Quick results! Looking for advice for the next 6 months' exercises.

[Zekest Member Find all posts View Profile Close Zekest]

My situation:
Note: All measures are BPEL.

Hello! I've been lurking this website for a lot of time, and tried PE many times, don't getting any real result further than a higher EQ.

Recently, I began to get laid frequently with a girl that after became my girlfriend. I've always been very sexually active, but now it's much more, and I needed the hand of PE for my natural low EQ and minor ED problems (which I hate having being just a 22 year boy).

Today I begin my 4th week continously (two rest days per week) PE'ing doing a 10-15 min jelq routine and 2 stretch series. My dick has growth from ~19.7 cm max length, to ~20.4 cm that I measured last week. I've algo got some girth, a very little (maybe only because of the better EQ), but I also notice it. And well, yesterday my gf noticed the increased length for first time "oh it's VERY deep inside", dat feel).

Ok, well, here it comes the important thingy... Now that I begin a new month, I wanna raise a little the intensity of the exercises. Not a lot, because this seems to be still working good, but I just don't wanna get stuck in my gains. So I'm looking for some advice on how to continue evolving my own PE routine.

My objectives::

- Length trimester: Reaching 21 / 21.5 cm at the finnish of the first trimester of PE.
- Girth & Flaccid trimester: Getting 1 / 1,5 cm of girth in the summer's trimester, and increasing flaccid hang.
- General improvement: Getting an extra centimeter of length and half centimeter of girth in the last trimester of the year.
- More girth next year!: Next year will be mostly focused on girth, flaccid hang and getting an extra half centimeter.

Watching the polls, I've seen that it's not difficult for many men to gain "one to two inches (from 2,5 to 5 cm) in the first three months", so these objectives don't seem unrealistic if following the PE routine daily and perfectly.


My questions:

- How can I lightly improve my current length-orientated routine for this upcoming month?
- Minding that I will focus hard on the routine and improve it, are my objectives unrealistic? Or should I even think on higher objectives?
- What exercises you recommend for flaccid hang? Should I add them to my length routine?
- What exercises are better and what worse for EQ?
- Is it bad to have sex 1-2h after PE?
- How many kegels should I do for improving my EQ and eyaculation control, without entering in the overtraining zone (I just prefer not needing to do reverse kegels).


Thank you in advance, guys! I'll be posting my advances after some time. Good luck with your gains too

[finlandia Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close finlandia]

Remember PE is a Marathon not a Sprint! For most it takes a consistent routine over 1-2 years to get 1-2 inch gains, some faster then others. If you stay consistent and just work on your EQ gains will come. You are still in the early stage of your Conditioning phase 4 weeks in. First 2-3 months you are just learning and experimenting with different routines and how your body responds. Congrats on your early gains!

[BigO AdministratorPEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close BigO]

Welcome Zekest, and congratulations on your gains!

The best thing to do right now is exactly what you are doing. If it's working that well and you're noticing results, changing anything up or down may do exactly what you don't want - stop gains.

When gains stop for a while, then it may be time to look at changing things. For now, just enjoy the success.

Have a look at the Mental PE thread in my signature. It may help with some of those ideas going forward.

Good luck, with your PE, and new relationship!

[MrB8 Senior Member Member of the Month Nov 2013 Find all posts View Profile Close MrB8]

to the Gym!


Don't miss this thread!!!

Mental PE - Creating The Right Mindset

And if you haven't already done so, check the links on the navigation bar at the top of the page especially the START HERE Thread and focus on safety, you only have one penis, take good care of it.

PE will greatly improve your penile health and increase your EQ, in addition to size gains, but you need to be consistent, patient and persistent, please do as much research as you can, ask questions, follow safety and exercise instructions carefully and remember that PE is a long term process, don't rush it up.

The first 3 months are mainly for conditioning your penis, and learning how to perform the exercises as well as how your penis responds to them, while some do make gains during that period, it is not guaranteed.

An increase in EQ is the ultimate positive PI sign that you are doing it correctly, if you stay consistent.

