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    How come I can only get an erection if I'm in a chair or laying on my bed? Why can't I get one while I'm already standing up? I also struggle often to maintain an erectiion standing up. So for example I can get hard in my chair but if I stand up my erection and libido often vanish rather quickly. Only a few times I've managed to stay hard standing up if I'm stimulating enough and/or looking at porn and building up to climax. If I stop stimulating my erection dies quickly when I stand up. However, in the mornings, if I get hard or am already hard I can get out of bed and walk around with an erection just fine.

    Is this all related to the pelvic floor? Does it mean my pelvic floor is too tense/tight?

  • #2
    I posted a thread not too long ago that nobody has responded to surprisingly but came be of some help.
    https://www.pegym.com/forums/erectil...tory-here.html

    The reason your able to get a better erection in bed is because your cardiovascular system is relaxed. And the reason your getting a better erection in a chair is because your muscles that are responsible for trapping blood in penis are slightly pushed together.

    1. Stop the porn! (Repeated external stimulus that's not actually real doesn't help. (Natural stimulus/Real Women) is the answer.
    2. The bad habits of masturbating while looking at porn sitting in a seat ((If that is your problem)) (Weaken pelvic floor muscles and your banging up on your prostate gland) which can cause premature ejaculation.
    3. Strengthening and balancing your pelvic floor muscles is a good start. Plenty of threads on here for that.
    4. If you think your pelvic floor is too tight so others might chim in on help with that. If you were having problems maintaining an erection while standing cardiovascular workouts and pelvic floor strengthening could be the route to go.

    Leave the porn alone brother and check out my thread. Hope this helps you out.
    JRFreedom100
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    Last edited by JRFreedom100; 07-26-2017, 09:23 AM.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by JRFreedom100 View Post
      I posted a thread not too long ago that nobody has responded to surprisingly but came be of some help.
      https://www.pegym.com/forums/erectil...tory-here.html

      The reason your able to get a better erection in bed is because your cardiovascular system is relaxed. And the reason your getting a better erection in a chair is because your muscles that are responsible for trapping blood in penis are slightly pushed together.

      1. Stop the porn! (Repeated external stimulus that's not actually real doesn't help. (Natural stimulus/Real Women) is the answer.
      2. The bad habits of masturbating while looking at porn sitting in a seat ((If that is your problem)) (Weaken pelvic floor muscles and your banging up on your prostate gland) which can cause premature ejaculation.
      3. Strengthening and balancing your pelvic floor muscles is a good start. Plenty of threads on here for that.
      4. If you think your pelvic floor is too tight so others might chim in on help with that. If you were having problems maintaining an erection while standing cardiovascular workouts and pelvic floor strengthening could be the route to go.

      Leave the porn alone brother and check out my thread. Hope this helps you out.
      Thanks for the reply man, finally some answers.

      I've been doing nofap for nearly 5 months now but I had multiple mini-relapses and 2-4 serious relapses last month (right as I was making great progress). I am not determined to hard mode and have been for 25 days.

      I kinda figured that sitting down was trapping the blood better but I am also able to get hard laying down in bed and for some reason in mornings I can get out of bed and walk around with an erection just fine, but if its the middle of the day or evening and I get hard in my chair, I find it extremely difficult to maintain an erection when I stand up. Only sometimes when I fapped to porn (no orgasm but I was definitely close to it a few times) I could actually maintain the erection, but of course I was building up to climax, so I suppose going nofap and fixing PIED helps it out a bit but still doesn't solve the problem entirely.

      My next issue/question is how do I know if my pelvic floor is too tight or weak? Isn't tightness a result of weakness? How do I balance the floor? The last couple of days I've been following some guides on this website, doing yoga poses, reverse kegals, roughly 70:30 (30 being regular kegals) and a month or two ago I tried doing fairly intense regular kegals daily but that didnt help me I think. I feel like the area between my anus and balls is always pulled up and bit and I have to consciously tell that area to relax. Even my anus area feels tightened up a bit. I dont think I have other symptoms of a tight floor though, I can urinate and defecate just fine. I dont get urgency to take a piss/shit and I'm definitely not incontinent so this is some messed up imbalanced I have NO IDEA how to correct. Should I stuck with reverse kegals 70 and regular kegals 30? And keep doing yoga poses and lots of stretches to relax my floor/muscles through out the day? I kinda figured that relaxing and stretching the floor cant hurt the quality of my erections in the long run because when you think about it, the pelvic floor is working all the time no matter what you do. I also find it easy to shut my pee stream on and off so I think my BC muscles is strong...I just knew some specific way to fix my standing erections, I desperately want to return to normal.

