Penis Panic Du Jour!

[Pirate Retired AdministratorPEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close Pirate]

I have been very interested to see "Venous Leak" posts suddenly become rather common. I don't remember ever seeing one before a couple of months ago and now they are all over the place. I understand that the condition is extremely rare and I am sure that there are guys out there who truly suffer from it, however, I doubt that we are in the midst of some sort of epidemic.
Anyway, I remember there was some other injury fad that was all of the forums last summer or fall but I can't remember what the big scare was back then.
So my question is this: all you veterans out there, what injury fads have you seen come and go over the years? Why do they happen?

[calixto ModeratorPE Gym EditorPEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close calixto]

I have noticed these "posting fads" you speak of Pirate! I was wondering last week why no one has talked about using a what-a-grip in a while.

Well the WAG talk is back.

BTW, where is Vegetarian? Haven't seen him on here in ages?

[Going411x7 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Going411x7]

Yeah, Pirate. Wasn't it an "erect flaccid" or something like that? I think there are two kinds of fads, one caused by people lacking in experience, so whatever their perceived penile problem, (), they use it as a kind of "catch-all." And since we are all on some level phallo-centric here, I think many tend to focus on what's wrong with their penis, rather than what's right about it, following the example of 007. The other is more insidious and destructive to our site and that has to do with spammers who are trying to sell some shit (). They use the insecurities of the former group to inject their sales pitches--thus JonPop's spam war. Long live Jon Pop!!

[calixto ModeratorPE Gym EditorPEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close calixto]

Yeah, Pirate. Wasn't it an "erect flaccid" or something like that?

HAHAHAHHAHAHA, I wouldn't be surprised if I saw some shit like this, hahahahahahahhahaah, oh 411, I am LITERALLY ON THE FLOOR MAN, HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAH

we are all on some level phallo-centric here, I think many tend to focus on what's wrong with their penis, rather than what's right about it, following the example of 007.

Very good point, rep points (if I can give any more out)

thus JonPop's spam war. Long live Jon Pop!!

I wanna know more about JP's Spam wars. He is great, glad he monitors these fuckers.

[Batwoman Moderator ReservePEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close Batwoman]

I believe the earlier epidemic was the "hard flacid" one.

[Going411x7 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Going411x7]

HAHAHAHHAHAHA, I wouldn't be surprised if I saw some shit like this, hahahahahahahhahaah, oh 411, I am LITERALLY ON THE FLOOR MAN, HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAH


Very good point, rep points (if I can give any more out)

I wanna know more about JP's Spam wars. He is great, glad he monitors these fuckers.

He's our in-house warrior, Calixto. Check out the fiction section.

[Going411x7 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Going411x7]

I believe the earlier epidemic was the "hard flacid" one.

There you go, great Bat person!!

[Pegasus AdministratorPE Gym EditorPEGym Hero ☺ Admin of the Month Mar 2015 Find all posts View Profile Close Pegasus]

It seems that spammers started the venous leak scare, to discredit pe and thus sell more pills. Of course guys overworking and then posting I broke my dick posts have allways been around.

[LOL Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close LOL]

It seems that spammers started the venous leak scare, to discredit pe and thus sell more pills. Of course guys overworking and then posting I broke my dick posts have allways been around.

I literally laughed at my monitor at that one, I can totally see someone signing up to post "...guys, i think i brok my penis"

[calixto ModeratorPE Gym EditorPEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close calixto]

Of course guys overworking and then posting I broke my dick posts have allways been around.

A sad truth regarding overly ambitious "gainsayers"

[TechGuy Banned Find all posts View Profile Close TechGuy]

Trollers pushing Lin pills and surgical phalloplasty aside, there do appear to be valid posters on Thunders, MOS, here, and elsewhere reporting valid long-term injuries. Some have made the mistake of jelqing at too high an erection level or other such abuse, but unfortunately others seem to be doing nothing more than the newbie routine with moderate force. The injuries seem to fall into one or more of these categories:

1. Venous Leak. This can be minor enough to cause decreased EQ or severe enough to cause total impotence. The "warning to newbies" on Thunders was prompted by a thread by deeppurple9. He was 21, did the newbie routine for 2 months, then lost his ability to get erect. The best he could maintain was 10 minutes with 100 mg viagra and a cock ring. A rare and sad case, but his post was deemed legit, not trolling, by Thunders moderators. He also said there were a few others that were deleted from the Spanish thread. I don't think there is reason to doubt this, because his thread WAS initially deleted.

