Thank you spanky for having the courage to look inside the female orgasm. So many points you hit or on mark...Yes we all start off female (hard for a lot of men to hear) for the first 9 weeks, then your point about the difficulty of the journey to get to that place, to relax to the point to let go and really feel. I will enjoy reading as you continue on this exploration and believe that doing so will make you a better lover than anyone can imagine. Thanks for having the guts to share this.

I'm interested about you saying you need to relax and let go. I was trying so hard to push it over and just not getting there

Yes...I so understand this...I am a multi tasker so I have to just let myself go to the point where nothing except for feeling the feelings you were describing come to the front. There is the moment that you expressed where you either go over the hill or retreat, I do not have a technique on how to get over the hill all I can say is you have to relax and trust ...if you are with a person that you can trust that the person has your back...wont do anything stupid and this experience will not change their views about you. If you are by yourself, not having to worry about will someone walk in on me, will the phone ring, noise outside....Most people only set a mood when they are going to be intimate with someone else. Setting a mood for personal intimacy...lights, music,candles, incense, Silk robes, libations/etc. can help (notice I didnt even mention porn)...I mean if I don't know how to treat myself special in solo then how can I treat you special when we get intimate as a couple....just my opinion

I mean if I don't know how to treat myself special in solo then how can I treat you special when we get intimate as a couple....

Ohhh I couldn't agree more, self awareness is the key to understanding others and knowing exactly what to give. And what a jourmey!

Anyway on body O, I tried again, and it was so weird, I got close, maybe 8/10, coiling up, moaning involuntarily - well I say that, I had the house to myself - but again didn't finish, though it was lovely for a couple of minutes, but then unexpectedly dropped right back down again without a climax, but as if I'd had one, and it was too hard to get back up there, nothing worked.

I had an ex-girlfriend a while back tell me that a lot of women only ever have the little ones, and think that's it, only if they're lucky, someone will give them a proper O and it'll blow their mind.

I can see that, I gave someone their first G-spot O once. Same effect I guess.

Yes...its almost like a brain freeze...you know how that feels really good but you can not stand it, but if you could just let go it is sort of like that your whole body tingling and feeling everything. From your toes to your hair folicles. A very floating experience like you are no longer solid and merely energy...hard to describe...it is just the most awesome relaxing feeling in the world. Like the best massage multiplied by a trillion

That is so many million miles away from a guy's typical orgasm. I know I'm on the right path... Being close, even just doing this is way better than a typical guy orgasm, I've never masturbated before normally and actually moaned, actually shouted "fuck yes" and "oh godddd" like I'm doing now...

The frustrating thing is having it so close, and knowing there's something life changing just there. Just out of my reach. I wonder if being 40, that I might be so old and set in my ways that it's harder, like if I'd been doing this at 20 maybe it would have been easier.

But one day. And it's a lot of fun trying! Thank you so much for your thoughts

No problem...right there with you on the F Yes and the Oh Ya....No I think as you get older hopefully the pressures become less important and I dont care what people think attitude surfaces....So scream your head off and enjoy...who cares if the neighbors hear. I never really cared about what anyone thought about my Os until others tried to put pressure on me. So hopefully soon you will get over the hill and you will get to experience that feeling...cause yes it is the best feeling evah...and keep up the blog...this has been such an interesting conversation.

So you're saying that an orgasm must be "female" when it is really good... or? I'm confused at what makes it female when you're a male stimulating his penis to get there. I read the description and that is how I cum when it is a good one. I don't feel like a female though, I feel like a human letting myself go and experiencing my body from the inside.

The body doesn't fully develop sexually in the womb, that occurs during puberty. Our sexual organs are quite different but our brains aren't so the way we experience stimulation of the sexual organs could be the same. I guess you could call it a "female orgasm", but I think body O or full O is a much better term. Men can orgasm from anal penetration, I would say that is more similar to a female orgasm than one from stimulating the penis.

I also think vibrators desensitize you to the real thing so be careful.

Interesting post though, so many men disregard any higher feeling or emotion as something for women only, which is why I was put off by you using the term "female orgasm" to describe a male orgasm.

The idea of a female orgasm versus a male one is fairly well established, correct or not. And in all fairness, as a guy, and for most guys, we see women cum, and it looks way bigger and more powerful than the usual nnnngggg.. Boom. twitch twitch... done that we get from our penises, and many men only ever have.

