Skeptical Inquiry from Beginner

[HotRod Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close HotRod]

Okay. I'm willing to give this a shot, but I have some questions I'd like to get answered in order to protect my health and make sure I'm not wasting my time. I'd like to get answers from regular guys who are actually practicing jelq and other techniques:

1. Does PE really work? Everthing I've read from urologists online says categorically that these exercises will not increase your penis size. In fact there are lots of warnings that you can damage tissues etc. I'm guessing that a lot of guys are so eager to get gains that they just work to damn hard and that probably accounts for most of the injuries.

2. For some of you guys who claim gains, has your penis taken on an irregular shape, ie: fat on the end and skinny at the base, or has your penis maintained about the same proportion as when you began?

3. I've been doing some basic Kegels for a few weeks. I've noticed that I can move my erect penis more than I could when I started. I can't say I've noticed any other changes. Has anybody else found that Kegels can increase girth.

4. I'm primarily interested in gaining girth. Are there better exercises than straight jelqing for girth gains?

6. Do your erections still stand tall and proud (pointing up) or do they begin to dangle like a flaccid penis when erect?

I know these are fairly elementary questions that could probably be answered by reading a faq somewhere, but I just wanted to get it straight up from some guys who have been doing this for a while.

Thanks very much,
Rod
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[Iguana Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Iguana]

Okay. I'm willing to give this a shot, but I have some questions I'd like to get answered in order to protect my health and make sure I'm not wasting my time. I'd like to get answers from regular guys who are actually practicing jelq and other techniques:

Welcome to the PE Gym Rod! First off let me say I get a little concerned about guys who are not at least a little skeptical. The world is full of Bozos wanting to sell you "the only real proven way to grow your penis longer and fuller." A healthy dose of skepticism is a very good thing.

We are not here to sell you anything. We, like you, wanted to make our penises larger and we discovered natural penis enlargement much like you did, from other guys who had had success. You are wise in trying to protect your health. Health and safety is our #1 concern here. We don't want anyone getting injured doing anything foolish.

Ok... for your questions.

1. Does PE really work? Everything I've read from urologists online says categorically that these exercises will not increase your penis size. In fact there are lots of warnings that you can damage tissues etc. I'm guessing that a lot of guys are so eager to get gains that they just work to damn hard and that probably accounts for most of the injuries.

Absolutely! I have nothing to gain from telling you otherwise. I lead a very busy life and volunteer here to help others. If it were a farce, I could think of a thousand other ways I could spend my time. But it is real! And I get great joy from helping other guys who are insecure like I once was. This is a FREE site. We are not here to sell you anything. Be wary of anyone who offers to do so.

Urologist, to my knowledge, have never studied natural penis enlargement. And why should they? There's no money in it for them. Their warnings are with good motive but unfortunately however, given in ignorance. I actually know of a couple of doctors who practice natural PE themselves.

Yes, you are absolutely correct about injuries. Probably 98% of them come from guys doing things that are not recommended or encouraged.

2. For some of you guys who claim gains, has your penis taken on an irregular shape, ie: fat on the end and skinny at the base, or has your penis maintained about the same proportion as when you began?

Personally, no. My penis looks pretty much the same as it did, only thicker and longer. I do have some discoloration which is very common. It's skin deep and can be effectively treated with peels. I will be honest with you, some guys do develop some irregularities in shape (i.e. baseball bat effect) but I think this is mostly due to overdoing it with some exercises and not focusing on others. Some develop a thicker base, which for most, is highly desirable.

3. I've been doing some basic Kegels for a few weeks. I've noticed that I can move my erect penis more than I could when I started. I can't say I've noticed any other changes. Has anybody else found that Kegels can increase girth.

I have never heard of kegels increasing girth. They usually just build strength and endurance. I would pose this question to remek, he is much more knowledgeable about kegels than I am.

4. I'm primarily interested in gaining girth. Are there better exercises than straight jelqing for girth gains?

The primary girth exercises are jelqing, clamping, pumping, squeezes and others. Some report good gains from any combination of these exercises. Some of these exercises are pretty intense and are not recommended to beginners. IMHO jelqing is the safest most effective girth exercise for beginners.

5. Are my goals really possible?: Currently: 6.0 erect length from pubic bone/4.5 girth (shooting for 6.75/5.5)

Length is a very modest goal. With hard work and dedication I would say that's a very obtainable goal. 1" girth is also very possible but it will likely take longer and be a bit more of a challenge. BUT, this is assuming you are typical. Some guys gain girth really fast. Some guys can't buy a millimeter of girth. The same holds true of length. But, assuming you are not a hard gainer I think your goals are not far fetched at all. They are way below what most are shooting for.

6. Do your erections still stand tall and proud (pointing up) or do they begin to dangle like a flaccid penis when erect?

This is a complicated question believe it or not. EQ (erection quality) is very complex and will go up and down based on a number of factors. Such as; what exercises you are doing, what intensity you do them at, what supplements you are taking, smoking, caffeine intake, general health, etc, etc, etc. PE done consistently and properly should improve EQ.

