Diabetic with ED needs help, tried something and think I made it worse

[softheadned Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close softheadned]

hey guys, I need some feed back here. I think I took it too far and need to know if I made things worse. First, I am a diabetic. I became one 8 years ago. My erections were just fine before then. Then when I got diabetes, it all went to shit. When I got diagnosed 8 years ago I noticed my erections were getting softer by the month, then my doctor during the time gave me some viagra and cialis. Both worked good, then after one year, I lost my medical. That was in 2003. Since then, I have not had any medical insurance and went off the grid, and I cannot afford to pay for meds without it. Since then I have lived with very high sugar levels, usually around 400 (3 times higher than a normal person). I do not exercise as much, I probably should, and I drink 2-3 glasses of wine almost every nite, sure does not help my issue but it is what I was doing and must bring that into the factor. I also noticed that from the 3rd year and even till today being a diabetic, I cannot cum, and just a little clear stuff comes out. I hear this is called retro ejaculation. I hear from diabetes not being taken care of that retro can be caused from nerve damage. So after all this time without medical, a friend two months ago helped me get into a program to get medical and meds. So now I am back on Metformin and Glipizide. I also had a blood test done when I got medical and my doctor says my liver, kidneys are healthy and I have no nerve damage, but I am not so sure the nerve damage results are accurate, as i suffered from neuropathy for a while and it was bad and painful. However with my new medical and meds I got stoked hoping this will help my erections giving me better circulation to my penis from the meds. And yes some progress was made because when I started the meds 2 months ago, I noticed my erections were getting a tad better, and even had some morning wood, not solid, but some blood pumping in there. Some progress was being made, and my sugar levels are now averaging around 180 instead of 400. Getting more excited, I started researching more ways to enhance blood flow as well, and started taking L-Arginine (1500 to 3000mg a day), and Niacin (1000mg a day). On top of that, I started to do PE. And I also started to do the Jelqing as I heard Jelqing helps the penis grow by expanding blood vessels to hold more blood. Well, here's where I think I went wrong but I am completely not sure so this is what I did and maybe you guys can tell me if yes or no. It's even gonna sounds ridiculous. Ok, here it is: so instead of just jelqing, I started winding it up like a paper plane propeller with a rubber band, twisting it as much as it can be twisted, then holding this position by the head of my cock and pulling on it to stretch it out, thinking it might enhance the stretching of the vessels... I would pull on my cock in this position pretty freakin hard holding it for about 30 seconds for about 8-10 times a session and even rotating it in counter clockwise circular motions and opposite. I did this a couple times a day..... Since doing this twisting and pulling, my progress the last 2 months has come to a halt. Now I am getting no more erections, and no more morning wood as I have been getting since I started the meds for my diabetes. Now I have been massaging my penis lately hoping it might help. So, I want to ask you guys, do you think I must have done some internal scare tissue, blood vessel, or nerve damage to my penis that is preventing blood flow from my propeler style pulling? Did I damage something? Here is one thing, if I do masurbate, I can get a little erection going on, not much, maybe enough to penetrate in sex, but barley. So now I have been trying everything else I can do see what else can help. I am now also taking zinc 100 mg a day and Prograde K20 (to help with possible deficiency of testosterone since I heard my diabetes can cause I major depletion of it) , B1 and B6 (for nerve health) and I am thinking of getting some viagra and doing 25 mg a day for 4-6 months as I heard some people with diabetes had some success restoring there erections from this method. I also masturbate 2 twice a day and have been doing that for years all though it is soft, and I am thinking I should stop that for a while too. Cialis at 20 mg does not work for me. And my doctor has some viagra coming to me here in a week or two at 100 mgs a pill. Not sure if this will help for temporary usage but I am more looking into riding myself of Ed if possible. I am also trying to get an appointment with an urologist if my coverage can help some. Thanks for listening and if anyone has any advise, or some constructive criticism that would be nice, as I am having a hard time right now as it is. I would appreciate your supporting thoughts.

[thenewdude Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close thenewdude]

Well, ED is not uncommon with male diabetics especially if the sugar level is not controlled by diet and exercise. Hopefully, you are on a good diet and exercise regiment. The main cause is the same which causes neuropathy when too much sugar is in the blood that is too thick to go through the capillaries cutting of blood supply leading to numbness or in penile (low ED). Keep your weight low, eat right with low carbohydrates and good sugars which your body can break down easily, don't overeat but eat what you need to function, and, for the love of God, stay in shape. If you do these things then I believe that your EQ will increase and you will live with less complications. My wife is diabetic so I do know a thing or two. God bless you.

