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- 05-24-2010 #1
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Calling for all sincere advices and expert advices!
I am currently suffering from the terrible Erectile Dysfunction so I would really like to give a good introduction of myself in order to receive more accurate advices. Please bear with me. I hope that before you comment, you can take some time to understand the entire situation.
I cannot maintain an erection during sex nor do I feel the urge of edging towards ejaculation. I was able to get a healthy erection only with foreplay, but even that wouldn’t last long.
Basic introduction:
Age: 22, Male, Asian
Diet: Average, nothing too critical, no disorder
Exercise: Light (about 2km and 1 gym per week)
Non smoker / very low alcohol consumption
Started PE exercise: 1 month+ ago
My lifestyle:
I was never fat or very fit but recently I started some body building regime and finally achieve something that can be called chest, still building something seen on those professional sportsmen (soccer, basketball etc.)
I used to be able to sleep early like 11pm (perhaps I woke up early last time like 5am). Now, I wake up about 7am but even when I purposely do some jogging to tire myself, I couldn’t sleep until 1 to 3 am.
I started taking L-arginine 1000mg/day about 1 month ago. Results? More night and morning wood (hard on) when I am on bed, nothing new apart from that.
Myself:
I lack confidence, which could also result in ED on bed.
I can be smooth, friendly and groovy at times but I fumble when my comfort zone is breached. My nerves wreck easily especially when facing a hot babe. I will get self-conscious and my mind will not react as fast as it usually does. I also get these when I am questioned, or thought others have doubts about me or words I say.
Most of the times I am able to conceal it but there are a few times it would get so bad that my cheeks shiver. I don’t know if it is obvious but nobody have ever asked about the quivering cheeks.
I spent money to get myself well-groomed. This is a positive move as I feel more confident whenever I am well dressed and prepared – but I don’t find it translating into confidence on bed. I bought new trendy clothes, accessories etc. etc. I even picked up tricks and lines, they all improved my confidence but the doubt in me wouldn’t shed.
I actually look above average or to some I look good (though not a model standard). To my own standards, it only seems satisfactory when I get myself groomed for the occasion. At least I feel better than when I don’t.
Woes/Porn/Masturbation:
I have never had a girlfriend, there were 2 separate encounters where we felt attached but we did not progress anywhere near sex.
Porn – Only until very recently that I realize this is a man-made killer. He was once my good buddy, but now a very evil neighbour that has been with me a long time.
My first masturbation occurred when I was 12. Then, there was a lack of internet access so I would let my imagination run wild. It was just an innocent yet stimulating exploration until the following year.
I started watching porn on a regular basis when I was 13 years old. It started from imagination to pictures, nude pictures to short videos, to full length videos (uncensored and censored). I began my fervent collection about aged 19 where I would almost update my database on a daily basis.
I have even masturbated in public and the excitement would bring me to euphoria, however, I have not done this for several years.
My masturbation style is simple, first type I will stroke my penis on my thighs, second is the usual hand strokes.
On average for the past 10 years, I would masturbate about 5 times per week, which is also about the number of times I watch porn.
Only until this year, I lowered the frequency to 2 or 3 per week, still banking on porn.
Just a few weeks back, everything came to an abrupt stop, when I realize I couldn’t have a proper intercourse and the highly suspected culprit is porn and masturbation. I hate it very much now. I stopped my daily downloads and completely resisted the temptation to open hot videos I’ve yet to watch. They are still on my com, hundreds of GB, but I will never in my life surrender to them again.
I just did an ED IIEF-5 questionnaire with 5 questions, my score was only 9/25 – a moderate ED, just slightly better than being severe ED. I am upset that this is happening as I always thought this is only a problem after 50s.
http://wheretobuysildenafil.com/english/buy-viagra-erection-dysfunction-test-IIEF-5.htm
I have barely masturbated over the past weeks, I don’t feel the urge anymore. In fact I would have to “force” myself to get into the mood to masturbate in contrast to what I used to call the irresistible temptation. I am able to achieve erection by reading sex stories too (no pictures at all).
My recent encounters:
Less than a month ago, I went to a body massage with extra services (only handjob). The girl, although not stunning, gave me a good hard on initially.
After the massage she proceeded to give me a handjob. It felt good. I manage to get to about 9/10, with 10 being the best erection in my entire life, in terms of length/hardness.
However, it just goes on and on with no progress. I don’t feel any closer to ejaculation, simply just feeling stimulated. After my penis adapted to the stimulation, it’ll start to die down slowly. Bit by bit, the erection quality (EQ) drops from 9/10 to 5/10 and finally flaccid. The EQ reduces during stimulation and dies down even faster when stimulation stops momentarily.
