Viagra and Cialis time taken to work

[whyyy Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close whyyy]

Hi
I have a few questions but my main one is around viagra and the time it takes to be effective. I have been using Viagra for 8 years with more success than not until recently. The first few years of use I was on 25mg, this worked extremely well within 45 minutes until about 2 years ago when I had to up the dose slightly. a year or so after I found this too was not working well unless I drank lots and lots of water (about 10 cups) this worked ok until a year ago when the Viagra stopped working within 1 hour. I persisted in taking the viagra and noticed that although it would not work within an hour or even a few hours often the next day I would experience boners. Is their anything I can do to get Viagra working again within an hour?

Its not that the meds are not working but rather they are taking a very long time to get into my system. Currently I have switched to Cialis but the same thing seems to be happening.

Testosterone and blood sugar levels are normal, I have never smoked and am not overweight in fact the ED started after I lost weight! any thoughts on that one?

[Pegasus AdministratorPE Gym EditorPEGym Hero ☺ Admin of the Month Mar 2015 Find all posts View Profile Close Pegasus]

What are the numbers on your "normal " hormone test ?

[beelzebbub Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close beelzebbub]

What dosage did you take and how often throughout the 8 years?

[Ron NB Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Ron NB]

Cialis is what I started taking recently, and I only notice the effect one or two days later and it lasts for 2-3 days .

The good thing about cialis (tadalafil) that it lasts for days but it costs multiple times more unfortunately. What I like about it that it's not just a rush for a few hours and it does not overinflate my tool, cialis does not seem like a fast acting pde5i, I find other pde5i's suitable for that.

I just started taking pde5i's every few days and everything other than cialis inflates my tool so much it gives me soreness and sensitivity that I can't get another erection for a day at least, the crazy erection I get from them put so much pressure on my arteries that I am afraid to use anything other than cialis at the moment .

I can't comment on having decreased or no effect over time, I've read many forum posts about this . Big pharma should really come up with something that fixes us , instead of keeping us addicted to pde5i's until they work.

[Pegasus AdministratorPE Gym EditorPEGym Hero ☺ Admin of the Month Mar 2015 Find all posts View Profile Close Pegasus]

Umm you guys considered trying to function without drugs?

[Ron NB Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Ron NB]

Pegasus, yes I've tried for 8 years . I found a girlfriend recently and on the rare occasions I'm going to have sex with her, I don't want to embarrass .
I'm still doing PF exercise and stretching, supplementation routine for vascular health and testosterone.

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Pegasus, yes I've tried for 8 years . I found a girlfriend recently and on the rare occasions I'm going to have sex with her, I don't want to embarrass .
I'm still doing PF exercise and stretching, supplementation routine for vascular health and testosterone.

You don't realy describe an ongoing effort to find a non drug way forward , Am I missing something.

[whyyy Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close whyyy]

Hi guys,
Pegasus, Testosterone is 17.5 nmol/L. I have tried going off the ED meds, but it just will not work. I have tried non drug methods mainly nutrition based, I find beetroot, garlic and vitamin c to be effective at times but abit hit and miss. I have yet to try the kegels etc in a serious way but I have experimented. I am also thinking of getting shockwave therapy done.

Beezlebub From memory, initially I started with 25mg This worked well for the majority of 6 years. I then upped the dose to roughly 37.5mg (I used to split one 50mg tab in quarters and take 3/4) did that until about a 6 months ago when it just stopped working within 1 hour (It would work but not until the next day). At that point I switched over to Cialis.

In terms of usage I would say about once a week every week over the 8 years.

This is really getting me down guys so I really appreciate your responses.

[whyyy Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close whyyy]

Ron NB I find the difference between Cialis and Viagra quite interesting, for me I don't get the overinflated effect you describe but rather I find Viagra effects my corpus cavernosum more than Cialis, whereas Cialis effects my Corpus spongiosum more.

[Pegasus AdministratorPE Gym EditorPEGym Hero ☺ Admin of the Month Mar 2015 Find all posts View Profile Close Pegasus]

Ok so your dick acts like it is 70Years old .
I suggest you consider natural testosterone increase methods in the NON half assed form.

Vermeulen, A. (1996). Declining Androgens with Age: An Overview. In Vermeulen, A. & Oddens, & B. J. (Eds.), Androgens and the Aging Male (pp. 3-14). New York: Parthenon Publishing.