As far as erection angle. Yes, there are some things that can affect erection angle, such as hanging. Some guys report a drop in erection angle (don't confuse with erection quality) over a period of time. This can happen with increases in size, stretching of ligaments, etc. Most guys don't consider this to be a bad thing and I have never heard of any extreme cases.

I know these are fairly elementary questions that could probably be answered by reading a faq somewhere, but I just wanted to get it straight up from some guys who have been doing this for a while.

Not a problem. We are glad you found us and are interested in our "craft." These are all good questions, we may even add a few of them to the FAQ section. If you have any others please don't hesitate to post.

-Iguana

[HotRod Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close HotRod]

Thanks, Iguana. Those are some quality replies to my questions. I'm glad my questions may be helpful in building your faq.

About 8 years ago when I first read about jelqing, I thought that the information should be free. If it was something passed along from Arab fathers to their sons, then men should be sharing this information openly and it shouldn't be making anyone filthy rich.

The PE Gym probably makes the whole issue safer for everyone since the info is all right here at our fingertips and there is open treatment of questions and concerns like mine without censorship.

My "problem" (which isn't really a problem as I seem to be able to make women happy) started when some of my male playmates started laughing at me while I was peeing outside with them. I was about 9 years old and they laughed and said that I had such a small dick. They thought that was funny. They were three brothers who happened to have longer flaccid penises than I did. But it gave me a complex, and there were other early lockeroom shower scenes where other boys were teased too and this made me all the more protective of exposing myself. I'm 40 years old now, very fit, and attractive to women, but this is something I'd like to try to change just a little in my life before I'm too old to even care.

I love erotic photography and videos and many of the men just seem to turn these women on with their larger penises. It's also exciting to see a woman being penetrated and a larger penis makes it a little more visually obvious. Giant penises are just too freakish and are not exciting to me, so I guess that's why I would like to keep my goal modest. I don't want to hurt women either.

Just a little bit bigger would be really sweet from my personal perspective. I think I will start with a light beginners regimen soon. I'm having a vasectomy at the end of this month, so I'll have to take a break for a couple weeks anyway.

Thanks for everything,
Rod

[remek Founder Find all posts View Profile Close remek]

Rod: I want to second Iguana's very warm welcome.

As he said, we'd be a little worried about someone who wasn't skeptical. Most men are in the beginning. After some time, they start to realize that PE isn't that different from any other type of exercising.

About 8 years ago when I first read about jelqing, I thought that the information should be free. If it was something passed along from Arab fathers to their sons, then men should be sharing this information openly and it shouldn't be making anyone filthy rich.

I'm curious: Where did you read about jelqing 8 years ago? I'm trying to build a "PE Timeline" to hopefully figure out where it came from.

My "problem" (which isn't really a problem as I seem to be able to make women happy) started when some of my male playmates started laughing at me while I was peeing outside with them. I was about 9 years old and they laughed and said that I had such a small dick. They thought that was funny. They were three brothers who happened to have longer flaccid penises than I did. But it gave me a complex, and there were other early lockeroom shower scenes where other boys were teased too and this made me all the more protective of exposing myself. I'm 40 years old now, very fit, and attractive to women, but this is something I'd like to try to change just a little in my life before I'm too old to even care.

It's funny how those little comments can turn into hours, days, and even years of insecurity and self doubt. For many men, the issue only expands in their minds overtime. Thankfully, there is a way.

Giant penises are just too freakish and are not exciting to me, so I guess that's why I would like to keep my goal modest. I don't want to hurt women either.

What is your goal and starting stats by the way? You should try starting a progress log. Either way, good luck and you have the right mindset: Start light and don't get too anxious in that you go overboard and hurt yourself.

[remek Founder Find all posts View Profile Close remek]

Also, Hotrod: I've heard of quite a few men report that Kegels helped increase their size - largely by increasing blood flow to their penis. This might of been what happened to you.

[HotRod Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close HotRod]

Hi Remek,

Thanks for the welcome.

You asked where I read about jelqing 8 years ago...

Well, let's see if I can remember. You know what? With some digging I might actually be able to find the files I downloaded from some pay site back in about 2000. I'm pretty sure it would have been that long ago. It was a penis enlargement membership site and it cost like $29.95 to download this guy's ebook. I managed to enter his site with a bogus username and password, so clearly he didn't have a secure site.

No guarantees that I still have that file, but if I do, I will get back to you on this.

~Rod

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Oh, and starting stats are:

6.0 bpel x 4.5 girth

I'm hoping to get a modest gain:

up to 7.0 bple x 5.5 girth

I'm especially interested in that girth goal.

I've had two gentle sessions so far this weekend. I'm taking days off in between for a while until I make sure my body can handle this.

~Rod

[remek Founder Find all posts View Profile Close remek]

HotRod: Good idea on the rest days. No worry about the file - I've probably seen it (or some version of it). I was wondering if you learned of it offline somewhere (magazine, book, etc).