Massive saw palmetto problems. Please help with advice

[Pageidol Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Pageidol]

Hello guys, ive been looking over these forums for a few months now searching for answers or advice. Basically what happened is I had abit of alopecia due to stress back end of last year so sought some advice from a hair loss clinic based in Manchester. They gave me what they referred to as vitamins to help with the regrowth and thats what i thought they were...vitamins. Upon taking them my body had a very bad reaction(Swollen glands, testicular pain, bright red face, bad guts, libido just vanished and for the first time in my life ED) and at first i put this down to a bad case of flu. I realise now this was the rise in estrogen from blocking DHT. Anyway after 3 weeks i finally worked out what was going on...i looked at these vitamins and they contained something called saw palmetto. I then researched this saw palmetto and its side effects on the web and got a massive shock. I found out that they are anti-androgenic herbs that shut down test to dht production via inhibiting 5 alpha enzyme. I wasnt best pleased and ceased taking sp immediately. I took 21 pills in total over 21 days. This was March this year. Were now in December and im still suffereing which 0 libido and struggle getting an erection. Ive had no morning wood for 6 months. Ive been deeply distressed over this and contemplated suicide. Is this likely to be permanent? Does it take time for the endocrine system to right itself? Ive had blood tests taken and my test levels are very low to at 10.5nmol. Im frightened im only 27. Has anyone else ever experienced this? Obviously sp isnt as strong as finasteride but im concerned.

Thanks guys

james

[mulkey Banned Find all posts View Profile Close mulkey]

Have you tried any nutritional supplements and herbs for men. They really work.

[pencil_puller Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close pencil_puller]

Don't contemplate suicide. The first thing you need to do is relax. When the human body is stressed out, it goes into "Fight or Flight" mode. I have found it near impossible to get an erection (day or night) when I am stressed out. Try some yoga or meditation. Google "Guide on How To Practice Walking Meditation - Taoism". Realize I am not pushing any religious views...this is stuff that helps me.

Then try these things if they apply to you:

• Stop watching porn.
• Stop masturbating (or cut back to once a week).
• Try the supplement Epimedium (Horny Goat Weed)
• Try the supplement Hawthorn

I have tried all of the above and found success. My penis went from a limp noodle to piece of granite. I recently made love for the first time since starting the above list. It was amazing! Good luck my friend.

[MrB8 Senior Member Member of the Month Nov 2013 Find all posts View Profile Close MrB8]

aboard!


I am sorry you are feeling so down like that, but we cant properly help you with those thoughts, I highly recommend editing it out of your post so we can discuss ED related issues and help you solve them. Please call 1-800-273-8255 if those thoughts are on your mind, they are better equipped to help you in that regard.


ED is treatable, PE can help you with most forms of it, and you will do yourself a big favor if you change your outlook on your life, a positive mindset will go a long way!

Thank you and good luck!

[Pegasus AdministratorPE Gym EditorPEGym Hero ☺ Admin of the Month Mar 2015 Find all posts View Profile Close Pegasus]

Your issue is medical a doc can help.

[BigO AdministratorPEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close BigO]

There is almost no chance of this happening from the doses you took. You may want to read some more articles on saw palmetto.

[thenewdude Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close thenewdude]

Your issue is medical a doc can help.

That was the best advice and response. Heck, you even get a rep!

[sexmaster Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close sexmaster]

Welcome! No worries, the mankind found solution to practically every problem we faced so far
Actually, I also used some DHT blocker couple of years ago, dunno whether it is related to my problem or not. Anyways, had my first successful edging yesterday, so happy, have been trying so many things. I use supplements and pelvic exercises. Also optimized diet and lifestyle to enhance testosterone level. I recommend Anabolic Men - Everything About Natural Testosterone - Backed Up By Science. as it covers a lot of supplements backed up by studies. Also, there are great e-books I heard great progress with lower than your testosterone to way higher than average.
Breathing is great for anxiety and depression. Take mucuna (velvet bean), which makes you feel more happy and most likely boost your test. at the same time.
Concentrate on the good things in your life, and improve the ones you are not satisfied with, but appreciate every little thing (eg. you are able to walk to take a shit)
Report back, don't settle!

[Pageidol Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Pageidol]

Cheers for the help guys. im not suicidal now so ill edit that out...I was in a pretty bad place over it. Has anybody else experienced anything like this? I recently took fenugreek actually for a month thinking it was a test booster. ..and it gave me the same symptoms as the saw palmetto. Its another 5 alpha blocker. ..doh. Also something very interesting. I've been taking triple strength omega 3 for the past 9 months. ..and have just read some very interesting stuff about how high doses of ala and epa (the acids) also act 5 alpha reductase. So im done with them too.

guys generally speaking if you create a hormonal in balance such as myself will the body generally correct itself afterwards?

thanks

[Pageidol Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Pageidol]

ill just clear all this up. It's looking abit manic. Basically took sp by mistake. ..got sides...panicked looked for supplements like fenugreek n omega 3 to improve the situation but made it all worse. Took sp march 3 weeks, fenugreek 4 weeks August, triple strength omega 3 for past 9 months. Since dropping omega 3 two weeks ago nocturnal erections which ive not had for a very long time. Its all so silly. I want my alphamale back.

[BigO AdministratorPEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close BigO]

Do you try everything you read about. Seems like your making this up as you go.

[Pageidol Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Pageidol]

afraid I over reacted to the effects of saw palmetto and tried things to speed up recovery only to get in more of a mess over it all. I just want to get back to normal. Feel like ive ended up with post finasteride syndrome symptoms or something like

[drfrankencock Senior Member Member of the Month Oct 2014PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close drfrankencock]

You should go to a regular doctor and discuss your physical problems with them. It's probably best to stop taking anything you are taking, but you should probably discuss that with a doctor as well. It sounds like you have a tendency towards anxiety, and self medicating with herbs, vitamins, or anything else is really bad for anyone with anxiety. The fact is, taking a pill, and then feeling an unrelated body sensation can cause physical problems through the placebo effect.

[Pageidol Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Pageidol]

aye I have always had a tendency to overreact and panic...this is what got me in this mess in the first place. ive stopped taking everything now so hopefully my body should balance back out....but ive been told it can take time. I haven't taken anything as harmful as finasteride so I should be ok. You guys rekon thisll be tempoary ?Thanks again

[Pegasus AdministratorPE Gym EditorPEGym Hero ☺ Admin of the Month Mar 2015 Find all posts View Profile Close Pegasus]

Anxiety is the most likely cause of your issue .
If it is physical it should be handled by a doc.