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    First off I guess I'd like to explain why I'm here and why I've just now decided to post on here. Growing up, I was never a big porn guy, but after I graduated from high school, I succumbed to my desires and spent the better part of my first 2 years in college into a porn addict, and something along the lines of a masturbation addict. This started about 5 years ago from now, and to be honest I think I have been able to sort of block most of my memories of how I used to treat my penis or try to just forgot about it entirely. But to tell you why the last 5 years of my life have been terrible and I have little self confidence left is because while watching porn, or doing other things online, I would sort of play pocket rub/pull with my penis, while being medicated under amphetamines. I would be highly concentrated on doing nothing but getting myself off while rubbing myself through my clothing, and finishing myself in just seconds with a flaccid penis. I would do this multiple times in a row, and probably on average more than 10 times in a day, probably more I can't honestly remember. I will admit I really can't explain why I did this, and at points in my life i attributed this to having a complete back covered in acne, along with my face, after being acne free for about a year. This is why I have blocked this from my memory,and I have been living in even more self pity for the last 3 years of my life.

    So, basically I want to obviously improve my libido and erection strength, naturally, and these last 2 weeks have been great. I am still a virgin, ironically! the only sexual experience I have had was a girl giving me a hand job when i was 16, and all i remember was coming no where close to climax after 10-15 minutes. I used to honestly wish i could time travel back to a younger me for exactly this reason, being as my fear/anxiety of sexual activity is immensely irregular. I don't think I know very much about penile health, but when i get an erection now, i sort of have this loose skin flaps at the base of my penis that grow erect via if i masturbate, or see something arousing. I will say I have seen things like that in porn, but my main goal nowadays is to prepare myself for sex, and save myself the embarrassment of trying to have sex because stamina is no longer in my vocabulary.

    Now I have been reading on this site on and off for the last couple months, and have tried on and off things such as jelqing, strecthing, edging, with always warming up beforehand. Most of my attempts never lasted, but about 2 weeks ago i decided most of the people with success stories probably just trial and error-ed their way to knowledge on pe, so I've tried to do the same. I think I've found my niche. I always used to look for excuses to take multiple showers and it dawned upon me to take my warm ups a lot more seriously now. Over these lasts two weeks I have pe'd every single day, no rest days, but I usually warm up 30-45 minutes, about 30 with a electric heating pad on the low settings, on top of 2-3 layers of clothes, for safety i guess, then I use a warm wet towel for about 5 minutes. Then i do the normal stretching, up down, sides, helicopter, 2 or 3 sets for 30 seconds each. Then i move to jelqing, which i really feel I finally found out how to get right. It took a couple tries but when I restarted my efforts I finally could maintain a lower level erection via only thinking of my breathing and I have cut out edging after-wards, because it's honestly just to hard for me. I keep my spirits high though, I have already noticed my soft size grow bigger, but I attribute this to my full commitment to pe, I only drink water and really try to eat healthy as I can. My main issue remains to be my EQ, although I've seen a definite infinite increase in flaccid length, and sort of girth, if i succumb and have to masturbate, I will, and now when I do it it feels even softer and wrong if that makes sense. I will also note, I don't feel any sanctification when I climax, it's almost sort of a reaction to seeing something too attracting and not being able to control my urges, which I could really use advice on keeping myself from being put in these situations. This is all porn related as well - which I have been avoiding but I still have natural occurrences, almost similar to puberty I guess, an erection might occur, always pointing downward, where I sometimes might decide to take care of it. These last couple weeks I have been able to brush these asides, but any input on thought-process, how to completely stop masturbation are eagerly awaited.

    So do I just edge anyway, or try to edge? It just seems the damage I did to myself was 99% mental and 1% physical because if i full about masturbate I can still finish myself rather quick, and forget about it if I do it with porn, which I suppose should be never watched again by myself. But other then my new-found talent at jelqing, which after reading the JP's 90 guide a second time really helped me realize my LOT and how i should jelq, I really need advice on what all the ways of improving EQ are, and anyone's suggestions on what else I need to add to my routine, alas whether or not you personally think a day of rest is mandatory, I start at the same time everyday to ensure my penis has at least 24 hours of recovery and my warm down sessions with the towel + heating pad can literally last hours now. I also add the second reason I stopped edging, other than it being to hard is because i always almost would masturbate afterward if i had any success in reaching the PONR and stopping it. Input here greatly appreciated.

    I also guess you'd be needing to know my personal goals to give me advice, so I can't lie now, I want to be bigger, a lot bigger, but the real priority still is I want to be able to please any and every women alive multiple times, if I choose. I wasn't expecting to grow almost an inch in such a sort time in flaccid length, but it is sort of concerning/weird that I can have some sort of result so quickly, but I haven't really noticed any sort of erection gain or stamina/endurance gain that I could consider notable.

    Please answer with any serious feedback/advice you think about my current situation I would appreciate greatly in any of my concern areas - edging, masturbation, warming up/down and for no reason. Also please tell me if you think using the electric heating pad to keep my genitals warm during downtime/watching TV is actually a good idea or not. Thanks in advance!
    slevinkelevra
    Junior Member
    Last edited by slevinkelevra; 12-31-2014, 10:44 AM.