      I know of guys that cant even maintain their erection standing up in mornings, so there must be a clue here, I can get hard in bed then walk around with a hardon for a while so that must mean my floor is relaxed in the morning and thus allows better blood flow, right? So by that logic I should continue with reverse kegals and stretching my floor, right? Please I really need help on this!

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      • #4
        I really apologise for double posting this but I am SEVERELY DESPERATE ON THIS ISSUE! I was extremely suicidual several months ago and only now I'm starting to see a light at the end of the tunnel. I just want this fixed. I'm meeting my LDR gf in a few months and I need improvement! I DONT CARE ABOUT MY PIED ISSUE! That's a very easy fix for me, 90 days hard mode (I even cheated first 120 days and still made huge gains) is all I need. But this pelvic floor issue is KILLING ME! It's completely unfair!.

        Hi, I still dont know what kind of state my pelvic floor is in! I know I can get hard if I'm in a chair or laying in bed and I can walk around with a boner standing up in mornings but I cant get hard EVER if I'm already standing up and if its evening or middle of the day I cant maintain an erection when I stand up out of my chair! Only sometimes if I get really stimulated and look at porn and am building to climax (the problem did seem worse before so I may have SLIGHTLY improved this but I dont know if my floor is TENSE, WEAK or needs strengthening, balancing etc..)

        How to Identify an Unbalanced Pelvic Floor



        • Premature ejaculation can be a symptom of too much tension in the pelvic floor.

        • I dont think I have this, maybe A LITTLE bit...I dont know if this is from training to porn or because my floor is tense, so this is a possbility I cant rule out one way or the other.

          Delayed ejaculation can happen when the pelvic floor muscles become too weak to contract.

        • No, I can definitely cum to porn if I want to.

          Poor EQ can be a result of both weakness or too much tension

        • My EQ is very poor without porn, it's okish in mornings without porn and only on odd ocassion my erection is 100% with morning/nocturnal wood, in fact it was only 100% when I first started nofap and for a little while inbetween, since then its been so-so and sometimes quite weak. If I look at porn I'd say my EQ is decent enough.

          Loss of libido has being reported by some who have weakened their pelvic floor through too much reverse kegels and not enough kegels.

        • Yes' I'd say my libido isn't as good as it used to be but I think that's more PIED related.

          Uncontrollable involuntary kegels/spasms

        • I'm really not sure about this one. I feel as though the muscle between my anus and balls is somewhat tense all the time so I have to consciously release it and sometimes force myself a little bit to relax it and push it out/down a bit.

          Incontinence can occur when there is too much muscle weakness

        • I'm definitely not incontinent.

          Difficulty urinating and defecating can happen when the muscles are too tense this can happen together or separate if there’s a front/back balance issue.

        • I can pee and poo just fine.

          Pain - consult a doctor.
        • Hard flaccid.



        Neither of this. Although 4.5 months ago I did deal with a lot of pain, burning and painful wet dreams for 2-3 months but that's all cleared up now.
        How to Identify a Balanced Pelvic Floor



        • You’re able to maintain a natural neutral state.

        • Not sure.

          You can stimulate yourself without having uncontrollable kegelspasms.

        • Still not sure about this one.

          You can choose when to let involuntary kegels occur and any ones that do occur can be easily stopped if you so choose.

        • No idea.

          You can last as long as you want (assuming you don’t suffer from mental overstimulation)

        • Again, no idea. I can edge if I want to with porn and I haven't tested with a girl yet.

          High EQ

        • Only with porn.

          No incontinence

        • No.

          No difficulty urinating or defecating

        • No.

          Healthy libido

        • Only with porn

          No pain or hard flaccid

          Nope.


          But again, WHY cant I get hard standing up anymore!? Why is it so much harder to maintain an erection when I stand up. I can only say that if I start fapping to porn in my chair I can stand up and continue fapping and only in the last month or two I've been able to maintain it standing up if I continue rubbing foreskin over my glans and looking at porn. I also simulated missionary (dont laugh) and I managed to maintain it. So either nofap is fixing some problems or not fapping has some how corrected my floor a bit.

