Hi... I have serious questions...

[Cernunnos]

I guess I'll have to take a stab.

That's the spirit!

As much as it's good to be sceptical to a certain degree of what you hear people say online, there is a point where you must see that everyone is not suffering from mass hysteria. Maybe PE doesn't work for everyone, maybe some people will only make minimal gains, but we can only know what our personal experience tells us, and mine is that a careful, slow, PE program does wonders for the EQ, and will even make your penis grow if you have the motivation and if you do it properly and don't be impatient.

Everyone here had to make that first leap of faith and decide to actually try it for themselves. I was dubious too when I found my first PE site, Thunder's Place, but I decided to go ahead with it because it is very unlikely that all of those smart, friendly people are lying ... for free! No way, people have better things to do with their time. Now I know it works, and you can throw what other people on the web said about PE at us, and we can tell you why we think it's wrong, or true, or kinda wrong and kinda true, but at the end of the day it's just "he-said-she-said", right?

You have to try it for yourself, end of story.

Cheers!

[Big Al]

Doesn't that still put a defect on erection stability the same way cutting it would?

No, not as long as you're allowing the tunica to heal. Check out the entry on this forum (and in the post I recommended to you) on Davis' Law.

That has to be it. Although considering, should I start off the same way as anyone else would or take more of a timid approach?

Unless you feel you have a lasting physical defect you can start off like everyone else. Take your time and don't be in a rush to try any advanced moves just yet, and remember to round out your routine with stamina work.

It's commendable to be skeptical, but just like you're doing here it's just as important to ask questions from the "experts" (i.e.- Dr. Alice, etc.) when they posit responses without any data- or worse yet, with skewed data.

Experimentation is part of the scientific method, and coming to a conclusion about something without doing any experimenting is bad science. Remember, since the beginning of time many "experts" have based premises on theories that were supposed to have proven things to be an impossibility- breaking the sound barrier, the 4 minute mile, the Earth being round, and so on. Had people listened to them and not experimented human advancement would not be where it is today.

Here's some more recommended reading for you: How to Kill a Myth: One Step at a Time | Aaron Kemmer & Labor of Man ; and be sure to check out the article from Dr. Howard on that site too

[Big Al]

Everyone here had to make that first leap of faith and decide to actually try it for themselves. I was dubious too when I found my first PE site, Thunder's Place, but I decided to go ahead with it because it is very unlikely that all of those smart, friendly people are lying ... for free! No way, people have better things to do with their time. Now I know it works, and you can throw what other people on the web said about PE at us, and we can tell you why we think it's wrong, or true, or kinda wrong and kinda true, but at the end of the day it's just "he-said-she-said", right?

You have to try it for yourself, end of story.

Cheers!

Excellent post!

[Progresser]

This was a very enlightening conversation. I'm new as of today and after reading this thread, I'm now willing to take a leap of faith and give this a try as well. Thanks.

[PhibbysHammer]

Welcome Progressor and thanks for not letting some of my comments keep you away. I love my PE and what it has done for me and I want everyone to share in it. Its changed my whole outlook on life. It's Amazing what an inch here or there can do for one's ego and esteem.

Following up on my earlier post..............I don't mind questions and even encourage them, but to play the role of spoiler and use baseless, factless arguments to somehow dispell and discredit the validity of what we do here upsets me. I started with a 6x5 unit and now in 3 months its closer to 7x6 so I KNOW beyond any shadow of doubt it works. I appologize if I seemed very aggressive and attacking but I was upset. Our forum is open to anyone and everyone interested in self improvement and I in no way would prevent or block any from access to the wonderful information available here.

[Cernunnos]

No, not as long as you're allowing the tunica to heal. Check out the entry on this forum (and in the post I recommended to you) on Davis' Law.



Unless you feel you have a lasting physical defect you can start off like everyone else. Take your time and don't be in a rush to try any advanced moves just yet, and remember to round out your routine with stamina work.

It's commendable to be skeptical, but just like you're doing here it's just as important to ask questions from the "experts" (i.e.- Dr. Alice, etc.) when they posit responses without any data- or worse yet, with skewed data.

Experimentation is part of the scientific method, and coming to a conclusion about something without doing any experimenting is bad science. Remember, since the beginning of time many "experts" have based premises on theories that were supposed to have proven things to be an impossibility- breaking the sound barrier, the 4 minute mile, the Earth being round, and so on. Had people listened to them and not experimented human advancement would not be where it is today.

Here's some more recommended reading for you: How to Kill a Myth: One Step at a Time | Aaron Kemmer & Labor of Man ; and be sure to check out the article from Dr. Howard on that site too

Same to you, Big Al! Excellent post.

[Big Al]

Same to you, Big Al! Excellent post.

Thank you

[pe2damax]

To add to that, doctors have to be skeptical. As they see it, as long as your penis functions as a penis there is no problem. PE can be harmful if done improperly so they don't want to be telling someone to do it because it works and then get sued because the person broke his dick doing it improperly. That's why they say things like it CAN work but stress more on the dangers and make it sound like self mutilation. So, I'm sure many doctors believe it works, but they are still not going to recommend it.

[Noobgun]

I think some of the most important aspects of PE are as follows. Dedication, confidence and belief. Trust your body can be better and it will! I dropped out after my injury and wish I had not. My short time back has resulted in a much more confident me and great EQ. Take the 90 day dedicated challenge. Let us know how it goes.

GL there is a great support group here to help you.