EQ and PC muscle problem, please read :)

**Anonymous7** · 08-08-2014

Hey everyone, so ill tell you everything i can remember about my "story", it can be long im sorry, but please read cause i need help :/

One year ago i started doing kegels, i already had 10/10 EQ very easily and could mantain it, even after ejaculation i could maintain my EQ, i just wanted stronger ejaculations and orgasm. I was stupid cause started doing without routine, and i did it every day almost every hour so i started doing it without even thinking, and i usually did very tight and strong kegels. I know it was dumb. When i started i could already squeeze for 1 min long and stop ejaculations.
3 Months after i started couldnt get 10/10 EQ with my GF, and started having pain and discomfort near anal muscle ( i still have sometimes, the discomfort its makes me think i have to go to the bathroom, but i actually dont) and pc muscle. I thought i needed to rest, without success i started doing RK as i had read that could help. Did it for months until i realized it wasnt helping and probably making my EQ worst. Until now ive been without PE for 7 months, but having sex/masturbating.
Now i can have 10/10 EQ but cant mantain it for a long time, even during sex my average EQ is probably 8 or 9, only 10 sometimes, and obviously cant maintain it after ejaculation as before. Pain is gone, still its a little discomfortable after i make some exercise or im anxious about it or other things. I think i have a mild case of... cant really remember the name, its when your penis is hard but not on erected state. Mine gets 0.4 inches smaller when soft and i feel like a hard tube inside. Another thing that i notices its that when i kegel, it just feels weird, i dont know if its from straining or weak muscle? But it feels like its something stoping my muscle to squeeze, it feels weird and discomfortable.
Im now on my 5th day of 1 month without sex, porn, or masturbation. Im doing cardio every morning, followed with squats, planks, abs exercises, and stretches (still couldnt find the right one for my pc muscle or the anal muscle). Im eating healthier (4-6 pieces of fruit a day) and trying to sleep 8 hours a day.

Just wanted your opinion, and if you could tell me what problem do i have (if its serious or not) and what can i do to get better?

Thanks for reading and hope you can help me

PS: Already went to a urulogist, actually the one who circuncised me, and he just said i have nothing wrong in my muscles or near the anal area, he said he was stress, what crearly isnt, because i had 10/10 EQ before i started kegeling, and im not anxious during sex.

**MrB8** · 08-08-2014

You over trained your pelvic floor muscles, like all skeletal muscles they need to rest.

A routine should include regular and reverse kegels to achieve and maintain pelvic floor balance, you can also add yoga and deep squats as they can stretch your pelvic floor muscles.

https://www.pegym.com/forums/prematu...r-balance.html

https://www.pegym.com/forums/prematu...-thats-me.html

https://www.pegym.com/forums/prematu...loor-yoga.html

https://www.pegym.com/forums/prematu...ep-squats.html

**Anonymous7** · 08-08-2014

But ive been resting for 6-8 months, is normal that i havent got my EQ as it was before?
Im a little afraid of starting kegeling and reverse kegeling :/ im afraid i can get worst. Could you give me a starting routine? And how do i know how unbalaced is my PC, and if i should do more % of kegels or reverse kegels?
Nice, the Pelvic Floor yoga its what i needed, im already doing deep squats

Thanks for the fast answer and for helping

**burtybasset** · 08-08-2014

An injured skeletal muscle may have trouble healing itself, sometimes rehabilitation is needed, if you start back slowly and gently, consider it rehabilitation instead of exercise. Maybe start with a ratio of 2:1 reverse kegel:kegel.

I'm a fan of using the meditative breathing exercises to help with relaxation and focus for reverse kegels.

https://www.pegym.com/forums/prematu...tml#post566326

**MrB8** · 08-08-2014

Originally Posted by Anonymous7

But ive been resting for 6-8 months, is normal that i havent got my EQ as it was before?
Im a little afraid of starting kegeling and reverse kegeling :/ im afraid i can get worst. Could you give me a starting routine? And how do i know how unbalaced is my PC, and if i should do more % of kegels or reverse kegels?
Nice, the Pelvic Floor yoga its what i needed, im already doing deep squats

Thanks for the fast answer and for helping

Start with https://www.pegym.com/forums/prematu...r-balance.html, it will tell you what to do.

