"Fuck the warm-up"

[remek Founder Find all posts View Profile Close remek]

Many new guys, including myself when I was new, say all-to-hell with the warm-up. If this is you, I urge you to rethink your thinking. A warm-up is more beneficial than the actual exercises you are doing. I repeat, a warm-up is more important than the exercises.

Why?

For the evidence, I will refer to the original PE survey. As many of you may recall, my first analysis of the "warm-up" question pointed to the opposite of what I am stating now. It showed that overall, those who used a warm-up "most of the time" or "always," didn't gain more than those who "rarely" or "never" used a warm-up...

I was never really satisfied with this conclusion. However, facts are facts.... Flash forward a few months: I begin thinking that a warm-up might just be more beneficial for beginners than the average veteran.

Why?

Well, because we all know that the beginners are less conditioned than the veterans. Perhaps using heat on a pre-conditioned penis causes for more elasticity than a conditioned one. This I am not positive about. However, I am positive of the results:


For my second warm-up analysis I used men who had been PEing for 2 months or less. In other words, I used newbies -- or as I like to call you guys, beginners.

The results:
The beginners that used a warm-up Always or Most of the time gained exactly 2 cubic inches (that's in volume).

The beginners that used a warm-up Never or Rarely gained exactly .82 cubic inches (that's in volume).

Conclusion

The conclusion is very clear. On average, the beginners that used a warm-up gained more than 2 times as much (closer to 3 times) than those that did not use a warm-up.

TAKE HOME MESSAGE for the beginners: The 5-10 minutes you will spend on a warm-up, could be much more important than the 5-10 minutes of extra stretching and jelqing you might get by skipping it.

[remek Founder Find all posts View Profile Close remek]

More on a warm-up...

This was my experience with a warm-up when I was a beginner:

I would typically do a warm-up every once in a while. I religiously did it for the first week or two, but after that, using a warm-up was scarecly in my routine. However, when I did do the warm-up, I noticed a few things.

My penis was always more "elastic." I never measured my BPFSL, but if I did, it would have been longer after using a warm-up. It seemed much more like a rubber band, and much more responsive to the stress I was applying on it. This right here was evidence enough for me.

This right here should be the true test for you. Is a warm-up making your penis more elastic? Even a little? (In this type of exercising, every bit counts.) If you answered yes, then I stick with my suggestion: Use a warm-up.

My guess is that sooner or later, for the veterans, a warm-up begins to become less effective... This line of thinking may be completely off the wall, but it is what I believe. I think once you reach a certain point (after the first two months), the penis becomes less responsive to the warm-up. Thus, it results in less elasticity than normal. Sometime in your career it might produce no extra elasticity. In this case, I would suggest taking a break from the warm-up for a few weeks, and then returning for a week or two -- hopefully adding a nice extra "pop" in your gains.

[lilbigguy Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close lilbigguy]

VERY GOOD INFORMATION, remek.

I too notice a big difference on the days that I use a warm-up... this was even more apparenet in the beginning.

[remek Founder Find all posts View Profile Close remek]

lilbigguy,

Yes, I think the warm-up is momnumental in the beginning. Towards the end it might be a little different. However, during the earlier stages of PE, it allows the penis to adapt much easier without those nasty side effects.

[Toddi Member Find all posts View Profile Close Toddi]

When I warm up it's perhaps just as much as a metal warm up, as it's a phsycal. But I feel I get more out of the work out, when i have warmed up, then when i haven't. But that's maybe just a metal thing. (:

[remek Founder Find all posts View Profile Close remek]

Toddi,

I think you mean *mental* And, to be honest, I know what you mean. . . A good warm-up can really get you psyched for PE.

[Toddi Member Find all posts View Profile Close Toddi]

Haha!

- Sorry for that one. (: Shall try to read me post better through.

[legato Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close legato]

I actually found something else that was beneficial. During my first two and a half weeks of PE, I found that often with warm-ups I'd have less trouble getting 70-90% erection during jelqing as opposed to no warmup.

[Toddi Member Find all posts View Profile Close Toddi]

Me too ! :P

I couldn't really get any erect one time I didn't warm up. s:

[remek Founder Find all posts View Profile Close remek]

legato and Toddi,

Good info. I've never had that problem, so I didn't know. . . Regardless, all the more reason to warm-up.

[Lazy 8 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Lazy 8]

My guess is that sooner or later, for the veterans, a warm-up begins to become less effective... This line of thinking may be completely off the wall, but it is what I believe. I think once you reach a certain point (after the first two months), the penis becomes less responsive to the warm-up. Thus, it results in less elasticity than normal. Sometime in your career it might produce no extra elasticity. In this case, I would suggest taking a break from the warm-up for a few weeks, and then returning for a week or two -- hopefully adding a nice extra "pop" in your gains.

Remek, have you ever had your hypothesis confirmed about veteran PE'ers not benefiting from warm-ups? Or is it still possible your thinking "is completely off the wall"? I'll be hitting 90 days soon and while I like warming up as part of the routine, being able to skip it would be helpful some times when I can't get in the full routine. Is it possible warm-ups are more important for stretching than for jelqing?

[C.Phantasy Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close C.Phantasy]

Warmup will always be the best option(and the one that works for every1) for adding gains in both Lenght & Girth.
Good material to read is the "Etp Theory"!

When it comes to warmup there are some factors we can tweak for more elastic tissue:
-Higher Temperature
-Longer time in the water (h20 makes the tissue more elastic)
-Edge before Warmup.

With these in mind,do your warmup and you shall have all the gains you could ever want!

[AP875 Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close AP875]

how long was this done for?
for the people to gain 2 cubic inches?

[nopeman Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close nopeman]

yeah warm up is a good thing to do but is cooling down still equal to warming up??
thanks.

[PhibbysHammer Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close PhibbysHammer]

Great Posts Remek.....................I believe there is "MAGIC" in the Heat