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  1. 12-13-2020 #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaniAlman View Post
    Reverse kegels, hindu squats and all yoga stretches did nothing. I can get full when I bend my knees. For somewhat anatomical reason ? but I don't know what is that anatomical reason ? ligament ? nerve ? muscle ?
    actually i also have same problem as yours..i can get fully hard when my knees are bend .but can't get full hard when my knees are not bend..i wanted to know if yours condition has improved or if it has been cured..
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  2. 12-14-2020 #32
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    Guys one last question regarding pelvic floor, what exactly is levator ani syndrome ? I cannot find much info besides being pelvic floor tighteness ?
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  3. 12-14-2020 #33
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    The only honest answer any of us can give you is that we cannot help you.

    You are systematically going down a list of possible injuries, you have no clue what is wrong and neither do we.

    There are no internet answers. Many of the injuries you are inquiring about have different symptoms. You need to go see a medical professional because until you have an actual diagnosis you stand a greater chance of making things worse than you do of improving your condition
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  4. 12-14-2020 #34
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigO View Post
    The only honest answer any of us can give you is that we cannot help you.

    You are systematically going down a list of possible injuries, you have no clue what is wrong and neither do we.

    There are no internet answers. Many of the injuries you are inquiring about have different symptoms. You need to go see a medical professional because until you have an actual diagnosis you stand a greater chance of making things worse than you do of improving your condition
    Agreed: 100%!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigO View Post
    The only honest answer any of us can give you is that we cannot help you.

    You are systematically going down a list of possible injuries, you have no clue what is wrong and neither do we.

    There are no internet answers. Many of the injuries you are inquiring about have different symptoms. You need to go see a medical professional because until you have an actual diagnosis you stand a greater chance of making things worse than you do of improving your condition

    It is sad because this guy simply will not listen. His mind is all made up!
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  6. 01-07-2021 #36
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    The original question was that can pelvic exercise fix venous leak. The answer is no it can't. The only cure for venous leak is penis implant. You can cope with the issue with pills and injections some years but in the end they will stop working and only thing that is left is an implant.
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    Yes PF exercises can help and possibly fix it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Maxz View Post
    The only cure for venous leak is penis implant.
    b.s and highly irresponsible. Salesman for implants?

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    An implant is for very unfit people who can`t fix the underlying issues. Often going along with diabetes issues or cell and muscle issues that come along with age and/or unhealthy lifestyle. Or arterial health problems will also have an impact on the penis.


    "Venous leakage" happens to all organs. Organs are provided fresh blood via arteries and the veins transport it away. Normal!
    Same goes for the penis. It's literally the function of veins to "leak" blood out of the organ. The penis is full of veins to do that. Or else the penis would die due to stale blood.

    Special case with the penis is that it occludes the veins that transport it out of the CC's to keep the blood to maintain an erection for a limited time.
    Basically 2 ways the penis does it..

    First, the inflow and release of chemicals during arousal opens the smooth muscles that sit below the tunica and allow fresh blood to flow in via the penis arteries.
    The pressure and expanding smooth muscles push the tunica to until it can't expand anymore. That leads to the veins that transport the blood out of the smooth muscles to be closed of by the hard tunica. The veins that thread through the tunica are now closed off.
    There's still blood moving out of the erect penis but the blood moving in is more.

    Second the ischiocavernosus muscle is grabbing/squezzing onto the CC's that split into the "inner penis" behind the pubic bone which keeps the veins from leaving there increasing the systolic pressure.

    Both mechanisms work together. A failure at any of these, including the arousal chemicals, will lead to the penis not shunting off the outflowing veins properly.
    If that is due to the tunica or PF being "faulty" due to injuries that can't be fixed then maybe an implant as guy above that is the last resort. Same goes for chemicals being so off that they can't be fixed.

    Sedentary persons with bad arterial blood flow will also have low blood flow to the penis and chemical imbalances. So everything comes together there.
    A healthy human uses the legs a lot. The legs are downstream the penis which and both basically us the same "arterial circuit".

    If your PF is tight or cramped it will prevent the arteries from letting blood flow in enough amount and pressure. An imbalanced PF will also prevent the IC's from doing their work on the CC's.

    The good ol Reverse Kegel can open the arterial pathways into the penos while. A trained IC can hold more blood in the penis than an untrained IC.
    A really hard full front RK can increase the pressure too. If the tunica is healthy and the IC works properly that pressure is also kept up by the function of tunica and IC.
    Running will move the blood and workout the arteries AND will help the chemicals.

    Imo "venous leakage" of the penis is a symptom downstream of other problems. Some very easy ways like RK, Pf training, relaxation, healthy lifestyle(sleep, food, training legs) to fix these before going the operation or implant route. It's still a lot of work to do. Maybe some rather do an operation like people doing the stomach narrowing operation instead of diet and sports.
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  8. 01-07-2021 #38
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxz View Post
    The original question was that can pelvic exercise fix venous leak. The answer is no it can't. The only cure for venous leak is penis implant. You can cope with the issue with pills and injections some years but in the end they will stop working and only thing that is left is an implant.
    This is incorrect. See: Pelvic floor exercise versus surgery in the treatment of impotence

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    I guess it all depends on the cause of the venous leak. As a diabetic, pills and injections stopped being effective after five years and exercise had no effect. However, medical grade pumping worked and an implant, as a last resort, would probably work.
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    All those who have venous leak and use Google are familiar with this old publication about pelvic floor exercise and venous leak. That document is almost 30 years old and there is not any similar documentation from this century. I have discussed with hundreds of men on different ED net sites who have venous leak and everybody is aware of Kegels. Almost everybody has tried those but no one has been able to get rid of the leak. There have been some very minor improvements but no real success. Kegels might help those who have ejaculation problems but they will not help with venous leak. I have suffered about venous leak all my life. I don't have any diseases. I was born with the leak. Currently I am thinking about the implant but I am also waiting new treatments for ED.
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