Favoring reverse kegels stretches out the pelvic floor muscles and helps with balance.

**Anonymous7** · 08-08-2014

Ok ill start doing kegels and reverse kegels, probably 70:30 RK/K.
And start doing the RK breathing as well.
But ill only start in 2 months what do you think?, This one i wont masturbare or have sex and ill exercise my core mostly, do you think i should start with K/RK already?
If yes, can you give me a routine for 70:30 or 60:40. And should i do tight or small kegels?
I also cant understant if i need to do more front or back RK/K...
Thanks for helping guys

u have been very helfpull until now

**Anonymous7** · 08-08-2014

Ok guys sorry for bothering again but i need your help.
So, i already figured that i have PC tension, but i dont know where to start, there are so many types of kegles and reverse kegels, so many toga stretches, im so confused.
As i said im already doing cardio, squats and abs. Wich type of kegels and reverse kegels should i (if i should starting doing them now or rest a little more? and wich yoga stretches?
Should i do this : https://www.pegym.com/forums/prematu...effective.html and these: https://www.pegym.com/forums/prematu...r-muscles.html ? And should i do reverse kegels breathing during some yoga poses .

Sorry for all the quastions, im anxious ( i know i shouldnt) and just want to know what exercises are good for me, still cant understand why resting without K/RK cant fix my problem :/
Thanks again

**Big Al** · 08-09-2014

Anonymous7,

Are you still experiencing any spasming or involuntary contractions? Does your PC muscle feel stressed when you use the restroom?

If you're worried about your condition, this in and of itself can manifest into performance anxiety.

**Anonymous7** · 08-09-2014

Thanks for answering.
I dont experience involuntary contractions anymore. My pc muscle feels stressed or a little discomfortable when im anxious. I had like 3 relaxed months without stressing about it and i had a relaxed PC muscle. But still couldnt get the EQ i had before, and i still have a mild case of hard flaccid. This last 3 days ive been anxious so i feel like is something near the anal area, wich is kinda discomfortable. Still couldnt understand why resting for 6-8 months did not fixed the problem :/
I was going to start K/RK kegels tonight before sleep but im worried ill get worst. This month i wont have sex or masturbate, should i rest from kegels and only do yoga stretches and deep squats until september and start doing kegels then. Or should i start right away?
Thanks again

**Big Al** · 08-09-2014

Originally Posted by Anonymous7

Thanks for answering.
I dont experience involuntary contractions anymore. My pc muscle feels stressed or a little discomfortable when im anxious. I had like 3 relaxed months without stressing about it and i had a relaxed PC muscle. But still couldnt get the EQ i had before, and i still have a mild case of hard flaccid. This last 3 days ive been anxious so i feel like is something near the anal area, wich is kinda discomfortable. Still couldnt understand why resting for 6-8 months did not fixed the problem :/
I was going to start K/RK kegels tonight before sleep but im worried ill get worst. This month i wont have sex or masturbate, should i rest from kegels and only do yoga stretches and deep squats until september and start doing kegels then. Or should i start right away?
Thanks again

IMO, the exercise that you should focus on the most is the Stop and Start (or edging). Unless your PC issues are substantial and/or you're experiencing anxiety then the root of your EQ problems is a lack of development.

Given your previous situation, I'd be very careful with any type of kegeling. Test out any kegel routine before you go in full. Whenever you kegel, until you've mastered it use only enough contractile force to accomplish the reps. A huge number of trainees hurt their PCs by contracting them as hard as possible- that's a great way to hurt yourself!

Regarding the reverse kegel- a good way to gauge if you need to do these exercises is if your urine stream and the force of your ejaculations are weak. If so, then you can add some to your routine. The same rules apply to the RK as to standard kegels- use only enough force to accomplish the reps-for now.