Finally, I try to get the hard on with my usual strokes, I couldn’t do it. It just wouldn’t grow, if flaccid is 0/10, the best I got was 2/10. My penis felt a little numb and any touch does not feel sensational. The girl and I were disappointed.
I was baffled so I went home and masturbate. I reached home about 3 hours later. I took out her picture that we took together and masturbated… the erection came but not as easy as my previous ones. My hands actually felt tired when I finally came. The ejaculation was different too. Before unleashing, about a teaspoon of precum came out, and after a few more strokes, the 1-2 powerful shots and several small ones came.
My usual experience is straight blasting, more powerful shots and total shots. I have never seen precum only until then.
Part 2:
So I thought it could be a problem with lack of sex. I visited a working lady (hooker) the following week after my massage.
Before my encounter, I can get so excited that I would get a hard on just by looking at the preview pictures of the girls. The night before, I check my gun by masturbating to the PONR (point of no return) using my imagination. I managed it but avoided ejaculation.
The fateful day arrives. With my daily consumption in place, I pop an L-arginine 1000mg, few hours before my encounter.
The lady look pleasant and my penis grow a little 5/10. When felliato and handjob begins, bam it hits to 9/10, standing and solid. She even said my little brother is hungry. We proceeded to intercourse.
We started with missionary, and lasted for about 10 minutes, but throughout the 10minutes I could feel I am losing it, probably a 7/10 by the end of 10 minutes. When we switched to doggy position, I lost it, did not even manage to penetrate. It didn’t turtle, just lost erection.
She said I might be tired. Actually I am only a bit tired, and if anything it would be like a 500metres slow jog. I could blame the thick condom too but I wouldn’t, I know it is more than just that.
She removes the cap and began handjob. My penis grew. I was actually draining my brain juice rapidly to do that. I was looking at her face and body, fondling with them and trying my best to think dirty (which is what works). I thought about how slutty and sexy she is etc. etc. but avoiding violence although it did flash across my mind.
My penis got back up but only just, 8/10 I would say. Once I penetrated her, it deflates again, this time rapidly.
I tried to masturbate myself again, it too felt rather numb like my massage encounter, any touch don’t feel pleasurable. It just felt casual. I couldn’t get myself erected.
She asked if I was getting anymore high and having the feeling of ejaculation. I told her no. She said she had experienced with customers who masturbates too much, watch too much porn or had insufficient sleep encountering similar problems.
Even she knows the consequences of porn. I didn’t admit to her that I was one, she don’t look too suspicious either, perhaps because I achieve a good erection initially.
Like after my massage, I went home and tried to masturbate, but this time without any picture, I use only my imagination of her. It was more difficult than usual to achieve erection and finally to ejaculate. I took longer but still manage to ejaculate. The results were the same from after massage. Precum ooze out before shooting out.
Assessment:
For 2 times, I failed to cum, it is so sad and demoralizing.
I had plans at first to find another girl after this lady. But after my session I am rocked.
Even now I still have other girls I feel like trying but I am unsure of myself. I’m worried about not being able to maintain an erection during intercourse and not blowing my nuts off. I wonder if I should continue to find again… and one day it might just work out fine?
Many of us believe practice makes perfect but if it is another failure again then I think the setback would be very undesirable. It is money poorly spent too.
It seems there is a problem with getting myself horny. My usual medicine were stimulants from porn, from all kinds of hot babes, different plays from normal sex to gang, bondage, rape. I am glad though I have never dwindled to bestiary.
I read a PUA book some time ago and find it surprising now that the porno virgin dude about 25 years old could fire off during his first sex.
I know it has something to do with the brain… it is so easy to say but so difficult to correct it. Now that I think back, I really miss those times when I could fire off so freely without any worries. I even had a crazy personal record of 6times/day, but that was when I was 13.
Some say fleshlight helps training. When I first bought it, I was so horny about it. I could cum under 5 minutes, and probably last 20 with condom. But it just isn’t the same as real sex even if I use it in familiar sex positions.
I feel so helpless. I don’t even know if seeing a doctor would help. I think they’ll just sweet talk and give some general comments. I don’t think they have any solutions up their sleeves other than drugs. If I need to, what doctor should I visit – ED doctor, psychiatrist or just a GP that has authority to sell sex drugs?
I’ve heard about wonders of Viagra, Levitra and Cialis, but they have many scary side effects (hearing/vision loss to name some). However, it seems that they work at the very least.
I felt that I’ve been forced into a corner… I have read that such drugs can get people hard on for a few hours or more. I have not done in-depth research on them as I thought there might still be alternatives (but the thought is dying as I am typing, and the overwhelming lure from drugs).