2. Firm flaccid. On Thunders there is a huge ongoing thread started in 2007. This is not a good injury to have. Some guys have had it for years and urologists can't seem to figure out what it is. Tissue damage? This also can go along with difficulty maintaining erection without stimulation, decreased EQ, soft glands, etc. One guy recently posted on the Thunders thread under the name Tinyman, an account from another member who let him use it because registration was closed. He was originally from PEGym, and has still not recovered. Here is his initial post:

https://www.pegym.com/forums/erectil...ease-help.html

3. Soft glands. There are a fair number of posts by guys reporting this condition post-PE. This includes one of the Thunder's moderators who has had this for the past month or so. Granted, the glans are not supposed to be fully hard, but they shouldn't be fully flaccid either. The reports do correspond to symptoms of guys who have the exact same condition, but due to congenital dorsal nerve leaks. One member on thunders is Yataghan50, who had surgery to correct it 3 years ago. Guys who have scaring from Peyronies have also reported similar symptoms. Here is a thread where this "rare" condition is discussed by urologists who are members of the International Society for Sexual Medicine. Note that two of them used surgery that included dorsal nerve ligation on a few cases:

Digest of recent discussions on ISSM mail (January - April 2007)

Also note that one of the doctors, Prof.Dr.Hartmut Porst, was in fact the German doctor who "softglans" had surgery scheduled with, before canceling and opting for surgery with Dr. Hsu.

4. General difficulty maintaining erection without manual stimulation and decreased spontaneous and nocturnal erections. I posted this link before on another thread. Several posters with this problem were long-time posters on MOS and thunders:

Erection problems from PE (I think)

The risks may be small, but the stakes are high, so educate yourself and be very careful. If the moderators can convince me that these are all the acts of trolls, I will be extremely grateful to them. It's sad to think of guys in their late teens and early twenties with ED problems, needing viagra, etc.

Remek: I know at least one injury thread was called to your attention on Thunders. I think it was one of the guys who hurt himself with erect jelqing. That is something that is clearly warned against. However, it might be worth some further research into cases that appear to be from valid posters, who were doing not much more than the newbie routine. Determining the cause and risk of such problems, and an honest estimate of the risk probability might make for a good "warning to newbies." I know PE works, and it may be possible to do it "safely," but not even the most experienced PE'er knows exactly how gains are produced through "tissue deformation," or whatever. There does appear to be some risk of internal scar tissue or altered vein flow. Both conditions can produce the same symptoms, and can be very hard to diagnose, or correct, even by the best urologists.

[calixto ModeratorPE Gym EditorPEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close calixto]

Wow, Techguy, man I have been wondering where you have been. Apparently you have been doing GOBS of research!

I was actually wanting to borrow some of your info on a previous post about pumping and make a cohesion of it with some of my work/thoughts/ideas about my year long use of my high quality pump.

Glad to see you back brother and I always enjoy your posts. Now if we can ever find out where Vegetarian is?

[Big Al AdministratorPEGym EditorMale Enhancement Coach Rep.PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close Big Al]

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Here's the million dollar question- what makes you so sure that these posters are legit?

I don't doubt for a second that there are legitimate injuries to be had from overdoing PE, but a majority of the strikingly similar posts being made about certain complains are not authentic. No disrespect intended, but it's not our duty to convince you of the authenticity of these posts. The mods on this and other forums have determined which posts are trolls by using very reliable intelligence. It wouldn't be sensible to post those details here.

I want to make this clear- we're not here to censor anyone, but we're often one step ahead of the trolls whose mission it is to disrupt these forums. The forum rules for members wanting to post about name-specific injuries are outlined here: https://www.pegym.com/forums/erectil...ting-here.html . These rules were created to avoid creating panic and to ensure that what these gentlemen have are legitimate complaints.

[Big Al AdministratorPEGym EditorMale Enhancement Coach Rep.PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close Big Al]

An additional note- the Beginner's forum contains a link at the very top- https://www.pegym.com/forums/beginne...much-more.html which has some very important information for anyone looking to get into PE. It contains the usual caveats as well as information on doing PE safely.

If anyone has any recommendations or additions that they'd like to add to that thread, please let us know.

[TechGuy Banned Find all posts View Profile Close TechGuy]

Here's the million dollar question- what makes you so sure that these posters are legit?

Common sense and context. I've been a support member on a different forum (not PE related), and I know all about trolls. And I agree there are posts by idiots who get their freakin thrills by scaring the $hit out of people. I'm not talking about those. I'm talking about guys who join a forum, have hundreds of sincere posts on technique, gains, etc., over a long period of time. Then they report an injury, looking for advice. Years later they still report the same thing, and have the same problem. No pill pushing, no blaming anyone but themselves, and nothing to gain. They are legitimately trying to warn people. I could give some examples if you want, but anyone interested can easily find them.

I don't doubt for a second that there are legitimate injuries to be had from overdoing PE

Of course there are, and I made that clear as well. I'm just saying that there are some who do not at all seem to be "overdoing PE."

but a majority of the strikingly similar posts being made about certain complains are not authentic.

I never said the majority were. I was referring to the class of posts, for example, like one of the moderators on Thunders with soft glans, and a bunch of other guys meeting the criteria in my first paragraph.

No disrespect intended, but it's not our duty to convince you of the authenticity of these posts.

No disrespect taken Al. I think you're an extremely intelligent guy who genuinely helps a lot of people at your own expense. That statement was made only to make the point that I do not wish my view to be correct. I sincerely hope I'm wrong, but I don't think I am.