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[litopita Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close litopita]

Jobs for the boys!

Unfortunately since I can no-longer post as much as before, seeing as many guys on here maintain "logs", I decided to create this log of mine where I will also be making some posts and updates. Stuff to do mainly with SPA, ED and male potency in general. Likewise if any one has any questions pertaining to these issues, you can post here on this thread and I will update when I pass by. This also goes to those that have been contacting me through PM, you will now either have to get me on this thread (since I have disabled PM), send me an email or just chat with me live through my signature.

PS: If you are easily "offended" by inquisitive rhetoric or shock therapy in general, you might want to just ignore this thread altogether from now on.

Shake it baby.......

[SeaCock Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close SeaCock]

You remind me of one of my best friends.

We met though a web site I was a moderator on. He had the same since (since sense cents...I don't know which one to use!LOL) of humor that you do. He would get in trouble and I would have to scold him. We always ended up laughing about it because I agreed with most of his posts, but he pointed them at thin skinned individuals. They'd flip out almost every time! They were always good points, just worded in such a way he'd get rise out of the other guys every time!

Thats why I like your posts and don't mind the way you word thing!


The only thing I don't understand is damn handle you use! WTF is up with that?

[Dangs7 Member Find all posts View Profile Close Dangs7]

SeaCock. sense would be the one you are looking for

[litopita Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close litopita]

You remind me of one of my best friends.

We met though a web site I was a moderator on. He had the same since (since sense cents...I don't know which one to use!LOL) of humor that you do. He would get in trouble and I would have to scold him. We always ended up laughing about it because I agreed with most of his posts, but he pointed them at thin skinned individuals. They'd flip out almost every time! They were always good points, just worded in such a way he'd get rise out of the other guys every time!

Thats why I like your posts and don't mind the way you word thing!


The only thing I don't understand is damn handle you use! WTF is up with that?

Yeah I know, mate. Sometimes people can be too "thin skinned" it's amazing. One time I had a kid ask for me for a refund after I told him to "grow some balls". And yet he had began making progress. He was furious at the words, while i was perplexed that he was furious...

The username Litopita is a name I use on a number of forums as a tribute to my cousin Peter Ambrose that died in Afghanistan in George Bush's war. Little petey they called him. Small in stature but brave as a lion that boy. LEGEND. Although the name peter is also one of my middle names. My avatar is Wayne Rooney of Manchester United. LEGEND...

But what do you americano boys know about football? Am talking about "real" football by the way...

[litopita Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close litopita]

I experience the exact same thing, it seems that to have satisfactory stiffness and a good orgasm you have to ejaculate almost daily, or no less frequent than every couple of days. I'm also puzzled by this since it seems that the conventional wisdom is that if you reduce ejaculation frequency erections and desire will be stronger but it's not the case. In my case I'm almost double your age.

Any other guys also have this experience?

Yeah I know. Thats why I refer to things like this not as conventional "wisdom" but rather conventional "assumption"

Frequency of ejaculation (not necessarily masturbation) is responsible for higher production of hormones and chemicals like testosterone and dopamine that are essential in libido. So the less the ejaculation, the less the libido. The more the ejaculation, the more the exhaustion. Thus the goal is to find balance. Its always to find balance.

Cheers

[SeaCock Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close SeaCock]

If you have Venous Leak and took 50mg of Viagra....would you be able to stay hard for 15 minutes without touching your penis? I loose about 50% when I'm just going down on my girl. She like instant entry after she cums...

You know my story...so I won't bother with all the detail about how I force myself to cum, but I've been wondering if I might have damaged something down there while doing what I have to do to cum...

I went to the doctor last week and told her what was going on. Thats when I found out there was not such term as Delayed Ejaculation, she just refers to it as ED. Because I can't stay hard long enough to force ejaculation. After all the blood work comes back I'm going to a urologist if the blood work is ok.

[litopita Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close litopita]

If you have Venous Leak and took 50mg of Viagra....would you be able to stay hard for 15 minutes without touching your penis? I loose about 50% when I'm just going down on my girl. She like instant entry after she cums...

You know my story...so I won't bother with all the detail about how I force myself to cum, but I've been wondering if I might have damaged something down there while doing what I have to do to cum...

I went to the doctor last week and told her what was going on. Thats when I found out there was not such term as Delayed Ejaculation, she just refers to it as ED. Because I can't stay hard long enough to force ejaculation. After all the blood work comes back I'm going to a urologist if the blood work is ok.

Eh sailor, when did you get venous leak? This is the first time am hearing you say that? Venous leakage is not as simple as guys make it seem and has to have strong physical causes. So unless you have recently been doing stuff like hanging/stretching/pumping, I don't see what trauma could have created a venous leakage. Rough sex/masturbation is not that traumatic.