I wonder if these people will eventually ejaculate? As in do the drugs increase sensation and their ejaculating ability? Surely they have to have an end product after hours of erection right.
I wouldn’t mind taking them if that is the best option for me, or the only option for me. I was thinking if it will help if I use it short term 1-2years, and perhaps I might become more independent and don’t need it for good sex after that. Will this work? Or will I become dependent on them?
What are the things I can do to rectify myself? I find little progress if I were to just do cold turkey on porn/masturbation and let time passes.
My mood is terrible now… if I had wet eyes I would have broken down and cry.
Please help me. I feel like a baby learning how to walk. Advise me, educate, direct, guide, command, scold me… whatever you think will save me. What should I do? Regarding but not limited to masturbation, lifestyle, health, supplements, PE, etc.
I understand the helplessness and also saw some other brothers who encounter similar problems. I welcome any bro who need help to post their queries here too, and perhaps share their experience. For those who already succeeded in curing themselves can advice me.
Million thanks! Will check back soon!Last edited by sEctor-D; 05-24-2010 at 08:21 AM.
- 05-24-2010 #2
Welcome to the Gym, Sector. Have you read these threads yet? They have a number of suggestions for people suffering from porn/masturbation induced ED --
https://www.pegym.com/forums/erectil...-erection.html
https://www.pegym.com/forums/erectil...y-lead-ed.html
See also this one:
https://www.pegym.com/forums/erectil...erections.html
it sounds like you are putting a lot of strain on yourself and are making things worse by obsessing about it. Relax, this is probably mostly mental and you WILL get better. The main things you need to do are stop the porn and stop masturbating for a few days. Give it all a rest, do some reading, and don't do anything rash. It took time for you to reach this state, it will take time to recover. But there is probably nothing wrong with you that a little time, patience, and effort won't cure.
- 05-24-2010 #3
sEctor-D,
Welcome to the gym. I can on some level relate to your ED Woes and the inability to sustain erections during encounters. Before I can give you proper advice (and I may have missed this in your long but very well formatted post) I want to get some idea of the following:
1. What was the P.E routine you followed? In particular, did you kegel, jelq, and edge? Can get you get erections while standing up?
2. You mentioned something about sleep, do you suffer from Insomnia? This can definitely reduce blood flow (I've been one for over a decade)?
3. Do you use caffine on a regular basis?
4. Are you generally a worrier? (somebody who worries about things)
5. Do you know if your testosterone levels are generally high or at the level they should be for your age?
Batwoman has made some excellent suggestions for threads to look it, I highly emphasize the five G's for big erections. Look into that stuff and consider adding it to your diet.
- 05-24-2010 #4
Its admirable you took the time to go into your situation in such detail mate. Batwoman speaks total sense and NSF has fired some questions that may help you start to get this resolved. You're in the right place, theres a lot of guys on here that suffered horrendous ED issues, and they've come out the other side smiling. And theres a lot of us who suffer but are seeing improvements. Have a good look round the ED threads and try to relax, things will get better.
- 05-24-2010 #5
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Thank you for the warm response.
Batwoman:
I have not tried the 5Gs, the only products I am taking now are multivitamin, l-arginine, vitality pill (with radix ginseng etc.). I am quite sure it has something to do with my brain.I have thought that if I were to just do cold turkey on porn/masturbation (which I strongly believe I can), it could still take about a year or more before I would be able to build up pleasure during sex. For now, I am experiencing a drop in sensation as the session progresses. I will slowly adapt to the sensation and once I get used to it after maybe 15-20minutes, my little brother would die off because we don't feel high anymore. This is the time I would have to drain my brain juice to get myself horny (erected), fantasizing about exciting stuffs with the girl. It does work somehow but the erection dies off quickly as it is difficult to maintain that thought for an hour, or at least the amount of time needed to build ejaculation. My thought is I might be better off with some ED drugs, probably for 1 year - using it whenever needed, and hope I would be independent after. I have no idea if I would become reliant on it either.
NSF001:
I've adopted the JP90s, I don't think my ED has anything to do with PE, I mentioned it because I thought PE might just "correct" ED by a small %. As I am only a month old in this field, I wouldn't have experience the possible wonders of it yet. I do experience a slight gain in length 0.15"-0.2", but recent measures show that I am back to square 1.
I am able to sleep, just that I couldn't sleep earlier like what I used to. I will feel sleepy but only turn off at late night like 1-3am. I still get about 6-7hours of sleep.
I seldom take coffee.
