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  • Questions/Concerns about my first full PE work-out/session

    Hello all,

    I had some newbie/noob questions and concerns in regards to my routine (I'm doing JP's 90 day beginner's routine). My full first session was last night. I think I did okay, but I just have a few questions/concerns and things I'm not sure about.

    And I apologize beforehand for asking and sharing concerns that are probably noobish or naive, etc. I'm sure that other guys new to PE have asked or shared these concerns a million times but I was unable to find answers to these questions/concerns or at least ones answered thoroughly. That said, I do apologize if these have been answered and addressed. And of course some of my questions/concerns are no big deal I'm sure (i.e. the first one about Helicopter Shakes), while others are maybe more serious in nature. These will appear in the order in which they appear in the routine/work-out. And I want to thank everybody in advance for addressing my noob (and maybe "dumb") questions/concerns:

    1) Doing the Helicopter Shakes I'm pretty much unable to swing the unit in a circle or in a circular motion and I'm basically only able to swing it in an up and down manner (and of course I do know how to swing or twirl a keychain, but find it hard to do this with the unit!)

    2) ****This second one after thinking about it a little while ago is something that I now believe I likely had wrong (and NOW I understand what it means, and I have no issue or problem) because I had the wrong idea of what "down" exactly meant (I believe now that it basically means facing the floor - which makes sense - as opposed to facing your body or stomach, something I initially had thought) I'll still post it though just in case***

    >>I'm a little unsure if I'm holding the unit correctly when doing the stretches (in relation to whether the palm should be up or down). And just to be clear, when I say the "back of the hand," I mean the part of the hand that is on the opposite side of the palm. In the instructions it says to hold the unit behind the glans in the OK grip palm down, however in the various videos and some of the diagrams it shows the OK grip and the palm in the up position (or the back of the hand in the down position, facing the stomach and body). In one of the videos titled Basic Stretch (the one with the slim black dude) it shows him doing it with the palm up (or the back of the hand down facing the stomach/body). Maybe this depends on what you are comfortable with? But in some of the other videos I've seen (including simulation videos on YouTube), it mostly shows it the way it is shown in the Basic Stretch video (the palm up?) although I've seen it done the opposite way too... Bottom line, is the way it is shown in the Basic Stretch video the correct way? That's the way I assumed was correct and the way I had been doing it...<<<

    (Again, I believe now I know what is really meant by "down" and it does NOT mean "down" to the stomach or body, but down to the FLOOR or maybe put another way NOT towards your face (the back of the hand though would be facing your face). But if you are stretching your unit say towards the ceiling or kind of up high, your palm "might" be facing the ceiling and not the floor, so it's a little confusing, but I guess it all depends on the angle, LOL)

    3) When it came to the jelqing part, I was unable to get an erection (the 60 or 70% needed). The unit maybe got like 15% erect, if even that, before I even lost that. So I tried to stay with the jelqing and not stop, but as you can imagine, it was very, very difficult to do the various movements with the hands, and at times I was basically just jelqing stretched skin! First of all, I'm not sure how "safe" this is, but I'm sure that it probably has no benefit. Question: should I have stopped (at least temporarily) to try to get it hard/erect? I don't have ED issues (I'm also not 25 anymore! LOL), although of course my EQ could be better (one of my main goals like many guys on here of course is to improve this).

    If this occurs while trying to jelq in the future, is it a good or viable option (assuming you can't get your unit erect after more than a few minutes or several minutes) to just stop and came back to this later (an hour or two later, or later in the day - hours later)? (And of course when coming back to this, warming up correctly, but no stretching). Or is it better to basically just write it off and call it a day and only try to do this the next day, doing the full PE session (including the stretching)?

    It was pretty frustrating that this was happening when trying to jelq! (I know it's not the end of the world, but frustrating nonetheless, LOL)

    Again, thanks so much in advance to everyone for their help! It's much appreciated! :-)
    Wife/GF: "Honey, I keep seeing all these different rulers and measuring tape everywhere. Were you working on something? Oh, and it's weird... I could swear this one actually smells pretty good, like cocoa butter!" :becky:

  • #2
    1) Don't worry too much about this, for some people, their starting flaccid length might not be long enough to do a full circular heli shake, but overall, it's not a big deal.

    2) It is definitely natural to be worried when starting out that you may be performing the exercises the "wrong" way, but truthfully, each exercise can be modified slightly to make it as comfortable as possible for you (as long as you are not completely changing the exercise or doing something dangerous, like grabbing the head while stretching) It is simply a matter of preference whether you perform your stretches with your palm facing "up" or "down" (same can be said for jelqing) and will likely have no effect on your gains.

    3) Many guys experience erection-related problems when starting out jelqing (whether this be getting hard or going soft too quickly), but for most people, these problems blow over after a few sessions, maybe a few weeks. I would suggest stimulating yourself back to the desired erection level and then continuing on as normal for your problem. It probably will result in your sessions being a lot longer for some time, but eventually your dick will get the message Good luck!

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    • #3
      The purpose for helicopters are to get going to and through the penis. Therefore even going up and down will get the job done. The helicopter effect will simulate centrifugal force (causing blood to flow to the head.) again going up and down causes the same effect. So as long as you get blood starting to flow you should be fine.

      Up or down doesn't matter again it's just getting blood to push up towards your glands. Thu doing plam up or down doesn't matter.

      As the above post getting too hard or too soft is common. If you need to put some porn on (but don't get too hard) or doing kegals while performing will also allow you to get a little more blood flow causing more of an erection.

      Stay with it and you'll get comfortable
      Hope all is well

      starting size
      length: 7 in
      girth: 5.5 in (circumference)

      overall goal
      length: 8 in
      diameter: 7.85 (circumference)

      short term goal
      length: 7.5in
      diameter: 6 (circumference)

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      • #4
        Hello guys,

        Sorry I didn't respond to you all sooner. And thanks a lot for your help and feedback!

        @Big 'Un:

        I figured and hoped that the issues and concerns that I brought up were not too serious (although with the jelqing I was really not too sure), and I just wanted to make sure that these were at least somewhat normal things that most rookies and newbies maybe experience, and also, that I was performing the exercises correctly. It's funny because the next day with the jelqs, I was experiencing the opposite problem (the one of course others tend to ask about) - I was getting an almost full erection (more than 60 or 70%), LOL ;-) I was however able to finish my exercises/reps after waiting a few minutes here and there...

        @dvjjh:

        Yes indeed, I'm aware that this was the reason that the Helicopters were done, and that's why I wasn't too worried about not necessarily being able to perfectly twirl around in circles :-)

        Thanks again :-)
        Wife/GF: "Honey, I keep seeing all these different rulers and measuring tape everywhere. Were you working on something? Oh, and it's weird... I could swear this one actually smells pretty good, like cocoa butter!" :becky:

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