          I can also maintain a boner standing up in mornings, so relaxed muscles...it does point to tense floor but I just want an experienced person's opinion on this DESPERATELY!

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        • #5
          For right now if you believe your pelvic floor is tight... Maybe your current routine is too much. Try laying off the kegels for a couple of weeks.

          My understanding of the pelvic floor balance is equal work load.

          My routine for regular kegals is 4 30 second intervals.

          1 set of continuous reps for 30 seconds
          2 set of continuous hold for 30 seconds
          3 set of continuous reps for 30 seconds
          4 set of continuous hold for 30 seconds

          I will repeat this same set to rep scheme for reverse kegals

          And I only do these on Monday Wednesday Friday (You don't want to overwork these muscles!)

          As you get comfortable with your routine and it becomes easier there is room to add a set to the routine.
          JRFreedom100
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          Last edited by JRFreedom100; 07-26-2017, 10:19 AM.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by JRFreedom100 View Post
            For right now if you believe your pelvic floor is tight... Maybe your current routine is too much. Try laying off the kegels for a couple of weeks.

            My understanding of the pelvic floor balance is equal work load.

            My routine for regular kegals is 4 30 second intervals.

            1 set of continuous reps for 30 seconds
            2 set of continuous hold for 30 seconds
            3 set of continuous reps for 30 seconds
            4 set of continuous hold for 30 seconds

            I will repeat this same set to rep scheme for reverse kegals

            And I only do these on Monday Wednesday Friday (You don't want to overwork these muscle!)

            As you get comfortable with your routine and it becomes easier there is room to add a set to the routine.

            Well I'm working on doing reverse kegals for the next 4 weeks and slowly adding more regular kegals over time until its either 50:50 or 60:40.

            like this.

            15 front reverse kegals for 3 seconds

            15 back reverse kegals for 3 seconds

            7 front reverse kegals for 5 seconds

            7 back reverse kegals for 5 seconds

            5 front reverse kegals for 10 seconds

            5 back reverse kegals for 10 seconds

            then I do 10 5 second normal kegals


            I'm just following a routine of some guy I found on another random forum who had a similar condition to me.


            I was training hard on regular kegals a month or two ago and I didnt notice any real improvement, in fact, It's possible it made things worse. It didnt seem to change the quality of my erection during porn watching but I noticed my morning woods became weaker ( i think thats due to my relapses though) and my glans wouldnt fill during morning wood anymore..so maybe my BC muscle became too tense?

            I suppose its more likely I'll benefit from a reverse kegal focused routine. I think my pelvic floor became weak from being overweight for a long time, fapping seated for years, sedentry life style and a very, very bad chronic cough...but now instead of my floor just being plain weak, its actually become rather tense. although this doesn't effect my ability to urinate, defecate or cause me any pain. i can only logically deduce my floor is TENSE because I can maintain erections standing up in the morning and in the mornings the floor and all muscles in the body are relaxed after the sleeping and the floor tends to relax more if you are laying down.

            I guess reverse kegals wont hurt my EQ or floor anyway, the floor is always being worked out because if you are a bit heavy and walk around all day and move about it's gonna be gettng worked regardless. I do know I can shut my pee stream on and off perfectly.

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            • #7
              bump. can someone assess my new routine?

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              • #8
                I saw my doctor about my standing erection and pelvic floor concerns and he just said it's all in my head and prescribed Cialis to help me get over the psychological issue. typical GPs, trained for all those years yet they clearly still dont know sh** about male sexual health.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by shlong_master123 View Post
                  I saw my doctor about my standing erection and pelvic floor concerns and he just said it's all in my head and prescribed Cialis to help me get over the psychological issue. typical GPs, trained for all those years yet they clearly still dont know sh** about male sexual health.
                  Does your penis shrivel up when you are standing too?

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                  • #10
                    It is easier for our autonomic nervous system to maintain an erection in certain positions.
                    I have POTS which is a syndrome of the autonomic nervous system.
                    I have my best erections sitting upright on a chair or the edge of my bed sometimes I get close to 100% EQ.
                    I also can get decent erections in missionary position with my GF.
                    When I lie on my back so she can ride me I get really thin penis and I feel very self conscious.
                    The position of our bodies can either assist or hinder our nervous system and cardio system in getting decent wood.

