I gotta do more.. I think

[sidneycrosby]

So I've been doing JP's beginner routine for 3 weeks now. In those three weeks I've bumped up the manual stretching to 8 minutes, jelqing 12 minutes. My problem is is that I never feel worked after a routine. My dick doesn't feel any different! What do you guys think I should do? I've been doing 2 on 1 off but this week I've done 3 on 1 off and still my dick which is apparently made of steel doesn't want to feel any fatigue what so ever.
I was thinking maybe for tomorrow go back to 5 minute stretching 10 minutes jelqing and see if I can at least get positive PI's if I'm not going to feel worked out anyways.
I'm really confused by this.. I don't think 3 weeks in my dick should be doing more than a 20 minute overall routine?

[closed224]

How long are you holding each stretch? Before you change the times and intensity, you should probably head for the 5 on 2 off like the full JP 90.

[sidneycrosby]

Hold each stretch for 10 seconds, I try to bump up pull intensity on each set until I get to the last set and just try to stretch the bitch off my body.

[popol5169]

Increase the duration of each stretch over time.
Increase the intensity of the stretch during the rep, light pull at the start, stronger pull to finish , but it should be a progressive increase.
How do you jelq?
I second wishful thoughts, why not start with JP90?

[sidneycrosby]

Increase the duration of each stretch over time.
Increase the intensity of the stretch during the rep, light pull at the start, stronger pull to finish , but it should be a progressive increase.
How do you jelq?
I second wishful thoughts, why not start with JP90?

Just regular jelqs with pressure on the sides of shaft instead of top/bottom, because this is bad right? 6-8 second strokes usually.

[closed224]

i recommend you hold the stretches for longer duration, but never pull the bitch off your body. That bitch needs a little more tender loving from the place where I am sitting. You really should read the JP90. It will help you a ton. Follow those instructions, and you won't feel like ripping it off is required.
I know you are a young strong, aggressive man, and I understand wanting to MAKE IT BIGGER NOW. Really the best way to do that is to be patient and get properly conditioned. Then when you understand all of this more you will be able to do some very extreme things to your penis, and not have to go through any injuries.

[sidneycrosby]

Umm I'm dumb I've been doing the basic routine from: PEGYM
Should I switch to JP's.. ?
GOOOD I'M DOZY I'VE BEEN CALLING WHAT I'VE BEEN DOING THE JP FOR 3 WEEKS!

[closed224]

Warming UP

Warming UP.

This is one of the most important things you do to prevent injury:

With a HOT wash cloth, warm your entire groin area for a period of 8 to 10 minutes. Re-heat washcloth every minute or so to keep it hot. This is recommended, as moist heat penatrates better.

You may also use a heated Rice Sock.

Making sure your penis is wrapped and throughly heated.
You want to feel your penis radiating heat when you are through. You want to warm all the LIG's even the ones under your penis and the sides of your groin area.


Basic Stretching Exercises



Grasp your warmed up FLACCID, (Try and stay as flaccid as you can for these stretching exercises, less than 30% erection is ideal) penis between the thumb and first finger at the base. Palm toward belly. Stretch out slightly and do what are called "Helicopter Shakes." Using your wrist, swing your penis around in a circle, about 5 revs per second for a quick count of 20. (kind of like twirling a key chain)

Grasp your penis behind the glans in the O.K. grip palm down and stretch to the left holding the stretch against the theigh.
While holding this stretch, do 25 quick Kegels. (count to 25)
Next, while still holding the stretch, pull straight out and do 10 stretches in a BIG circle to the left and 10 to the right holding the pull.
Try to rub your hand across your belly as you do these.

Return to the base and repeat "Helicopter Shakes". It will be easier to do now, as your flaccid length will be longer. This will get the blood back into the glans.

Stretch to the right and do 25 quick Kegels. Pull straight out and do 10 BIG circles to the left and ten circles to the right.

Repeat "Helicopter Shakes."

Stretch straight out, do Kegels, repeat circle stretches.

Repeat "Helicopter Shakes."

Stretch straight up do Kegels and repeat circle stretches.

Finish with "Helicopter Shakes."

These are the basic stretching exercises to do, as a prelude to the next step, Wet Jelqing.

WET Jelqing

WET JELQING:

No need to re-warm, as your Ligs will be nice and loose now.

