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    firstly, I don't know if it is the right forum to post this, so if there is a better forum, dear admins please move this post there.

    second, I do not have a particular question in this post, there are lots of things(endocrinology, physiology and the psychological aspects of sex) in the experience that I want to talk about and, I think would be useful to guys, specially the ones who are younger than me and might have the same problems.

    so, I have had erectile dysfunction since I can remember. I also have been struggling with depressions as long as I can remember and have been on a super heavy dose of anti depressants for more than a decade now. I am also a chain smoker, overweight and barely have any good sleep(mostly due to depression). So I assume all of these factors are contributing to my ED. (important to note that depression itself can cause a significant decrease in the production of testosterone)

    It's been almost a year that I have been on Finasteride (hairloss medication). That thing killed my dick since the second day I took it. like, it has been so shrunk all this time that one would think it's a dead body's penis.( obviously this side effect is pretty rare and it happens in ppl who already have a very low amount of free T, so their body relies on DHT(a testosterone derivative, the hormone that causes the hair loss) for sexual functions and when you decrease the amount of DHT significantly(by taking finasteride) sexual functions and libido almost disappear)

    Important to note that if I dont take Finasteride for one or two days, the baseline of my ED and sensitivity goes back to what it was before Finasteride days.
    And no, this side effect is not a 'nocebo' thing, I did not know about the ED that Finasteride causes beforehand. I read basically all the existing scientific literature on the effect of Finasteride on ED afterwards.

    I watch a lot of porn, I guess technically I am addicted to it. even though I have severe ED I can still masturbate and ejaculate to porn(although I am waaay less mentally engaged to it while being on Finasteride which I assume is due to lack of libido). I donno If watching porn itself contributes to ED or not.

    It's important to note that before finasteride, I was a premature ejaculator (at least to porn).

    I am(I guess I was until today) a virgin, 34 years old.

    so my friend knows someone who is a pimp(I don't know if there is a politically correct word for this in English) and found a prostitute for me. I told him about my ED and he told me to take sildenafil and it will be okay. he is very sexually active and he always uses it.

    I also didn't take Finasteride for two days.

    on the packet of sildenafil , it says the maximum dose is 100mgs. I asked my brother who is an MD and he told me to only take 50mgs. I took 50mgs while waiting for the prostitute and nothing happened. took another 50 mgs and nothing happened.(my penis wasn't as shrunk at this point but not erect at all). took another 50 mgs and I realized it's getting a bit thicker but still no erection at all. I started watching porn and it would get erect a bit and I thought maybe when the prostitute arrives she will stimulate me enough so I could actually get erect.

    I was also very tired and didn't sleep well last night.

    before I get the next part, I should tell you that I live in Middle East and prostitutes are very scared of everything generally. Finding prostitutes also could be very difficult.

    so she arrived, very distressed. sat down, I asked here do you want any drink or something and she was like "no, let's get into the bedroom already". for some bizarre reason she didn't want the lights on . when I sat down and tried some foreplay she said "wtf are u doing, why are you not naked and putting it in already"(she was both in a hurry and was not used to anything that I was doing)
    so I put my penis in, and after maybe two minutes she was like why are you not cumming? and as she kept saying it I got less and less erect.
    Also one very bizarre thing, this was the first time I was inside a woman, and she had given me a handjob, but strangely my penis was the least sensitive I can remember.
    we kept trying multiple positions, she kept complaining about me not cumming soon enough and she eventually got disappointed and said she had to leave. at this point the desensitization of my penis was the most amusing thing to me. that Is something that I had never experienced.

    I assume this desensitization was due to her attitude, the rush she was in, her having no interest in stimulating me, lack of any actual connection. I could feel that she didn't like what she is doing and she is very scared and just wanted to get it over and get paid.
    any ways, she left and I could not ejaculate.

    I guess the only positives were that at some points when I was pushing in, she would moan, and that contradicts my insecurities about having a small penis. she was also the first woman who didn't laugh at my dick(to b exact, she didnt actually give a fuck).