                    I would take all the advice on this great forum, also your Dr has a point that it is pretty normal and do not get too worried. I would do everything I can exercise wise to help, go jogging try to get your cardio system really healthy. Take some supplements, I like Ginseng, Ginko Biloba..etc. Cut out the porn it's really unhealthy, it shows us an unrealistic world we compare ourselves and our sex lives too. It is bull shit and will just mess up your head even more. Cut out coffee, alcohol, drugs, shitty food..etc.

                    Please just don't worry so much that is the worst thing, find a nice girl friend she won't care about that. Go out have fun, stop looking at porn. Everything is fine! Maybe look at meditation and other stuff to help be more present and not worry.

                    I have had bad EQ for 10 years and get very self conscious, I used to have compliments about my penis size now I am average at best. But there is more to life than penis's and sex!
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by dualdimension View Post
                      It is easier for our autonomic nervous system to maintain an erection in certain positions.
                      I have POTS which is a syndrome of the autonomic nervous system.
                      I have my best erections sitting upright on a chair or the edge of my bed sometimes I get close to 100% EQ.
                      I also can get decent erections in missionary position with my GF.
                      When I lie on my back so she can ride me I get really thin penis and I feel very self conscious.
                      The position of our bodies can either assist or hinder our nervous system and cardio system in getting decent wood.

                      I would take all the advice on this great forum, also your Dr has a point that it is pretty normal and do not get too worried. I would do everything I can exercise wise to help, go jogging try to get your cardio system really healthy. Take some supplements, I like Ginseng, Ginko Biloba..etc. Cut out the porn it's really unhealthy, it shows us an unrealistic world we compare ourselves and our sex lives too. It is bull shit and will just mess up your head even more. Cut out coffee, alcohol, drugs, shitty food..etc.

                      Please just don't worry so much that is the worst thing, find a nice girl friend she won't care about that. Go out have fun, stop looking at porn. Everything is fine! Maybe look at meditation and other stuff to help be more present and not worry.

                      I have had bad EQ for 10 years and get very self conscious, I used to have compliments about my penis size now I am average at best. But there is more to life than penis's and sex!


                      I look after myself quite well now so I dont think this is a cardiovascular issue, he also said my blood pressure is fine, although it was slightly high because I was anxious when he took it and he took that into account, my weight is also healthy as well. I shouldn't be having this problem and I genuinely believe its due to conditioning of my pelvic floor, due to fapping seated for years. I know of guys who have this problem a bit worse than me but it is disturbing I cant get erect while standing up anymore, I'm only 25 years old, I shouldn't be having this issue. I also started no fap in the beginning of March and I did have several mini relapses but my real 2-4 relapses happened last month when I looked at porn and edged slightly a few times - that set me back a lot and I even stopped getting morning wood after that. Now my morning woods are back 25 days later and arousal is starting to return. Since my last relapse I decided to commit 100% to hard mode, meaning no peeking at porn, no Ming, no O unless its a wet dream, in that case I cannot help it...and DEFINITELY no porn whatsoever. That means no "checking" or testing or peeking at porn and no trying to get hard from it. True hard mode and I'll assess my progress in 90 days.

                      I've basically done every healthy thing I can, I just know this has to be a pelvic floor issue, it's absurd I can maintain a standing erection in the mornings but not at night unless I'm EXTREMELY stimulated (as in looking at porn and rubbing the foreskin over my glans, i.e, trying to reach climax). I guess I can probably maintain an upright erection fine for sex, I just need to start off in a seated position for max EQ and settle for laying down or on my side but no way I can get hard if I'm already standing up.

                      Anyway, I'm gonna continue you with my pelvic floor stretches, hip stretches, squats, Yoga and reverse kegals (70:30 and then increasing to 50:50 by end the of the month hopefully) and see how that goes for me. I did tried a good regular kegal routine a month or two ago but that didnt help me at all! I also have no problems stopping my pee mid-stream so I seriously doubt any weakness, high tension seems to the culprit. Hopefully with this new routine/life style and hard mode nofap I can get my EQ back to its old self and hopefully get my standing erections back.