Using a good lube. (I use a water based lube by the brand name of Suave, with Vit E and Lanolin, found in any drug store. It's cheap, smells good leaves your skin nice and easy clean up.

A couple of squirts of lube in each hand. (Re-lube often when it starts to feel dry) Hint...get a little water on your hands during Jelqing, this re-activates the lube already on the hands and shaft.
Grasp your penis at the base firmly, in the O.K. grip, palms facing down.

Slide, holding the grip, up to the glans. While holding the grip at the glans, start your other hand at the base. when half way up the shaft, release the grip at the glans and continue the slide up, trapping the blood at the glans and upper shaft.
Repeat these "Wet Jelqs" for a count of 50 reps. If you become erected, stop and wait for it to subside some. You want to be about 60% to 70% erected for these. Do these slowly. About 3 or 4 seconds per rep. Both hands count as 1 rep. As you become more used to these exercises, it won't feel as much like masturbation and you will not get erected as easily. Do these exercises straight out.


-------"V" JELQS
Next, do what are called "V" Jelqs. These are done by useing the V between your middle and next finger. Cup your hand and slide up the shaft with your fingers curled toward your belly and the underside of your shaft resting in the "V". The fingers should be rideing on the sides of your shaft. Make sure you use lots of lube as you want to slide smoothly for these exercises. When you reach the glans, start your other hand up. These are a great exercise for Head Girth, Overall Girth and Stretching.

As you are sliding up the shaft, pull straight up. Alternate by pulling up and to the right, up and to the left. Do 30 of these reps.

Repeat with 50 "Wet Jelqs" and 30 "V" Jelqs.

Do a total of 150 "Wet Jelqs" and 90 "V" Jelqs.



Warming Down

Warm Down;

This is VERY important. This will prevent trama injury to your penis.

Do the same as warming up, HOT wash cloth. Warm down for a minimum of 5 to 6 minutes. Do these exercises to start, for 5 days and then, Important, take 2 full days off from PE. This will give your penis a chance to heal and grow, but continue to do your Kegels whenever you think about them. .
If you find this is too much, reduce the exercises to, 2 days on and 1 day off.

As you start to see results, usually girth and flacid length, first, the temptation to go overboard will be great. But, and I stress this, Don't try and jump into some of the advanced routines posted here in this, or other forums. These exercises are designed to start you on your way to a Longer and thicker penis and to PREVENT injury.

As you progress, and master these exercises, usually about a 3 month time period to see length gains, but you will see flacid and some girth gains as early as 3 weeks. Remember,all of your gains are permanent. Good luck to all, in your quest for a larger penis.



Supplements

These Supplements are all you will need.

Stay away from Penis Enlargement Pills. These are a waste of money.

Take these every day for the duration of this program. Then decide if you want to continue with these supplements.*

1 Super B complex. (Most B vitamin B's are absent in processed food.)


1 Multi Vitamin & Minerals. (These are to boost your overall health during the exercise period.)

2 500mg L-Arginine capsule. (Or powdered L-Arginine, follow directions. This is for good blood circulation.)


Pelvic floor balance (April 2013 amendment)

Pelvic floor balance is of paramount importance, it affects both erection quality and ejaculatory control. In order to avoid creating an imbalanced, or tense, pelvic floor you will need to do reverse kegels in addition to the kegels that are performed during the stretching part of the routine. I have posted two links below which explain the importance and mechanics of pelvic floor balance, and also how to do reverse kegels. Since we are hoping to maintain balance, you should try to do an equal amount of kegels and reverse kegels.

https://www.pegym.com/forums/prematu...r-balance.html

https://www.pegym.com/forums/prematu...se-kegels.html

It is also worth noting that the premature ejaculation forum is incredibly useful for all men, not just those with premature ejaculation. If the subjects of pelvic floor balance, or greater ejaculatory control interest you I would recommend reading the stickies in this subsection.

(jP


For Pictures and Videos:

• JP's 90 Day Beginner Routine With Videos/Pics

Overview:
JonPop's 90-Day Beginner Routine Summary

[sidneycrosby]

So I'm going to propose modifying JP's routine as such:
-remove V-jelqs as I hate doing these... I lose count of them, they feel very awkward
-add an extra 100 wet jelqs making the total 250 wet jelqs
What do you guys think?
How slow should the big circle stretches be? Just like in the video?