Women's journey to orgasm is different to mens' typically, as they don't have a prostate and don't ejaculate. Ours is a different, lesser orgasm to the mind and body O we can all have. Maybe that's the one women always have? I don't know, but it sure looks better, and as far as I've got yet, it sure feels better too.

But like you say @GoingForGold, the idea that this is exclusive to women is embedded so deeply in our society that few people ever question it. Getting to this sort of orgasm is a different path from usual masturbation, and it's not one we learn, so in a way, as that is something all women have to do to cum anyway, though many still never manage it, it's no surprise it's called a "female orgasm".

And of course, maybe it IS different after all? But either way, I'm questioning yet another unwritten truth in our world, and the journey so far is delightful

My wife has at least five different orgasms and combinations, I'm blessed to be involved and help her as I love her so. She's incredible. There is only one organ on the human body that is solely for pleasure, it is the clitorous . And I don't have one, I believe in male multiples because I've had it happen twice to me in 35 years. Spanky I hope you are on a truely MMO path to bliss but I don't think we guys could ever experience what a free and confident sexual woman can feel when all her buttons are being pushed.

My wife has at least five different orgasms and combinations ...

Now this is interesting. As I've been on this path, I've had different sorts of things happen. I've had mild things, dunno if that's an orgasm, it's not the explosion we normally get, but a bit like "soft wave MMO", without trying to do anything special, or kegel, or focus, it just came on. So, my body electric, my hands and arms starting to twitch, deep gasps as I'm on the way to full body, rising gradually, feels really nice, then suddenly it's gone. No peak, no ejac, no twitches, but I lose wood and I'm physically numb. Like dead wood haha. I carried on, and forced myself to get back up, took a couple of minutes of intense, consistent stimulation before I'd respond to it and be back on the climb.

Now, that's not a buckled up, screaming orgasm by any means, but it's some kind of physical up and down that I never had in the usual way. Completely different. Full body, but very very mild.

I've also had different partial and "partial partial" peaks a bit like this a few times now during normal sex since fighting Pre E and trying (badly) to do MMO. But not quite the same. Two dry, soft twitches, like IKs, no loss of erection, but like the PoNR peak just disappeared and I could carry on furiously for ten minutes plus.

... a bit like my cock and kegels start off trying to ejaculate, like coming too quickly, so no orgasm rush, but my body quickly realises in seconds that the prostate and ejaculation's not there, stops and goes oh well, back to square one and try again. But half the machine is still there, hard, aroused like 7/10, and stays there. Like arousal got disconnected from the prostate/ejac physical piece.

I think we can have many different types of O too. I know I've had different ones. Obviously not going to feel quite the same as hers, yanno not having a cervix or vagina or clitoris (though I'm sure it's a fact that your penis and her clitoris grow from the same stem cells), but this is everything I'm trying to do, to ignore everything that we're told about orgasm and find out for myself.

I've found out enough so far to know this is a worthwhile path, just sayng.

but I don't think we guys could ever experience what a free and confident sexual woman can feel when all her buttons are being pushed.

See this is exactly my point. I think we can. I just think we as guys are so blindsided by the typical penis/prostate ejaculatory one, which is the easiest, and quickest, that we never train or learn how else to get to the bigger peaks.

I wish you all the luck Spanky. Are you worried that all this alone time mite ruin time with a woman, when it mite not be as good? A little like porn.

Not really. Not like I haven't been around, and I don't watch porn anyway. Also, in this alone time, I'm learning more about my pleasure in trying to prolong it and enjoy it more which definitely, and from experience, translates into better sex for both of us .

For example, if I get head just focusing on my frenulum, it turns out that not only will I not cum, but also I'll get more and more aroused, way, way past normal orgasm level, shouting and writhing. So finding that out meant I could tell the girl I was seeing at the time, and oh boy the look on her face seeing what she was doing to me... it's ALL good

Thanks for the wishes I'll share anything I learn on here anyway.

Well,!? Maybe you are on the right road? I get the same satisifaction from the looks on my wife's face today. So much fun to watch.

yes Its called an inner orgasm, In eastern practices it is like a cosmic orgasm.. The man can orgasm without ejaculation and this is the goal of sexual practice for a male so that he can retain his energy and not waste it.

It involved letting the sexual energy rise up and circulate back down and around, its called kundalini in india and micro cosmic orbit in chinese

Interesting post Spanky... you know where I'm coming from on this. You actually are the reason I figured I could find the pleasure in it.

Good post!