[Pegasus AdministratorPE Gym EditorPEGym Hero ☺ Admin of the Month Mar 2015 Find all posts View Profile Close Pegasus]

Pm kingpole.

[not2big Senior Super ModeratorPEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close not2big]

I have been an insulin dependent diabetic for 18 years and suffered increasing ED for 15 years. My blood sugar was somewhat out of control, but not as out of control as yours (a1c 8 - 10) until 18 months ago when I went on an insulin pump and brought my a1c down to 6.8. Unfortunately, my ED has not improved much since getting my blood sugar under control. Over the period, my Viagra dose had to be increased from 25 mg to 100 mg and I also need to use a cock ring to maintain my erection.

All that being said, there are a number of things you can do to improve your situation.

I think you should stop twisting your dick and give it a rest for a week and then start concentrating on JP's 90 day routine. Since starting PE, I have been able to reduce my Viagra dosage by 50%. Also, check out Avocet8's pumping for ED.

Check out the following websites: franktalk.org (A forum dedicated to ED) and diabetesforums.com.

While at franktalk.org, click on Treatments, then Pumping and check out the review of the Osbon cock ring. I recently started using the pink medium size and have enjoyed the hardest erection achieved in 15 years (even without Viagra (see use of supplements below)

I have achieved success in engorging my dick with the following blood flow enhancing supplements: L-arginine ethyl ester powder (heaping teaspoon about 7 gr) dissolved in a glass of green tea taken about 3 hours in advance along with an aspirin and a Maxidus pill ( primary ingredient - Radix Eurycoma Longifolia aka tongkat ali). One Maxidus pill 30 minutes in advance. This cocktail provides me with a 75% erection which is than brought up to a 95% erection by applying a tight fitting cock ring. Works for me but not guaranteed to work for you.

As you can see, I have had a lot of experience with diabetes and ED so feel free to PM me with any questions or concerns.

[softheadned Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close softheadned]

thanks everyone for your feedback. I will start looking into all of your advise and methods. I also found King Poles 5 G's formula of herbs. as well. Still wondering if anyone thinks I might have done some nerve or scar tissue damage the way I done that twisting thing. Anyone? Lots of great info here, please keep it coming!

[Dangler Senior Administrator☼ Wizard ☼ White Tiger Award 2015 Find all posts View Profile Close Dangler]

Diagnosed as T2, 26 years ago.
Control your eating & blood glucose.
Exercise every day.
Loose the wine, maybe a cup on Saturday night.
Generic metformin at Walmart is very cheap. Use the money you would spend on wine, for diabetic prescriptions, generic 30 - 90 day supply is very affordable.

If you don't get your diabetes under control, your other PE attempts will be waisted efforts.

IMHO

[not2big Senior Super ModeratorPEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close not2big]

Diagnosed as T2, 26 years ago.
Control your eating & blood glucose.
Exercise every day.
Loose the wine, maybe a cup on Saturday night.
Generic metformin at Walmart is very cheap. Use the money you would spend on wine, for diabetic prescriptions, generic 30 - 90 day supply is very affordable.

If you don't get your diabetes under control, your other PE attempts will be waisted efforts.

IMHO

Excellent advice. When my blood sugar is above 160, I can not achieve a decent erection no matter how much Viagra I take. Also, the glycogen from alcohol is stored in the liver for many hours and is later released into the blood, significantly raising your blood sugar.

[not2big Senior Super ModeratorPEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close not2big]

Still wondering if anyone thinks I might have done some nerve or scar tissue damage the way I done that twisting thing. Anyone?

Probably not. Most likely you over worked it and it needs some rest.

[softheadned Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close softheadned]

Diagnosed as T2, 26 years ago.
Control your eating & blood glucose.
Exercise every day.
Loose the wine, maybe a cup on Saturday night.
Generic metformin at Walmart is very cheap. Use the money you would spend on wine, for diabetic prescriptions, generic 30 - 90 day supply is very affordable.

If you don't get your diabetes under control, your other PE attempts will be waisted efforts.

