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Thread: stretching: does it even work?
- 05-08-2009 #1
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All of the below refers to basic/JAI stretches (reason being is because according to the pegym.com guide other stretches are for a later time period and im deciding to play it safe and not try them yet)
They seem so ineffective to me. I know that theyre supposed to be a light exercise but i just dont feel theyre doing anything to my gains. I probably gained about .2 in in length over the course of 2.25 monthsm, but i feel i should attribute that to my jelqs/jelqing style.
So the bottom line is, do basic/JAI stretches even have ANY effect on my penis at all? I mean the concept itself if i REALLY think about it is kinda lame too.
FE: Stretching the penis is basically stretching a muscle correct (referring to the many people who say that the penis does contain muscles)? Well if the muscles are muscles then how come when people stretch to warm up for, say, a soccer game do not end up with grossly proportioned legs (as a soccer player i know that we do alot of heavy stretching before practice/games)?
I know some people may say that "its because we have bones in our legs vs. none in the penis". BUT, muscle sags. Even if there was bone limiting leg growth why dont we all gain huge amounts of sagging calf muscles?
When i look at stretching that way i feel that the penis stretches are little more than a prep exercise. Maybe theres a factor im overlooking as to WHY we do stretches. Anyone care to elaborate and help me out here please?
- 05-08-2009 #2
trex, trex, trex. Tssk tsk.
I give credit to the Jai for a lot of my length gains. The penis texture, if you will, changes from soft to hard, stretchy to tight, etc... The point is at complete flaccidity it's at a certain number consistently if you're in a positive mood. Well the idea is to stretch it just a little above its flaccid length and over time the stretched length becomes to the new flaccid length.
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MYTH: The penis is not a muscle.
FACT: The penis is approximately 50 percent smooth muscle.
“There aren’t any penis-building exercises for men because the penis isn’t a muscle,” argues author Rachel Swift in Satisfaction Guaranteed. Although this is accepted as conventional wisdom by most, it’s actually a myth. The penis is roughly half muscle.
This myth has survived for so long because the muscle within the penis isn’t your traditional muscle, like your biceps. There are three kinds of muscle: skeletal muscle, which are the muscles you exercise when you go to the gym; cardiac muscle, which is your heart; and smooth muscle, which is found in organs and blood vessels. The penis largely consists of smooth muscle.
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- 05-08-2009 #3
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I felt the same way, then I started stretching harder and for longer amounts of time (without tugging) and within a 2 or 3 weeks my flaccid was about an inch longer. It helps a lot if your ligaments are tight, I also believe it loosens and opens up the tissue allowing the jelq to be more effective. No matter what the reason is, I believe it's vital to your routine.
- 05-08-2009 #4
I went from a under 2" flaccid to 6" from doing JAI'S.
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- 05-08-2009 #5
Trex, like you, I'm just getting started, but in 3 weeks my flaccid is over one and half inches longer. I'm thinking this is a miracle! What will it be at 3 months . . . or at three years?!?! Woohoo!
- 05-09-2009 #6
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Let me begin by telling you a little bit about myself. I am a personal trainer and I've been a fitness/gym enthusiast and pseudo-bodybuilder for years. I know for a fact that any and all good workouts begin with a warm-up and some light stretching. It allows for blood to flow to specified areas, increase heart rate, and loosen the muscles and tendons (and ligaments, in this scenario) to prepare them for some hard work!
Apply this principle to your stretches. I do. Simply think of it as a prerequisite to a good workout instead of a technique for making gains. No one denies jelqs, but think of the jelq as a heavy set. You don't want to dive into a rigorous lift before you do some stretches.
The point I'm trying to make is: keep stretching. If not for gains, don't doubt that it aids in the effectiveness of the jelqs you do afterward. This should, if you doubt the integrity of the stretch, at least give you a good reason why they are still beneficial.
Hope this is somewhat helpful. Obviously no one will continue doing something that is seemingly ineffective, so hopefully you can apply the stretching a muscle theory prior to a workout to your stretching prior to jelqs.
- 05-09-2009 #7
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I give credit to the Jai for a lot of my length gains.
Out of a scale of 1-10 i pull at about a 3 when JAIing. Hold that for about 1.5-2 secs. Release for 1 second and repeat. Is there something wrong with my routine or do JAI's just take awhile to show results?
I WILL admit that my flaccid is a tad longer and a bit fatter than when i first started but i always attributed that to Jelqs.
As for basic stretches maybe im not pulling hard enough then. I pull at about a power of 6-7. I try not to go too high because i always think that i will pull my poor buddy off of my pelvis.
It helps a lot if your ligaments are tight, I also believe it loosens and opens up the tissue allowing the jelq to be more effective.
- 05-09-2009 #8
You should always warmup!
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- 05-10-2009 #9
I've been at it for two months and my flaccid is fatter and has grown an inch in length. I can't prove that jelqs alone wouldn't have caused the gain, but if you're gaining, why stop stretching? At the very least, it gets blood flowing and loosens up your tissues.
- 05-10-2009 #10
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I am happy to report that even though I haven't been by the gym in a while I have kept with my routine and have gone from a 4.5 to a 5 inch BPEL and my flacid hang is about half an inch longer as well. I'm only mentioning this because my routine has consisted entirely of stretches as I haven't had the real estate to do jelqing very well.
The only thing in my workout that isn't a stretch are flacid bends and those are a girth excersize if memory serves me correctly.
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