And whether you have leakage or not, you CANT be hard for 15 minutes "without stimulation". Viagra is just an enabler. It enables blood flow/erection. However it does not create/force/maintain blood flow/erection. That is the role of the brain through the SRC which relies on stimulation. So losing an erection after no stimulation is expected, regardless of how many pills of Viagra you have swallowed. It does not mean a venous leak or anything like that. Constant stimulation is critical for creating/maintaining erection.

And about the female uro, that's why I usually don't trust female urologists. Their understanding of the penis is totally academic since they don't know what its like to actually have a penis and ejaculate/urinate. Delayed Ejaculation is in fact a real medical term and very common, as stated in this link. That has always been your issue as far as your profile is concerned. And so your answers will always be in how to manage DE.

The problem only comes when BECAUSE of this DE you then start failing to get/maintain erections out of "anxiety/apprehension/awareness". Then you have a problem.

[SeaCock Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close SeaCock]

Honestly I've always been able to maintain an erections without manual stimulation. I'm going down on her or kissing and touching her, but little to no contact directly with my penis. I can still kiss (passionate type kisses) my girl friend and get an almost instant erection.

With either the peak or viagra I can do it again like I could 5 years ago. Once I got hard I stay'd that way until I came or got up and walked away from the bed. Today I had an 10 EQ for no less than 15 minutes while I was going down on my girl friend. I have to stop every few minutes to stop her orgasm to prolong the stimulation. It causes her to build and build to a massive orgasm...soooo sexy when she comes!

My thinking about venous leak came because of the way I have to squeeze my prostate with my legs to force my self to cum. That is the only way I can cum now. No matter how strong I grip my friend or how hard I do it, I can't cum without squeezing my legs. I was thinking I might have damaged the base of my penis with the style of masturbation I have been doing..

[SeaCock Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close SeaCock]

Under the headings;

Causes, incidence, and risk factors:
Two things stand out;
1. Conditioning caused by a habit of unusual masturbation-yes
2. Nervous system diseases, such as a stroke or nerve damage to the spinal cord or back-good possibility!

Signs and tests
Stimulating the penis with a vibrator or other device may determine whether you have a physical (often nervous system) problem. A nervous system (neurological) examination may reveal other nerve problems that are associated with delayed ejaculation.

I have used one of those big back massagers with the two heated balls. I was able to cum with that device alone when I had one...most of the time I wouldn't have to squeeze my legs.

Expectations (prognosis)
You will have a better outcome if:

• You have a past history of satisfying sexual experiences-yes
• The problem has not been occurring for a long time-yes
• You have feelings of sexual desire-yes
• You feel love toward your sexual partner-yes
• You are motivated to get treated-yes
• You do not have serious psychological problems-I don't think so!
  
  
  All of the other bulleted points are no answers for me...
  That is where I'm at in that article...

[litopita Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close litopita]

Honestly I've always been able to maintain an erections without manual stimulation. I'm going down on her or kissing and touching her, but little to no contact directly with my penis. I can still kiss (passionate type kisses) my girl friend and get an almost instant erection.

With either the peak or viagra I can do it again like I could 5 years ago. Once I got hard I stay'd that way until I came or got up and walked away from the bed. Today I had an 10 EQ for no less than 15 minutes while I was going down on my girl friend. I have to stop every few minutes to stop her orgasm to prolong the stimulation. It causes her to build and build to a massive orgasm...sooo sexy when she comes!

My thinking about venous leak came because of the way I have to squeeze my prostate with my legs to force my self to cum. That is the only way I can cum now. No matter how strong I grip my friend or how hard I do it, I can't cum without squeezing my legs. I was thinking I might have damaged the base of my penis with the style of masturbation I have been doing..

Manual stimulation of the penis is not the only type of stimulation. There is also mental/visual/sensual stimulation from looking/feeling/smelling e.t.c That is the one that is active while you are at foreplay. But its not as effective as manual stimulation since any loss of mental "focus" can easily break the cycle (thus fluctuation/disappearance). Thus for someone with major dis-sensitization like yours, it should be no surprise. Whether Viagra is present or not.

Squeezing of the perineum and applying pressure to the prostate is a common way of increasing pleasure and quickening ejaculation. Note that the prostate is the "master and commander" of ejaculation and is among the "joint chiefs" of the erection process in general. It controls and regulates semen production and decides when it is time to release it based on how much agitation it gets. So by squeezing it you are in essence accelerating the erection process that it tends control on its own. And that's where the danger lies. The prostate is the last line of defense. By continuously doing this, you can worsen your DE to a level of resignation if you also make the prostate desensitized. So in short you are playing a very dangerous game.

