Does PE actually work? Scientists say not.

[shelby3]

While it is true, many will gain in the beginning because of increased eq, (which is a gain) some don't. When I started I got very minimal newbie gains. Maybe 1/16" both ways. I think this is because my eq has always been good and that is why there wasn't much to be had for me. However, I exercised for a solid year with a heavy girth routine and gained 1/4" both ways. It was a good 9 months in before I started seeing gains, so there is no way my size increase was do to increased eq or newbie gains. And like I said it was a heavy girth routine, I hardly stretched at all, very minimally so there is no way this can be attributed to stretching the ligs. So how can this be? I increased the size of my penis. Period. So you can believe me and take this as proof that PE works. Or you can doubt it and listen to the "medical professionals", and stay the size you are. But know this, PE is a lot of work if you want to increase your size. You have to really want it and be prepared to dedicate many, many hours to it if you want to actually gain. Like most things in life, what you put into it will determine what you get out of it. And yes PE can be dangerous and cause long term ed to people who stupidly exercise way to hard, for way to long, way to early!

I have nothing to gain by telling you this. I am not trying to sell you any pills or devices. All of my gains have been made using my hands. The only thing I am trying to sell you is the truth. PE works. The rest is in your hands.

I can't imagine expending all that time to jelq myself, even I know we are not supposed to be erect it just goes against my notions of multitasking and maximization of my productive output. The only PE that seems compatible with me is the hope that I could wear something like the Phallosan or VacADS while programming at the computer (and/or maybe sleeping).

If jelqing is really effective (and especially on girth which is important in TGC theory) and there is no alternative (what about an hour of sex as an alternative?), then I probably could only justify that if I have a woman doing it to me while I am either doing intimate acts with her or while receiving a whole body massage (two ladies) or if I could be reading or doing some productive activity while one lady is doing that to me.

I had avoided contemplating jelqing until I read the TGC theory recently. Was a bummer realization for me, but I have now tried to think about positive ways I could incorporate it as I stated above.

As for conspiracy theories, what if we've all been induced to jelq ourselves by our alphamale owners. The general paradigm is to sell us an unattainable ideology so we have no choice but to enslave ourselves.

[BigO]

Scientists also say all of a sudden there was a big bang and then presto....an entire universe appears.

[shelby3]

Scientists also say all of a sudden there was a big bang and then presto....an entire universe appears.

That is a theory. It is not proven beyond any doubt. There is considerable evidence that the universe is expanding but a paradigm shift could potentially change the interpretation.

You should be careful about commenting on things which you are not expert, as this can weaken your argument for PE (at least in the eyes of those who are knowledgeable the subject matter you are mispresenting).

I write about The Universe.

[CUSP82]

Hey Shell;lighten up. We also try to have some fun around here as well.

Now as for the universe you write about it?Great cause last I heard I was living in it! Nice place; high taxes!

[namsokiek]

You should be careful about commenting on things which you are not expert, as this can weaken your argument for PE (at least in the eyes of those who are knowledgeable the subject matter you are mispresenting).

Probably advice you should follow when writing about PE.

[shelby3]

high taxes!

In USA? There are no income taxes in the USA. Why are you paying?

The 16th admendment did not create an apportioned income tax on wages. $11 million in refunds by 1000s of filers have been obtained with no "frivolous return" cases filed.

[shelby3]

Probably advice you should follow when writing about PE.

Illogical. I made rational statements supported by the information presented in the forum.

Hey I don't cowtail to authority. You can ban me if want. I don't like your avatar, it looks like a policeman and very authoritarian. I don't back down to your type. If our relationship won't be based on mutual respect and rationality, then let's just end it now.

P.S. I've seen the "take it or leave it" attitude of dismissing newbies who ask for more verifiable data. And I don't like it. I am defending the guy who wrote the OP. You should treat us with the same respect you want us to accord you. And rationality is very important.We are males after all. Rationality is supposed to be the endearing trait of our gender.

Hey Shell

My nickname is not feminine. My name is Shelby. Like the car.

Yeah we can joke around; I am all for comraderie. But nonsense is nonsense. Sorry.

[Zman007]

shelby3, what eve stead interest do us claiming to have gained have? Hundreds of sucessful guys claiming to have gained makes little sense...

Ive gained 1.0" BPEL, 1.0" BPSFL, .375" EG. Im meticulous and very careful to measure the same way, I even use a light UI to ensure EQ doesn't affect girth and mimics a full erection. And BPSFL cannot be altered through EQ.

So, either I'm lying, I imagined these results, I grossly and consistently mid easier in a progressive manner, or I'm telling the truth.

I did not take pictures, I didn't want my dick pics all over the internet and it iem dry difficult to take quality comparative photos of your own erect penis to boot! So difficult I wrote it off as a useless endeavor for personal records.

[Closed039]

This guy is crazier than I am. Shelby, have you redeemed your net worth from the IRS after disavowing your all caps fiction?

[CUSP82]

Illogical. I made rational statements supported by the facts presented in the forum.

Hey I don't cowtail to authority. You can ban me if want. I don't like your avatar, it looks like a policeman and very authoritarian. I don't back down to your type.

You don't? Okay good to know. Now what have you got for breakfast; I'm hungry.