    It was a very strange experience. I hope this information could be somewhat helpful.
    start: 8/2017
    FL: 2.3'', NBPEL: 5.1, BPEL: 5.5'', BPFSL: 6.2", EG: 4.3", EQ: 5/10

    Goal: BPEL: 6.5", EG: 5.5"
    gains since start date: zero

  • #2
    First of all, if you want to get over your ED problem you have to go off porn completely. I am actually surprised that you ask if porn could be a contributing factor to your ED, since the forum is full of posts about porn-induced ED. Stop watching porn for a few months to allow your brain to decondition from it and regain its sensitivity. You should also do your research on the connection between porn and ED. There a lot of material here, but you can also find many valuable videos on Youtube.

    On the prostitute situation: prostitutes are paid to have sex, so they only care about getting the job done and getting paid for it. If she worried about her safety then it makes sense that she was not focused enough on pleasuring you, but you should not feel bad about not ejaculating. Sex is not something that you are supposed to do under pressure or in a hurry (except if you are into these kinds of scenarios), especially if you have ED issues. Her attitude towards you was a big turn-off to you, which is completely normal. Hearing things like "why haven't you finished already" is definitely not what one wants to hear during sex and it can definitely lead to decline in arousal.

    If you want my two cents, focus on getting your EQ in order and don't put too much thought into the whole prostitute thing. If you feel like it's a good thing that you got rid of your virginity that's fine, but don't jump into conclusions about yourself based on that experience. Cut off porn, work on your body and you'll be on the right path.
    Progress Log
    Start (20/06/2020):
    BPEL 5.9, EG 4.1
    Current (21/10/2020): BPEL 6.3, EG 4.5

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    • #3
      By the way, porn addiction and lack of sleep are contributing factors to depression. Bad diet and lack of essential minerals also affect your sleep and your mental health. Get these in order and you will not only see a change in your physiology, but also your psychology.
      Progress Log
      Start (20/06/2020):
      BPEL 5.9, EG 4.1
      Current (21/10/2020): BPEL 6.3, EG 4.5

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      • #4
        Originally posted by southernprince View Post
        By the way, porn addiction and lack of sleep are contributing factors to depression. Bad diet and lack of essential minerals also affect your sleep and your mental health. Get these in order and you will not only see a change in your physiology, but also your psychology.

        first, thanks for the response.

        second, I think it is the other way around, I was severely depressed way before I was addicted to porn or sleep deprived. I would love to read and know more about the relationship between porn and ED and will certainly look for it.

        But to be more nuanced on this, it's an addiction and like all addictions it has its own roots. It would be much better if I could solve the roots of the problem, which are issues in life, childhood traumas and depression. There is actually significant amount of scientific research done on people with addictive tendencies and the correlation between their endorphin and dopamine circuitry deficiencies and childhood trauma. Dr. Gabor Mate is a leading researcher on this issue.

        There is also lots of data that indicates a vast majority of people who quit smoking, gain weight. they start over eating and simply change one addiction with another. but this whole addiction thing is outside the realm of this post.

        either way, I will focus on my health and sleep(not so hopeful about depression though) and obviously try to watch less and less porn.
        start: 8/2017
        FL: 2.3'', NBPEL: 5.1, BPEL: 5.5'', BPFSL: 6.2", EG: 4.3", EQ: 5/10

        Goal: BPEL: 6.5", EG: 5.5"
        gains since start date: zero

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        • #5
          If you find it hard to combat your addiction, a good solution would be to commit to others. This will create a sense of pressure coming from others to stay on track.

          You can start a log on your anti-porn journey, where you can post updates, milestones, your thoughts, etc. I've seen many logs like that here. Check this one, for example: The AP90 (Anti-Porn).
          Progress Log
          Start (20/06/2020):
          BPEL 5.9, EG 4.1
          Current (21/10/2020): BPEL 6.3, EG 4.5

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          • #6
            PE Gym is not: Prostitution Emptor Gym.

