoe Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close KungFuJoe]

I have no problem with regular wet jelqs. I can maintain a pretty good erection level (60-80%) throughout a set of 50 (or 100 if you count each stroke). vjelqs, however, are a different story. Not only can I not maintain an erection level above 60-70% for longer than 8 or 9 reps, when I drop below 60%, discomfort starts to set in. It starts with a tingly feeling in the base of my penis and scrotum area and eventually spreads. vjelqing at higher erection levels do not cause any discomfort, but because I can't maintain an erection like I can with regular jelqing, it becomes very tough to finish a set of vjelqs. Worse, after I'm done with the vjelqing, the discomfort lingers and makes it hard to complete my next set of regular jelqs and slowly just gets worse. Today it was so bad, I only managed to get one and a half sets of regular jelqs (75) and one set of vjelqs (30).

As for pressure, it doesn't seem to matter how much or how little pressure I put when I vjelq. I mean, unless I actually try to spread my fingers apart as a stroke, I'm going to feel discomfort when my erection level drops. It's like my skin is being pulled upwards or something.

What I'm wondering is...since the vjelqs affect the rest of my workout, would it be ok to just do all 3 sets of wet jelqs first, then try to do as many vjelqs as I can before the discomfort sets in?

Or is there something I'm doing wrong with the vjelq? I'm not squeezing my fingers at all as I pull up...at least not that I can tell. And doing them with a higher erection level feels perfectly fine. It's maintaining that high level that is the hard part.

[Hanma Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Hanma]

1) It's a v-jelq so some of the blood is going to slip down.
2) Grab your turkey neck so it prevents your skin being pulled up.
3) As you slide your hands up make sure your stimulate your glans or frenulum with your palms. It helps me.

[KungFuJoe Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close KungFuJoe]

I don't believe it's from skin being pulled, but I can give that a shot.

But I guess the question I still have is...if the vjelqs still bug me at a low erection level and affect my regular jelqing...is it ok to just get all the regular jelqs out of the way first and then just concentrate on vjelqs...or is it very important that the wet and v jelqs be alternated as depicted in jp90's routine?

[hawkua Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close hawkua]

I don't believe it's from skin being pulled, but I can give that a shot.

It is for guys that have a turkey(cut) I could not pull my skin down I uncut

[KungFuJoe Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close KungFuJoe]

I'll give the pulling of the skin a shot...but for now, I'm going to do all my wet jelqing first then work on vjelqing last. Mainly so it doesn't interfere with my wet jelqing and also so I can fully concentrate on how my vjelqs are going rather than having to stop after 30 and go back to wet jelqing.

[KungFuJoe Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close KungFuJoe]

Update on this. Vjelqs are just getting worse. Discomfort sets in very fast if I do them at anything less than 80% erect. I tried the pulling back of the skin and it made my entire under crotch area go pins and needles on me. I was actually scared so I stopped completely. There must be some kind of nerve that I'm hitting.

For now I'm doing 200 wet jelqs in a row, then I have to whip out the porn, get erect, then do as many vjelqs as I can with a pretty decent erection always keeping it between 70-90%. Then I call it a day.

[SuperDude Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close SuperDude]

I would just cut out the V jelqs totally. Me personally, I prefer wet jelqs over V jelqs by far. Does anyone know what is the main difference between them, as far as what they target and train?

[rbi99 Retired Moderator Member of the Month Nov 2017PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close rbi99]

If your finger tip(s) are riding up your CS when doing wet jelqs, that maximizes CS gain. At the same time wet jelqs if the grip is firm enough also target your CC's. In my opinion V's basically only hit your CC's, and ineffectively at that. The reason V's are less effective is because so much blood escapes due to the fact you have open areas left ungripped when doing them. Also, you can grip substantially stronger with an ok grip then when you try squeezing two fingers together using on the strength of those two fingers. While some have said the webbing of their fingers ride their CS when doing V's, that force is exceedingly less then the force applied by your finger tip(s) when doing regular wet jelqs.

I am a firm believer that once you start doing regular jelqs or V's, you should do them as one long set, not broken up into smaller sets alternating between regulars and V's. My reasoning is that doing one long set increases the inner temp of your shaft a little bit, and you should use that to your advantage. Switching between the two exercises allows areas to cool down since they aren't being targeted as much.

I have thought about and worked on improving both regular and V's, and this is what I have come up with:
https://www.pegym.com/forums/penis-e...e-jelq-uj.html
https://www.pegym.com/forums/penis-e...te-vs-uvs.html
https://www.pegym.com/forums/penis-e...uv-thread.html
https://www.pegym.com/forums/penis-e...skin-pull.html
https://www.pegym.com/forums/beginne...ing-tests.html

[SuperDude Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close SuperDude]

If your finger tip(s) are riding up your CS when doing wet jelqs, that maximizes CS gain. At the same time wet jelqs if the grip is firm enough also target your CC's. In my opinion V's basically only hit your CC's, and ineffectively at that. The reason V's are less effective is because so much blood escapes due to the fact you have open areas left ungripped when doing them. Also, you can grip substantially stronger with an ok grip then when you try squeezing two fingers together using on the strength of those two fingers. While some have said the webbing of their fingers ride their CS when doing V's, that force is exceedingly less then the force applied by your finger tip(s) when doing regular wet jelqs.

I am a firm believer that once you start doing regular jelqs or V's, you should do them as one long set, not broken up into smaller sets alternating between regulars and V's. My reasoning is that doing one long set increases the inner temp of your shaft a little bit, and you should use that to your advantage. Switching between the two exercises allows areas to cool down since they aren't being targeted as much.

I have thought about and worked on improving both regular and V's, and this is what I have come up with:
https://www.pegym.com/forums/penis-e...e-jelq-uj.html
https://www.pegym.com/forums/penis-e...te-vs-uvs.html
https://www.pegym.com/forums/penis-e...uv-thread.html
https://www.pegym.com/forums/penis-e...skin-pull.html
https://www.pegym.com/forums/beginne...ing-tests.html

Great post. So what is the purpose of V jelqs, why would one do them over wet jelqs?

[rbi99 Retired Moderator Member of the Month Nov 2017PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close rbi99]

Great post. So what is the purpose of V jelqs, why would one do them over wet jelqs?

Some guys swear by them, I just happen to not be one of them. I only do UJ's now, but UV's will kick the hell out of that bad boy, and they are effective. I just don't feel that regular V's are worth the time or effort.

[KungFuJoe Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close KungFuJoe]

What do you think about this routine based off JP's? I have been doing PE for about 2 months, btw..

Warmup - 10 min
Stretches - One time out, left, up, right, down - one min each, followed by circular stretches and helis
Wet jelqs - 150 reps (all in one set, one rep is TWO strokes)
vjelqs - 30 reps at 80% erection level (one rep is THREE strokes, left, straight, right)

Few questions I had...since i'm relatively new (only two months in) do you think I've built up enough to be able to do vjelqs at 80% erection level? I have done these and they are actually comfortable at this level (no negative PIs). Or am I risking injury?
Assuming I'm not able to do the required amount of vjelqs (going off of JP's program) should I eliminate them completely and do more wet jelqs (maybe 200-250)?

[rbi99 Retired Moderator Member of the Month Nov 2017PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close rbi99]

You have been doing them that way and have had positive indicators, so there is no reason to lessen or change at this point in your PE career. Try a couple of UV's and see how you like them - at 60% erection level or so.