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[Biohacker Member Find all posts View Profile Close Biohacker]

First off, I wish Viagra was an out dated thing of the past. Because science is great and there have been many advancements. I strongly suspect a cure for erectile dysfunction has been found but because Viagra is such a money maker big pharma wont allow for a cure to be put on the market because there is no money in cures only symptom treatment. But with that said I strongly suggest getting generics like "Rovatio" or compounding pharmacy products. Do us all a favor and do what you can not to line the sociopaths pockets in big pharma. One thing I can suggest that has worked for me, it is not pleasant, but can prevent emberassment, is try taking these toxic poisons on an empty stomach followed by drinking water for better obsorbtion. When I say take on an empty stomach I mean when you are like starving.

And I can clearly see that you are trying a " non drug way forward" You are taking natural suplents and doing pf exercises. Like me you dont like emberassment so I would much rather take drugs for sex as needed as opposed to something really emberassing like resorting to a vacccuum degradation device and cock ring. FUCK THAT! Give me the drugs instead. But continue to find ways to not have to take drugs in the future like clean diet good sleep plenty of water reduce stress pf exercise and whole body conditioning. Kale and beets are a great way of increasing nitric oxide levels in your body especially when combined with exercise. I put kale and beets in a blender daily and drink it. these things can greatly improve ef and make the tragic blue pill work better.

I wouldnt suggest using a vaccuum degradation device for sex. But privately in your own time when your gf is not around. Its not a bad idea to use a degradation device just to prevent you from losing penile elasticity.

I would also suggest getting a sleep study done. I was diagnosed with obstructive sleep apnea a couple years ago and began using a cpap machine. My ed was improved and energy levels got better. I use a mouth piece in liu of the machine when I have a lady in bed. I just dont find the machine sexy and I dont like emberassing shit.

Lastly in regards to diet and water intake. Try to avoid processed foods and alcahol as much as posible. Try to only eat gods foods. Read labels if there is something in the ingrediants that you dont know what it is. It is bad for. You if there is sugar in the ingrediants dont buy it. Try to eat organic as much as posible. If it cant be picked hunted gathered or milked dont eat it. Figure out your ideal body weight cut that number in half and thats how many ounces of water you should be drinkin every day. Lots of greens unlimited. Also include rice beans nuts seeds and legumes and a variety of fruits and vegetables. Replace table salt with sea salt. Use real olive oil to cook, most is fake. Grass fed non gmo meats but eat more vegies than meat.

And lastly get 4 to five rigorous work outs a week. Be consitent and dont give up even if ypu feel like there are no improvements. If you are consistent you will likely see improvements in the near future. Dont give up.

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Some of you seem to have had poor medical advice and some of you seem to be useing these drugs for reasons which are questionable medically.
I am not sure if just the possibility of not having a 10/10 eq should be a reason to take C for instance .

In the case of testosterone level typical of a 70 plus year old bad eq etc is very common . In many of these cases lifestyle change can increase eq libido etc . This has an overall positive for lifestyle and health and is cureing the actual problem rather the dealing with a symptom.

[whyyy Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close whyyy]

Thanks for all the responses guys, particular thanks to Pegasus for pointing out my testosterone is not normal for my age. I will be sure to raise this with my G.P. As for naturally increasing testosterone I already do a lot of what is suggested lifting heavy etc. Sleep could be better and nutrition could be improved although I eat fairly healthily except for 1 small treat every other day and 1 big treat a week. Not sure if I want to give up those treats! I will focus on improving sleep to begin with, adding in more testosterone friendly foods and start a serious programme of kegels. By any chance has anyone put a kegel manual for ED together as I seem to be trying to piece information together.

That will form the basis of my long term approach. Short term I am going to clean out my liver with NAC, vitamin E and Calcium d Glucarate. No cialis or viagra for abit, you know what that means guys! Hopefully that will improve my response to cialis etc for long enough to allow the long term solution a chance to work.

[Bisquick61 Senior Member Member of the Month May 2019 Find all posts View Profile Close Bisquick61]

I also suggest against taking drugs to help performance. Your body could just be getting used to it. I would definitely for a more natural way or remove stressors. Citrulline which is found in watermelon rinds is known to have the same effect as viagra and stimulate the same chemical process. Also, do you take it on an empty stomach?

[whyyy Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close whyyy]

Hi Bisquick, I am a long time user of Arginine and Citrulline though I usually just eat watermelon. I find all three very effective though don't produce a long enough effect which is why I also take the ED pills. I always take the ED pills on an empty stomach. I am hoping the kegels will do away with the need for any meds.