            I don't know how other guys feel about this here, but soliciting prostitution is a crime not just in the Middle East where you live, nagual65, but also here in the United States where the Penis Enlargement Gym, aka Penis Exercise Gym, is organized.

            It's also a highly questionable ethical choice even in places where it is tolerated/regulated.

            The spirit of these forums is generally to elevate men (women too if I'm not mistaken). So I think it's especially controversial to allow your post to go unchecked for its many signs that you have deep personal problems and are making self-abasing personal choices. You've posted in the past about your hatred for women due to your own perceived deficiencies so the sum total of all of this and your decision to solicit a prostitute is concerning.

            Originally posted by nagual65 View Post
            ................so my friend knows someone who is a pimp(I don't know if there is a politically correct word for this in English) and found a prostitute for me...........
            No. Pimps are universally exploitive predators and parasites. I wouldn't worry about offending anyone by using the word.

            I'm sorry you consider a guy who would connect you with a pimp to be a friend.

            Originally posted by nagual65 View Post
            ......It was a very strange experience. I hope this information could be somewhat helpful.
            Honestly, it helps me to feel ill. That is truly how I felt after reading this. It's one of the most depressing and demoralizing things I've read in a long time.

            Like some other posts I've found here lately, it also helps me to understand just how severe and complicated some forum visitors' problems are. And that these posts are flowing in from all over the world.
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            • #7
              As long as you continue to view sex as something akin to preparing for battle- instead of seeing it as a moment of bonding and pleasure- you'll continue to have issues.

              A negative experience with an uncaring partner will likely make things worse.

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              • #8
                I think you are doing things in reverse order. You can't have a good EQ or an erection if you feel like shit. First seek a good therapist, you probably won't find good one straight away so switch a few.

                Have you tried a therapist?

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by mistergeorge View Post
                  PE Gym is not: Prostitution Emptor Gym.

                  I don't know how other guys feel about this here, but soliciting prostitution is a crime not just in the Middle East where you live, nagual65, but also here in the United States where the Penis Enlargement Gym, aka Penis Exercise Gym, is organized.

                  It's also a highly questionable ethical choice even in places where it is tolerated/regulated.

                  The spirit of these forums is generally to elevate men (women too if I'm not mistaken). So I think it's especially controversial to allow your post to go unchecked for its many signs that you have deep personal problems and are making self-abasing personal choices. You've posted in the past about your hatred for women due to your own perceived deficiencies so the sum total of all of this and your decision to solicit a prostitute is concerning.



                  No. Pimps are universally exploitive predators and parasites. I wouldn't worry about offending anyone by using the word.

                  I'm sorry you consider a guy who would connect you with a pimp to be a friend.



                  Honestly, it helps me to feel ill. That is truly how I felt after reading this. It's one of the most depressing and demoralizing things I've read in a long time.

                  Like some other posts I've found here lately, it also helps me to understand just how severe and complicated some forum visitors' problems are. And that these posts are flowing in from all over the world.
                  dude wtf are you talking about? "PE Gym is not: Prostitution Emptor Gym." !!!!

                  did I solicit prostitution here? If you actually read the post I said there are things related to endocrinology, physiology and the psychological aspects of sex that might be important. If you can't understand the point of the post, that is not my problem.

                  as for prostitution being illegal, you probably know that was the case for weed and alcohol in your country right?

                  I don't believe talking about experience with a prostitute goes against the rules of this website, if it does, the admins can delete the post.

                  my decision to hang out with a prostitute is none of your business. seriously dude, get off your high fuckin horse.
                  start: 8/2017
                  FL: 2.3'', NBPEL: 5.1, BPEL: 5.5'', BPFSL: 6.2", EG: 4.3", EQ: 5/10

                  Goal: BPEL: 6.5", EG: 5.5"
                  gains since start date: zero

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by thepowerpole View Post
                    I think you are doing things in reverse order. You can't have a good EQ or an erection if you feel like shit. First seek a good therapist, you probably won't find good one straight away so switch a few.