                      My new GF is an absolute sexfiend btw and she is extremely attracted to me so I really dont want to disappoint her when the time comes. I wont be seeing her til mid November anyway but it'll just be awkward as hell if I have to tell her I can only get an erection if I'm sitting in a chair and then I have to quickly move my way over to her bed and then hastily put myself inside her to keep my erection going. Hopefully curing my PIED will make the process a lot easier because I imagine just seeing her and kissing her will help me stay hard long enough to transport my penis to her vagina (lol).

                      I know I can get hard in bed but the quality isn't always that good and it tends to be more of a morning thing. I suppose if I cure my PIED it should make the whole thing A LOT easier, I just want this pelvic floor nonsense sorted and I'm still annoyed my doctor dismissed it...he really believes its all in my mind which is complete nonsense tbh.

                      And wow, it even sounds like I may have POTs as well! Well I know in these last months I get dizzy when I stand up and some times I have mild palpations, I even fainted one night when I had a wet dream. I went to go clean myself up and I felt myself getting weaker then I went to the bathroom and then I collapsed onto the floor. Haven't had that problem since then and I never had that issue when I masturbated either. Mind you, I haven't M'd and O'd together since February. This standing and dizziness thing doesn't always happen though but it is somewhat often. I even mentioned that to my GP and he just kinda dismissed it. I may wait for my regular GP to come back from his holiday and talk to him more about it.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by shlong_master123 View Post
                        And wow, it even sounds like I may have POTs as well! Well I know in these last months I get dizzy when I stand up and some times I have mild palpations, I even fainted one night when I had a wet dream. I went to go clean myself up and I felt myself getting weaker then I went to the bathroom and then I collapsed onto the floor. Haven't had that problem since then and I never had that issue when I masturbated either. Mind you, I haven't M'd and O'd together since February. This standing and dizziness thing doesn't always happen though but it is somewhat often. I even mentioned that to my GP and he just kinda dismissed it. I may wait for my regular GP to come back from his holiday and talk to him more about it.
                        Hmm. If you think these concerns are 100% as extreme as you believe and not physycological. Then definitely talk calmly and explain it all to the same GP again or a different one. It can be really hard to diagnose things sometimes as most GP's have not heard of it. I would try the calm tac but ask them to send you to a specialist as you know there is something now right down there.

                        Usually with a problem with your autonomic system there is something that triggers it. Like an infection, giving birth or some trauma. Was there a starting point to the problems? Or just came out of no where. Not saying it is definitely POTS but from what you said could be any number of things. And as your GP said even stress or anxiety can cause nearly all the symptoms you have mentioned.

                        Good luck and keep looking for professional help, get to the specialists they will know much more than a GP.

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                        • #13
                          Bit of an update. I've only been doing these stretches (guides on this website and some others) and reverse kegals for four days and from 2 nights ago and this morning, I noticed my nocturnal erections where A LOT stronger, the best I've seen them in a while (apart from the start of my reboot where they were so huge it felt like dick was going to pop) and last night/this morning it actually took a lot of time for my erection to go down, VERY unusual for me...and I could actually get a decent quality erection in the morning with minimal arousal and vanilla fantasy. So either I'm recovering from the several relapses I had at the beginning of this month or these stretches and reverse kegals are actually freeing up my pelvic floor and restoring proper blood flow. I'll let you guys know how it goes over the next 3-4 weeks.

                          Another unexpected improvement is that it actually feels like the sensitivity of my penis is starting to improve too. My tense floor must have been crushing nerves.
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                          Last edited by shlong_master123; 07-28-2017, 01:55 AM.

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                          • #14
                            I didn't read the whole thread , but I had the same issues as you. The problem was: watching porn and fapping.

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                            • #15
                              You know, sometimes you can overthink a problem, (mental or physical), and you
                              only make it worse. I think, more likely, your "nerves" were crushing your pelvic
                              floor. Just joking here, but so much of what you describe and what you have
                              reported sound like you are making a mountain out of a mole hill.


                              You need to relax, man, and let it happen. If you leave yourself alone, you will
                              have more and more good days, such as you have reported above.


                              I would spend more time doing relaxation/meditation exercises, deep breathing
                              while jelqing/kegeling, etc. Stay away from porn if you use it for stimulation,
                              and try not to ejaculate too often.

                              Best of luck.

                              goin'

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