To solve DE you are going to have to learn to de-escalate sensation not to escalate it. A pressure free environment will be critical to this. And it looks like you are under pressure unfortunately.

[litopita Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close litopita]

Like I said before I'm a tall big strong and decently aesthetic guy, with equipment measuring around 6+ish and so shouldn't be having mental issues, and definitely not so strong to ruin my life permanently, simply because I'm ahead of let's say 98% of the pack out there.

One of the central themes in mental deprogramming is altering our "perception of expectation". What we expect we should be doing/performing for others. ^^ Above is a recent quote from a young guy that can serve as a good example. A snapshot of a mind-frame about his sexuality. This same mind-frame is the one that ends up creating a stumbling block for himself. Because of his good looks and athletic ability, he then "expects" himself to be able perform in a certain way. And when he cant pull it off, he attributes it to something like venous leak/nutrition/iron because it surely cant be him with a good build/aesthetic can it? And thus the cycle just continues on and on with each sexual failure.

So our perception of expectation is crucial in determining how we deprogram our minds from how they are framed to more "productive" frames. Not necessarily positive. But productive.

Cheers

[SeaCock Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close SeaCock]

Squeezing of the perineum and applying pressure to the prostate is a common way of increasing pleasure and quickening ejaculation. Note that the prostate is the "master and commander" of ejaculation and is among the "joint chiefs" of the erection process in general. It controls and regulates semen production and decides when it is time to release it based on how much agitation it gets. So by squeezing it you are in essence accelerating the erection process that it tends control on its own. And that's where the danger lies. The prostate is the last line of defense. By continuously doing this, you can worsen your DE to a level of resignation if you also make the prostate desensitized. So in short you are playing a very dangerous game.

To solve DE you are going to have to learn to de-escalate sensation not to escalate it. A pressure free environment will be critical to this. And it looks like you are under pressure unfortunately.

So what 's the fix? Stop doing it and not cumming until I can cum without doing it?

SHIT! Talk about pressure! It might be years before I cum again!

[litopita Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close litopita]

So what 's the fix? Stop doing it and not cumming until I can cum without doing it?

SHIT! Talk about pressure! It might be years before I cum again!

Correct. Stop doing it. You have to learn to "rebel" against this pressure. Wait for the consequences calmly. Remember last year I asked you why you think you must cum? Remember? Is it because she is "demanding" it or is it because you want to "impress" her by coming? It doesn't matter which it is. They both have to go out the window.

And yes, depending on how advanced your desensitization problem is, it might take you a very long time to start cumming again by yourself. But that's the price. There is always a price. Shortcuts always lead to danger. Like damaging your prostate. Remember I told you about "sensate focus"? Thats the first line of physical therapy in recuperation for issues like this. But she has to be involved in the process as well. Trying to "conceal" a problem just makes it grow bigger and more dangerous.

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One of the central themes in mental deprogramming is altering our "perception of expectation". What we expect we should be doing/performing for others. ^^ Above is a recent quote from a young guy that can serve as a good example. A snapshot of a mind-frame about his sexuality. This same mind-frame is the one that ends up creating a stumbling block for himself. Because of his good looks and athletic ability, he then "expects" himself to be able perform in a certain way. And when he cant pull it off, he attributes it to something like venous leak/nutrition/iron because it surely cant be him with a good build/aesthetic can it? And thus the cycle just continues on and on with each sexual failure.

So our perception of expectation is crucial in determining how we deprogram our minds from how they are framed to more "productive" frames. Not necessarily positive. But productive.

Cheers

Love your posts, litopita. I have two questions for you. How does one deprogramme faulty perceptions or expectations? Also, what are your sexual expectations? I mean I presume you are on the right path, so I'm wondering, in your opinion what is a healthy mind frame and attititude to have about sex.

[SeaCock Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close SeaCock]

Correct. Stop doing it. You have to learn to "rebel" against this pressure. Wait for the consequences calmly. Remember last year I asked you why you think you must cum? Remember? Is it because she is "demanding" it or is it because you want to "impress" her by coming? It doesn't matter which it is. They both have to go out the window.

And yes, depending on how advanced your desensitization problem is, it might take you a very long time to start cumming again by yourself. But that's the price. There is always a price. Shortcuts always lead to danger. Like damaging your prostate. Remember I told you about "sensate focus"? Thats the first line of physical therapy in recuperation for issues like this. But she has to be involved in the process as well. Trying to "conceal" a problem just makes it grow bigger and more dangerous.

So if I get a fake vagina and masturbate with it several times a week, but no squeezing to make myself cum-that would be fine. Only cum if it happens on it's own.

Give me a refresher on "sensate focus"! I don't recall what that the details of that.