                    Have you tried a therapist?

                    if you are talking about psychiatrist, yes, I have had many. see, just because the concept of therapy exist it does not mean that every one who is dealing with depression is going to get well. taking antidepressants for life is actually pretty common.

                    but I wasn't complaining about anything in the experience or my own life in the original post. I thought all of the data (being on antidepressants, Finasteside, having ED, watching porn, being on a high dose of sildenafil and almost complete desensitization of my penis which I think was mostly de to the girl's attitude) was worth sharing.
                    start: 8/2017
                    FL: 2.3'', NBPEL: 5.1, BPEL: 5.5'', BPFSL: 6.2", EG: 4.3", EQ: 5/10

                    Goal: BPEL: 6.5", EG: 5.5"
                    gains since start date: zero

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                    • #11
                      You do realize you shared a recipe of everything not to do.
                      The world's still a toy if you just stay a boy!

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by nagual65 View Post
                        if you are talking about psychiatrist, yes, I have had many. see, just because the concept of therapy exist it does not mean that every one who is dealing with depression is going to get well. taking antidepressants for life is actually pretty common.
                        What do you think makes your case hopeless?

                        Originally posted by nagual65 View Post
                        but I wasn't complaining about anything in the experience or my own life in the original post. I thought all of the data (being on antidepressants, Finasteside, having ED, watching porn, being on a high dose of sildenafil and almost complete desensitization of my penis which I think was mostly de to the girl's attitude) was worth sharing.
                        I know, but maybe we can help you get better, to get you off medication and more importantly for you to have a normal life. I am aware of your situation, I know you've been hurt by some girl's comments about your penis. You've been hurt by that deeply, so much that you started to hate girls and wanting to take revenge on them (I could be wrong about the last part my memory is hazy).

                        But this time with a prostitue you didn't receive any negative remarks about your penis so I consider this as a win but don't do this anymore cause it is quite bad, you are supporting in this way human trafficking.

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                        • #13
                          If I was her pimp she'd be pimp smacked and fired.

                          You never slow down, you never grow old!

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Jay1983 View Post
                            If I was her pimp she'd be pimp smacked and fired.

                            Definitely a one star rating

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by nagual65 View Post
                              firstly, I don't know if it is the right forum to post this, so if there is a better forum, dear admins please move this post there.

                              so, I have had erectile dysfunction since I can remember. I also have been struggling with depressions as long as I can remember and have been on a super heavy dose of anti depressants for more than a decade now. I am also a chain smoker, overweight and barely have any good sleep(mostly due to depression). So I assume all of these factors are contributing to my ED. (important to note that depression itself can cause a significant decrease in the production of testosterone)

                              It's been almost a year that I have been on Finasteride (hairloss medication). That thing killed my dick since the second day I took it. like, it has been so shrunk all this time that one would think it's a dead body's penis.( obviously this side effect is pretty rare and it happens in ppl who already have a very low amount of free T, so their body relies on DHT(a testosterone derivative, the hormone that causes the hair loss) for sexual functions and when you decrease the amount of DHT significantly(by taking finasteride) sexual functions and libido almost disappear)

                              Important to note that if I dont take Finasteride for one or two days, the baseline of my ED and sensitivity goes back to what it was before Finasteride days.

                              I believe these contributing factors are your problem and can all be fixed.

                              As far as hair goes, stop worrying about it. Its not hair that will help you find a women. Get in shape, try to quit smoking and these will help with self confidence.

                              Being bald, confident and in good shape will be much better for you than having hair.

                              If a pill caused me erectile dysfunction, they would be in the trash the same day I realized it unless I needed it to save my life, and even then I may toss it in the garbage and die getting laid!
                              Going an inch and 1/2 deeper than before

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