well its not hard but...

**Moonstrike** · 01-20-2009

i wouldn't categorize my flaccid penis as hard but its definately been getting firmer ever since i started jelqing for real, should i maybe take some time off?

**kingpole** · 01-20-2009

Originally Posted by Moonstrike

i wouldn't categorize my flaccid penis as hard but its definately been getting firmer ever since i started jelqing for real, should i maybe take some time off?

I would take a few days off. when you return to PE use a softer grip and go slower.

**Moonstrike** · 01-20-2009

will do, thanks for the reply.

**Cernunnos** · 01-20-2009

Originally Posted by Moonstrike

will do, thanks for the reply.

How are your PI's? If your erections are weaker, that's the bottom line.

**Moonstrike** · 01-21-2009

not sure what PI's are, but my erection quality is fine. long and hard.

**deepsquat** · 01-23-2009

i thought increased flaccid size is a positive PI???

**scientificapproach** · 01-23-2009

deepsquat...a fuller and "looser" flaccid hang is usually considered a positive PI yes, but a smaller more turtled flaccid with a harder core can be a negative PI and I believe this is what moonstrike is stating?!

**deepsquat** · 01-23-2009

Oh, OK, I see. Thanks for clearing that up for me scientificapproach

**scientificapproach** · 01-23-2009

Originally Posted by deepsquat

Oh, OK, I see. Thanks for clearing that up for me scientificapproach

Your welcome

Its not a commonly mentioned negative PI the harder flaccid core, but I think Kingpole is the expert on its discovery, I think I have experienced it too, its kinda of an ultra turtled state!