There are some things I would worried about but I have always been quite good to deal with stress, e.g. exam stress. I am more of nervy. Sometimes I am perfectly normal and friendly, but when challenged or I feel people have doubts in me, I will get withdrawn and careful with my words and actions. In worse cases (not often) I get a flush/blush or shivering cheeks.
I thought the testosterone level should be high in me. I used to watch porn and feel I am great or could do better, especially with japan ones. But i never find that drive during sex, I couldn't build the momentum towards ejaculation like when i used to during masturbation. The opposite happens, I get from a horniness of 8/10 and drop as time passes, eventually to flaccid. I've stopped porn and masturbation for a few weeks, apart from the 2 encounters where I went home to check my gun (but did not use porn).
Thanks for encouragement Eric.Last edited by sEctor-D; 05-24-2010 at 08:17 PM.
- 05-25-2010 #6
sEctor-D,
I suggest the following to you:
1. ANALYZE: Firstly analyze the PI (Physiological Indicators) from your JP90 workouts, and see what your PI's are on the day of the workouts, night, and morning.
2. EDGING: If your PI's are good, consider "edging" if you haven't. Edging will accomplish two things. Build stamina, for your smooth muscles, and if you edge long enough it will generally keep you horny and allow you easier and more frequent erections. In all, edging should help give you with frequent and longer erections. If your PI's are bad, then reduce the workouts (or add more to it...i HIGHLY doubt that you will have to add more to Jp's workout), until your PI's are good. Also when you edge, see how long you can go for keeping your penis erect. Also, do NOT rely on PORN for edging. Try to stimulate it with your thoughts, stimulation of penis, etc. Try the routine 1On/1Off, and move up with intensity if your PI's are still green.
3. BODY CHEMISTRY: Consider getting your T-levels checked. This is important. This is also where the 5G's of erection plays in. 5G's should boost test levels, improve blood flow, relax muscles/nerves/heart, and help with tissue repair. As with any supplements, cycle this as to prevent your body from getting used to it.
4. INHIBITIONS AND DESENSITIZATION: Your last paragraph indicates that, you,on some level, are not turned on by the physical act of having sex. Yeah, I am there too and have been trying to fight it. I am glad you gave up PORN. it killed it for me with real women. So like you, I have been abstaining from porn and rely on my thoughts or on real people. Lastly, some behavioral stuff is important to be considered. Put it simply, you will get into a negative feed-back loop where your prior experiences will prevent you from having good erections during your future encounters, which in turn will effect you from having erections in encounters even further on ahead. You will have to break out of this cycle and one of the ways of doing it..is by relaxing! stop caring! Have fun! Don't worry about it!
Keep us posted.
- 05-26-2010 #7
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I went to a GP and was given the option of 20mg Cialis and Levitra. Both of the tablets cost about 15USD each, wonder if I am getting ripped off. The price is astronomical from some online med shop prices. I came back and realised it should be the patented ones, i.e. non-generic, which explains the hefty price tag. I've not bought them, but already paid consultation fee.
I'll probably try them this week.Last edited by sEctor-D; 05-26-2010 at 04:01 AM.
- 05-27-2010 #8
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I am certain that the porn damage in me is more mental than physical. I need to get myself horny instead of adapting to sensation. I've also tried Levitra 20mg half tablet.
Comparison on my experience: (scores represent hardness/length)
Without drugs:
-Felliato erection: 9/10 (15 minutes solid)
-Penetration - condom: 5/10 (lasted 10 minutes and died off, can't ignite anymore even with Felliato)
No building sensation toward ejaculation.
With Levitra:
-Fellaito erection 1: 9/10 (15 minutes solid)
-Penetration - condom: 6/10 (lasted 30 minutes, she can feel it is softer than with unprotected felliato)
-Fellaito erection 2: 7/10 (5 minutes relatively hard)
We gave up eventually, due to fatigue. My penis died off once actions stop, but I could get it up if I want to. Just that I still don't get the building feeling towards ejaculation. I went home and masturbated, took me 45mins-1hr to unleash my load, which is quite a long time. She suggested it could be the condom, but with her felliato I think I only got to 50% towards ejaculation.
I need solutions to get triggered, I can't possibly think dirty (like how slutty she is) for 1 hour. It just feels good, but not horny.
Will testosterone affect horniness or it is more of erection? Will the 5Gs release the lusty wolf in me? She wants to meet me in 2 weeks time and I am running out of wits.
- 05-28-2010 #9
sEctor-D,
Testosterone will affect horniness; it will get you hornier and this in turn will affect erection quality. The 5G intends to release the "lusty wolf" in you, and also give you stronger and longer erections. If the 5G fails to do so, then the problem may be deeper than originally thought.
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