IMHO

yes, I am mellowing out on the wine, and I walked 2 miles last night, it's a start. I do have metformin and another prescription pill I take now, since I have medical. But if something happens, good to know I can go to walmart to get metformin. By the way, would I need a doctors prescription to get it at walmart if i ever need to?

[softheadned Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close softheadned]

Excellent advice. When my blood sugar is above 160, I can not achieve a decent erection no matter how much Viagra I take. Also, the glycogen from alcohol is stored in the liver for many hours and is later released into the blood, significantly raising your blood sugar.

I am ranging around 220-160 right now. I think when I drnk wine, it would be a little higher as well. Last night I went out I purchased King Poles Five G's reccomended herbs. I was lucky because at cvs, they had all of them as a buy one get one free deal. I got close to 4 months supply of these herbs for under $50! I also got some magnesium too. To my amazement, I took my first dose mid evening last night and I woke up this morning with soft wood! Hey its a start. It could have been a combination of the exercise I did, merformin, and five g's !

[softheadned Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close softheadned]

Probably not. Most likely you over worked it and it needs some rest.

i hope so too, I wont be doing that again.

[Dangler Senior Administrator☼ Wizard ☼ White Tiger Award 2015 Find all posts View Profile Close Dangler]

yes, I am mellowing out on the wine, and I walked 2 miles last night, it's a start. I do have metformin and another prescription pill I take now, since I have medical. But if something happens, good to know I can go to walmart to get metformin. By the way, would I need a doctors prescription to get it at walmart if i ever need to?

softheaded,

Metformin is only by prescription, always tell your Dr/Primary Care Physician you want generic drug prescriptions to save money.
Most Dr's office offer a discount to cash/credit card paying "non insured" patients, you need to ask for it.
Most pharmacies, now days, offer generics in a 30 to 90 day supply, for $10 to $20.

Diabetes impairs circulation of all your organs, liver included. Red blood cells which are coated with excessive glucose cannot get to where they are needed. Neuropathy, irreversible nerve damage, occurs.
Sorry, don't mean to lecture you.
You cannot live without your liver, best to get off the wine/alcohol, your liver will thank you
Regards,
Dangler

[softheadned Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close softheadned]

softheaded,

Metformin is only by prescription, always tell your Dr/Primary Care Physician you want generic drug prescriptions to save money.
Most Dr's office offer a discount to cash/credit card paying "non insured" patients, you need to ask for it.
Most pharmacies, now days, offer generics in a 30 to 90 day supply, for $10 to $20.

Diabetes impairs circulation of all your organs, liver included. Red blood cells which are coated with excessive glucose cannot get to where they are needed. Neuropathy, irreversible nerve damage, occurs.
Sorry, don't mean to lecture you.
You cannot live without your liver, best to get off the wine/alcohol, your liver will thank you
Regards,
Dangler

Yes, good price for that. Right now, I pay around that much. It's gonna be some work to give up my wine, given I spend pretty much every weekend in Napa wine country playing guitar for events and weddings! But I believe I can because this situation is much more important. thanks

[not2big Senior Super ModeratorPEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close not2big]

It's gonna be some work to give up my wine, given I spend pretty much every weekend in Napa wine country playing guitar for events and weddings! But I believe I can because this situation is much more important. thanks

Do your best, but if you must partake, stick to white medium which has the least carbs (10.6) and alcohol (10%) per glass of the popular wines. You might want to try sparkling grape juice which only has traces of each.

[thenewdude Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close thenewdude]

Excellent advice. When my blood sugar is above 160, I can not achieve a decent erection no matter how much Viagra I take. Also, the glycogen from alcohol is stored in the liver for many hours and is later released into the blood, significantly raising your blood sugar.

Get your blood sugar in normal range (90 - 120) if possible and read the sugar and carbs on each box of food you buy. The more normal you keep your sugar the better you will be in most way for your body. You can't eat like a normal dude just like my wife can't either but she has managed to keep within normal (even on insulin). The sugar that you don't have the insulin produced by the pancreas to break down goes into your blood which will thicken. Please, take care of this not just for a better erection but because I WANT TO SEE YOU LIVE.
I understand having hyperglycemia is more fatal than just hypoglycemia because you have to deal with low and high but you can do it. Do what is right for your body.