Pick one of the manual beginner routines and follow it for at least 90 days to condition your penis, or until you stop gaining. Most members here choose JP90, it is an intense routine, start slow, and build up to the full routine over a few weeks time, jelq with an erection level between 45% and 65% using a moderate grip, just enough to move blood up the shaft and to the glans.

Porn consumption could be a reason behind your erection problems, if you watch porn, you may want to quit.

Pay attention to your PIs, your penis is trying to tell you if you are over working, or you are in the growth zone, aim for positive PIs, and steer away from the negative ones.

Physiologic Indicators (PIs) to Help Penis Growth!


Frequently Asked PE Questions and Topics


What to Expect....A Beginner's Guide



Good luck on your PE journey, PE safely!

[Zekest Member Find all posts View Profile Close Zekest]

Thank you guys! But I've already read all those threads, as I said I've been lurking here for a while now.

The why of my personal routine is just... a personalized routine. I like this philosophy in everything, aswell in fitness, since I believe that knowing what you're doing, and knowing what you want, gives you a very personal stance, so needs are better fulfilled with specific routines.

My routine, as you see, is a light one, but I'm using more intensity every week. First week was 10 min jelq + 1 stretch series (45s per side), while now I'm doing 15 min jelq at a mid-high intensity (for me, for you it may be a mid intensity) and 2 stretch series (1 min per side). I'm always improving the intensity because I quickly feel that my program gets behind: the first week my penis was "tired" with that low work, now I feel the same with this more intense routine, so that's why I always look a way to feel the same "light tiredness" that led me into these quick results. I've also read in these forums that is good to feel that "work" in the penis, as shoelaces in fitness.

By the way! Yes, my EQ has improved... a lot! Before getting into PE, getting laid with my GF was a little tricky. I had a lot of downs in my erections, they lasted a little, and sometimes I had it impossible to get a good erection. Now I never have problems. Sometimes, when I really have difficulties (after hours of sex), I smoke a joint and take a rest with her, and it comes more powerful than ever. That also worked before PE, but in a much lighter way... now those after-weed erections are freaking huge.

Many thanks for your comments but I'd be really glad if some answers are given to my specific questions! Great forum .

edit: And yes, good security advices there! I always put in priority my penis' health and EQ, but I try to struggle as much as I can to improve my gains. I love how good it feels this little ~0,7 cm gain, so I'm heading up to keep up. You know, a 20cm dick is a biggie, but it's actually not a "huge" one, even if it's close. I want to be able to say that about my penis, so this PE routine and the following year, are my way to reach it!

[BigO AdministratorPEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close BigO]

PE doesn't always relate well to fitness training.

In ways that it does; an initial introduction phase into exercising. Jumping into a progressive routine prior to having exercise experience, even if physically ready, will likely lead to an exertion of some kind.

At this point, your stretches are already beyond what is recommended for your conditioned level. Advising any more would be unwise. Same for the jelqs. The advice above was intended as the safest answer to progress your routine. Impatience and forcing gains leads to injury.

If anything, the most I would suggest is JAIs, which should help flaccid size as well.

Focus on EQ and positive PIs as a goal right now, which will put you in the best zone for growth.

Length work typically reduces EQ, and girth increases it. PE in general should give an increase though.

No the sex is not bad.

A balanced kegel routine is best for the intended effect, but if that doesn't interest you, just a light routine of 25 or so, 3 days a week should strengthen without risking an unbalanced pelvic floor too much. In time though, RKs will be needed.

[Zekest Member Find all posts View Profile Close Zekest]

Well, currently I don't feel it overtrained nor so, so I feel quite confident. Think that I'm very afraid of injuries, so I always try to adapt my intensity in order to do a good work while not overtraining it.

The JAI stretches sound pretty good... I think I'll be adding them to my routine for now, but just in a very light way, to finnishing the routine. How many reps or minutes of work should I be using? I'm really interested in this exercise, since I'm focusing on length, and I always hated my flaccid size. Since I began with PE, it looks muuuuuuch better when flaccid, but I still want it to get much better. If this exercise is good for getting a little extra, I'm surely using it ^^.

I was currently doing ~50 fast kegels at the final of the routine +10 more intense ones, aswell with some extra ones in shower or bathroom, but just a little few. Is this ok, or should I go to a lesser number?

