Hey I need some advice

[PE dannyboy]

big al and jon pop.. both of you are very experienced PErs.. see i knew that before i even joined this site.. I wrote a thread introducing myself which is not what i did i kind of explained what my routines were and so on and so forth but here i just need advice on the proper jelqing i need to do.. Basically i use the power jelqer to jelq so i would say its working my smooth muscle more than my chambers but eventually the blood will move on in there and fill the whole penis i think.. Well here is the advice i need.. My penis gets plumped from about 5 minutes of power jelqing.. sometimes i actually keep goin to a point were the penis does not respond to jelqing and goes totally flaccid and it seems like i never jelqed in the first place.. im assuming ive overtrained so i will take this precaution.. as i said in my previous thread that if i jelq for 10 min it is a very good time to just jump in the pump afterwords to solicify the gains after jelqing. For a while ive been jelqing for 5 then pumping for 10-15 by the way i do 3 of those sessions for pumping.. but after my first session i jelq for 5 then pump for 10-15 then so on and so forth.. im starting to understand why that is too much for my penis as described in my first thread.. You guys think i should start 10 min jelq then pump and stop jelqing after i pump?

[JonPop]

I thiink you need to sssstreeeetch.

[PE dannyboy]

I thiink you need to sssstreeeetch.

sounds good jon so since my l.o.t is 12 i should hang or stretch straight down against the tug right? You think i should get the bib hanger? problem is they come in different packages and ive never hanged before but my penis is conditioned since ive had stretching devices and stuff..

[pe_ZEN]

lucky you with LOT of 12:00 - you've got some gains waiting under you belt, if you stretch properly

[pe_ZEN]

b.t.w. I also pump before and after my PE sessions, but i never pump more than 2x times per day. Already with one 20min pump session, 20min Jelq, 20min stretch, 15min pump - I am worked after that and enjoy a rubdown with some nice moisturizing cream :P

[JonPop]

sounds good jon so since my l.o.t is 12 i should hang or stretch straight down against the tug right? You think i should get the bib hanger? problem is they come in different packages and ive never hanged before but my penis is conditioned since ive had stretching devices and stuff..

I use and recommend the "BIB Starter". Ask W.M.P. he just got one.

[PE dannyboy]

Whats up fellas.. sorry i havent been on lately i have still been healing since 2 weeks ago when i stopped for a decon break due to my penis not responding while jelqing.. it just went flaccid so wut i took a break and ever since i have been examing it on a day by day basis putting on heat pad and maintaining it warm. Well the outcome has been good since i had vein leaks due to my skin turning purple atleast i think thats the proper term for a " leak" the point is that around the veins its a puddle of purple.. could be bruising? i dunno but that has reduced these past two weeks and my skin is clearing up and also ive noticed ive gotten thicker. Based on a few theories ive been reading here it says that the smooth muscle must catch up with the tunica to insure even growth and lately i have been noticing that my tunica bone has been sticking out more and it basically pops up out of the skin pretty well so im assuming since ive been jelqing and pumping the majority of the time, i think that i have overworked the smooth muscle which has lead to the decon break but the break is paying off i think.. well i hope. Lately ive just been putting on the autoxsleeve and it has thickened it each time i took it off. But basically that is intended mostly for the tunica but it does help with girth too so it puts pressure to the smooth muscle but not as much as the tunica.. therefore i have been resting the smooth muscle id say 85-100 percent these past two weeks with the autoxsleeve on. Just giving you guys some detailed info so maybe i can get a few more tips.. I dont write down my results but my bpel seems a bit bigger kind of but when i stand up its different or feels different but nearly the same size.. I have noticed bpfl seems thicker as well.. but mostly these two weeks i have seen girth results mostly.. length not so much since i have not been hitting the tunica and ligaments but i will start to when i get a hanger

[PE dannyboy]

b.t.w. I also pump before and after my PE sessions, but i never pump more than 2x times per day. Already with one 20min pump session, 20min Jelq, 20min stretch, 15min pump - I am worked after that and enjoy a rubdown with some nice moisturizing cream :P

Thats a good session man.. do you do 2 days on 1 off?

[PE dannyboy]

I use and recommend the "BIB Starter". Ask W.M.P. he just got one.

Sounds good jon.. Do you know a good excersise that i can do for erect length standing up without any bone pressure so it can stick out more without putting the effort? Erect jelqs? But that would work the smooth muscle more im guessing.. I guess you were right maybe stretching would be the key

[PE dannyboy]

Just bumpin lookin for some advice