Is it safe to say hf is caused by trauma?

[Mike_b Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Mike_b]

Most of us have pulled our dick a million times or hung weights, felt pain and even have bloodspots. Could this be the reason why our penis is lifeless? I'm not saying hf is universally the same for everybody. Is it safe to say those dormant parts just haven't healed yet? Means they're taking their sweet old time. Does anybody have anything to say about this? It's just a question. Many have had pelvic floor problems as the cause so don't mind me saying this. We used to talk about this like what came first? The chicken or the egg?

[DickerSchwanz Senior Member Member of the Month Sept 2015 Find all posts View Profile Close DickerSchwanz]

People without doing PE have HF.
I`m on men forums since 2000.. HF is a relatively new "pandemic" since 5-10 years.. mostly young men.

IMO, unhealthy male behavior is the reason, be it trauma cause of pulling too fast, sitting infront of PC wanking to pornhub or other stress reasons/all together.
I remember my PF was shot and all time cramped after 2 years of this some years ago. Wouldn`t happen if I wanked to a playboy centerfold like 25 years ago
Turns mental too, HF sufferers seem very anxious and stressed.

Would HF sufferers have HF if they had healthy bodies, lots of walking the dog, limited PC time, healthy sex life and no stress? Just my observations..

[Mike_b Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Mike_b]

Hey man, thanks for the reply. We can only hope someone reaches peace! That goes for all man 🙂 struggling. Let it be painless!

[DickerSchwanz Senior Member Member of the Month Sept 2015 Find all posts View Profile Close DickerSchwanz]

Hey man, thanks for the reply. We can only hope someone reaches peace! That goes for all man  struggling.

True!

Let it be painless!

Which would make peace meaningless Overcoming pain makes stronger.

[Mike_b Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Mike_b]

That is true man. There can be peace without war but there can not be war without peace! Good call man ☺️

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So anxiety /stress seems to be the number one causal factor . Unhealthy lifestyle factors are number 2 .
The actual trigger event is a distant third .

[DickerSchwanz Senior Member Member of the Month Sept 2015 Find all posts View Profile Close DickerSchwanz]

So anxiety /stress seems to be the number one causal factor . Unhealthy lifestyle factors are number 2 .
The actual trigger event is a distant third .

Sounds about right.

The biggest factor must be putting the Pelvic Floor into a bad position.
I don't remember seeing any HF issues prior to the pornhub era 2010+. (young)Men had stress and unhealthy lifes before without developing HF.
I remember ~2004 loaning Porn DVD's and relaxing back into my couch watching a whole porn movie on the TV lol. Completely different to wanking in a hunched over position infront of the PC or a small smartphone to a fast cut pornhub clip which if done too often leads to escalating porn scenarios. Which creates, well documented(!), a lot of mental stress that leads to physio symptoms like the PF clenching up.

It`s so weird,..I get the the same vibe from 90% of HF sufferers which imo is directly related to above. (not saying there can't be other reasons for some)

[Mike_b Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Mike_b]

I agree Pegasus, and dicker shwarz. There has to be a barrier there. When a doctor and a wholesome Christian guy tell you not to masturbate, you better not. It's like the boxer Andy Ruiz. He did it to himself. His trainer and his father both told him not to raid the fridge. It was himself that ate too much equals he turned into a tub of goo and lost the rematch to AJ

So just like the emmergance of porn in the 2000s also was the rise of the metro sexual male. Hairless chest, body you name it. Years ago this wouldn't be a problem in society. We should leave the grooming to women and as men only do it if it's occasionally and it's safe.

After all a woman doesn't want to feel all that stubble, she wants to be reminded that she's with a man aka hairy! Just my 2 cents in anxiety and depression forum. Were coming up on some stranger days man! Lol. Correct me if I'm wrong.

[DickerSchwanz Senior Member Member of the Month Sept 2015 Find all posts View Profile Close DickerSchwanz]

ha remember metrosexual lol. Had fun with that too. Nowadays everything is possible imo. Going all hairy or all shaved is both accepted.
But yeah much of it is messing with the core male being. Watching others fuck woman on video is taken by the "animal mind" like you`re not procreating turning you into a second tier in the male order which is a stress situation as the 2nd tier doesn`t get food and no offspring etc.
Possible to reframe(cause fridge is full lol aint stone age survival) but for young guys not so easy to be that self aware without emotional stress.

[Mike_b Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Mike_b]

ha remember metrosexual lol. Had fun with that too. Nowadays everything is possible imo. Going all hairy or all shaved is both accepted.
But yeah much of it is messing with the core male being. Watching others fuck woman on video is taken by the "animal mind" like you`re not procreating turning you into a second tier in the male order which is a stress situation as the 2nd tier doesn`t get food and no offspring etc.
Possible to reframe(cause fridge is full lol aint stone age survival) but for young guys not so easy to be that self aware without emotional stress.

That's very true and real ahha. I guess life is like lifting weights, the more resistance we apply the stronger it makes us aka builds to our resolve.

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Masturbation is not the problem here guys been masturbating a long time with little problem . I don't remember a doc telling me not to masturbate which leaves the church . The guilt thing is part of the problem imo.

[DickerSchwanz Senior Member Member of the Month Sept 2015 Find all posts View Profile Close DickerSchwanz]

I think you underestimate how many guys masturbate to pornhub these days. Always same position, sitting, hunched over, clenched, straining the PF.
Not sure if thats a big part of HF as many do that without getting HF but I suspect it.
Maybe I just didn`t notice before but HF is now everywhere related to male sexual forums etc.

[Mike_b Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Mike_b]

I think you underestimate how many guys masturbate to pornhub these days. Always same position, sitting, hunched over, clenched, straining the PF.
Not sure if thats a big part of HF as many do that without getting HF but I suspect it.
Maybe I just didn`t notice before but HF is now everywhere related to male sexual forums etc.

I think the scary part is that people aggravate too much vigorous masturbation with all these filths on the internet. It is a dirty thing. It must serve a purpose though as there are single men. Nobody wants to be in a relationship with that guy from John Juan completely addicted to porn. Frick he was dating Scarlett Johansson man! Ffs

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I think you underestimate how many guys masturbate to pornhub these days. Always same position, sitting, hunched over, clenched, straining the PF.
Not sure if thats a big part of HF as many do that without getting HF but I suspect it.
Maybe I just didn`t notice before but HF is now everywhere related to male sexual forums etc.

So porn bad posture jada jada not just masturbation as previous generations would have known it .

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So porn bad posture jada jada not just masturbation as previous generations would have known it .

Masturbating once a day is one thing, masturbating 3 times a day to messed up fetish porn and IK'ing the entire time leads to many problems. 10 year olds can access porn these days for goodness sakes.

I think one needs to take a holistic approach to hf. What I mean is, there are numerous factors that contribute to it IMO, posture, PF health, PMO habits, diet, and even small things like nose vs mouth breathing. I was a mouth breather for the last 2 years due to congested sinuses from allergies, when I started nose breathing a lot of my stress and anxiety went away. MOuth breathing raises cortisol levels and nose breathing lowers them...human were meant to be nose breathers.
Just some thoughts, I think peripheral vision training and Attention Training Technique (Metacognitive Therapy) are also some things to look into aside from mindfulness.