I really appreciate all the help, thank you for the answers

[elijohnson Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close elijohnson]

Dunno man, you say you've tried it before and never had any gains, now you're getting gains and you want to change your routine? Makes no sense to me. Stick with what's working.

ALSO! 8 inch cock + girlfriend who's into it? Take NO risks at all. That's the dream of so many people here.

[closed224 Senior Member Member of the Month Dec 2014, Feb 2017 Find all posts View Profile Close closed224]

Dear Zekest, it sounds like you will establish your own intensity and routine no matter the advice given. So I say Be safe, Consistent, Persistent, and keep letting us know how you progress. Enjoy your gains.

[Zekest Member Find all posts View Profile Close Zekest]

Dunno man, you say you've tried it before and never had any gains, now you're getting gains and you want to change your routine? Makes no sense to me. Stick with what's working.

ALSO! 8 inch cock + girlfriend who's into it? Take NO risks at all. That's the dream of so many people here.

I'm beginning to realise that I wasn't consistent enough in those times. I haven't ever done the PE exercises the 5 times a week required, but now I'm doing them always (just with those 2 rest days per week), and it's seeming to work much better than it used to.

Dear Zekest, it sounds like you will establish your own intensity and routine no matter the advice given. So I say Be safe, Consistent, Persistent, and keep letting us know how you progress. Enjoy your gains.

No, no! I'm listening to every advice, since you guys have experience with this. The thing is, that I'll try to adapt to my penis responses, seeing how everything works on it, and so. I'm trying to be safe, consistent, and improving the routine slow and steady. Per example now I'm on the middle of my routine (just resting for 5 minutes after the ~15 min jelq before stretching), and after my 2 stretch series, I'm trying to add a few JAI stretches if I feel confident. Everything always with a not-high intensity (I try to do stretches at a low instensity).

I am open to advices, and believe me, I listen to them! Thank you all for the comments so far

[Cavalier Retired Super Moderator Member of the Month Feb 2015PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close Cavalier]

No, no! I'm listening to every advice, since you guys have experience with this. The thing is, that I'll try to adapt to my penis responses, seeing how everything works on it, and so. I'm trying to be safe, consistent, and improving the routine slow and steady. Per example now I'm on the middle of my routine (just resting for 5 minutes after the ~15 min jelq before stretching), and after my 2 stretch series, I'm trying to add a few JAI stretches if I feel confident. Everything always with a not-high intensity.

I am open to advices, and believe me, I listen to them! Thank you all for the comments so far

Welcome aboard!

That's what you need to do, listen to your penis and keep an eye on your PIs. You can increase slowly over time if your are responding well and keeping the balance of a good workout with positive PIs, but you have to remember you are still in a conditioning period. Everybody here is just advising using caution so that you don't over work it, or even worse, injure yourself.

Good luck and always PE safely.

[Laidbackab Member Find all posts View Profile Close Laidbackab]

I notice with pe you can not rush it learn to enjoy doing the exercises and future gains will come in time.

[BigO AdministratorPEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close BigO]

The JAI stretches sound pretty good... I think I'll be adding them to my routine for now, but just in a very light way, to finnishing the routine. How many reps or minutes of work should I be using?

JAI's are just are very light, brief set of 5 or so stretches at convenient times during the day. Just a few seconds each stretch.

Such as right after urinating, when changing clothes, in and/or out of the shower, etc.

[Zekest Member Find all posts View Profile Close Zekest]

JAI's are just are very light, brief set of 5 or so stretches at convenient times during the day. Just a few seconds each stretch.

Such as right after urinating, when changing clothes, in and/or out of the shower, etc.

I see I see... So I should avoid adding JAI's to the main routine, but doing them in 2-3 spare moments of the day, like when I wake up, when I go to urinate and so, right?

Is it ok a 5 reps 3 second stretches, mid intensity, per time I do it? I'm giving it a try!

[BigO AdministratorPEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close BigO]

Yep, it's not so much keeping them out of the main routine, as using them as a supplemental stretch away from the routine. They are much lighter than regular stretches, so should be a safe addition to help progress.

And yes, 5 3 second stretches, mid to mid-low intensity.