  • #2
    Welcome to the forum. Lots of guys use heating pads, just dont burn yourself with it. It sounds like you have effectively trained your body to orgasm with little stimulation and to do it quickly. First, get off the porn, completely. We cant help you with that and you really need to do it. Second, quit masturbating until you can reset your mind. Once you get your mind clear, you can re-train your body to orgasm slower, you can build stamina. I would not recommend edging at this point.
    If you were getting normal erections until you got serious about PE your penis may be tired. You said you have been working on it every day and not taking breaks. Do 5 on, 2 off, or 2 on 1 off, whatever works best for you but you will need a break. Your penis will need a break, once you see normal erections or morning erections come back, continue training. PE is not a race, its a slow steady process where you encourage your penis to grow, not force it to grow in short time frame. Have you read all the beginner material? I highly suggest you spend some time reading and really understand what it is the exercises are doing.

    https://www.pegym.com/articles/penis-enlargement

    Good luck, you can do this, it works, but you must get your mind right.
    Guess I need to start keeping track.
    9.24.2013 7.1 BPEL x 5.75 EG
    11.7.2013 7.25 BPFSL
    11.23.2013 7.25 BPEL Yah!
    3.11.2014 7.5 x 5.75
    12.29.2014 7.75 x 5.75
    9.22.2015 7.75 x 6
    Looks like I need to work on length.

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    • #3
      Thanks I hadn't read this yet, could anyone try to explain better what this means

      1. Use an overhand OK-grip tightly around the base of your penis.
      2. Place your other hand in an overhand OK-grip, tightly over the area where the glans of your penis meets the shaft. Do not put direct pressure on the glans.
      3. Slowly bring both hands slightly toward each other, compressing the shaft of the penis.
      4. While the shaft is compressed, bend the shaft back and forth, to put tension along those areas to increase growth.

      I kind of don't understand the context of bend the shaft back and forth

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      • #4
        Originally posted by slevinkelevra View Post
        and at points in my life i attributed this to having a complete back covered in acne, along with my face, after being acne free for about a year. This is why I have blocked this from my memory,and I have been living in even more self pity for the last 3 years of my life.
        First of, when it comes to acne: You have to be genetically predisposed to it. Many people doesn't even encounter acne - I have even seen several bodybuilders, on massive amounts of androgen drugs with zero acne.

        It also seems like your acne developed in your teens, and that is normal since if you are predisposed to acne it is usually through Testosterone and Dihydrotestosterone. Which happen to increase drastically in the teen and later teen years.

        If you think you got it strictly from masturbation, it has to be through prolactin, which increases 5-alpha reductase and this enzym converts more testosterone into DHT. I doubt this has a significant effect. I'd say it is much more likely your acne decreases as you got less sensitive to androgen's. But if you are right in your case, you should be able to masturbate and get acne or if you get a girlfriend you should develop it after having sex a couple of times.

        Anyway, I wouldn't have blamed your masturbation for your acne without scientific evidence for it. That usually leads to myths

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        • #5
          I mean I guess your right, I have just done a decent amount of reading and had read somewhere about how when you climax your body naturals release chemicals/biochemicals that your body makes and oils and other stuff, I never really had bacne that I could recall and that was the only reason why I had said that. Nevertheless I think it was a really big reason I gradually lost more and more self esteem, at a time I really was out of control and have definitely develop physiological problems from this. When I read the Mental side of PE article I realized I was a textbook example of someone needed harder and harder porn to compensate for whatever is wrong with brain. I need to cut it out completely, I have for these last weeks, I really want to make 2015 a year of gains and abstaining from pornography. I hope I can find a solution to help out my EQ, I obviously don't want to be a virgin the rest of my life, it's just hard knowing that say, in real life, a hot girl bends over right in front of me I go boing, but my erection is straight down, and not even knowledgeable, like during puberty if it happened my pants would be climbing upwards.

          Like I said, I think it's something everyone must figure out on their own to see results, but I'd still like advice on if/when I should ever be trying to go near PONR. When I jelq, I have gotten very good at staying at where I think about is about 50% EQ, maybe less maybe more, and I get the glans pumping and hard, without ever getting in an "erect" stance. I definitely think that is why I have seen insane results in my flaccid penis, but I also have always fluctuated, whether I'm in the shower, or do a heat up session but now I stay positive and stay content when I take a trip to the bathroom and give myself a good shake.

          I'll admit, my pyschie or mind state worries me. I tend to hate myself one minute, then love myself the next, which has led to me really never stopping masturbation for more than a month, but I am determined to do so now, which is a good step. I've read on the site water pumps are good girth gainers and build stamina, would someone recommend trying one for a while, then give edging or ballooning a go? I really don't want to spend money if users haven't seen results or improvements, I understand this takes time, but i am determined to be a success.

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          • #6
            They used to tell me wacking off would make me go blind. I wacked off more than anyone and I didn't even need reading glasses until my late 40s.

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            • #7
              I caution you on wearing the heating pad for long periods of time while watching tv etc. Heat kills our sperm, and is not a problem when we warm up and down, but keeping too much heat applyed over extended time periods can be hard on us. Stay positive, and love your self, be safe and enjoy your journey.
              ALL THE WAY WITH GOOD OLE JAY!

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              • #8
                Welcome to the gym slevinkelevra!

                What Mr wishful said! Gentle warming is fine, but don't overdo it!

                I read a post by Big Al saying something to the effect of warming is good, over-warming fatigues.

                This stands to reason when you think about it, if you spent all day in a sauna you would probably be very withered (and possibly unconscious) when you came out. If you continue to over-warm/fatigue your unit, you might struggle to recover/regain your EQ as quick as you would if you just left it alone.

                Remember gaining safely is the objective here, if you PE just to get gains whatever the cost, then the price you pay could be too high! If you aim for penile health, gains should should be a natural consequence!

                At this point I wouldn't worry about everything, just listen to your body it will tell you what it needs! Pay attention to your PI's, they will be your best guide to gaining and staying safe whilst PE'ing. Beware the total load, this includes edging!

                https://www.pegym.com/articles/physi...p-penis-growth

                Congratulations for staying away from the porn, it sounded like it was doing you no favours.

                P.S. Not a criticism, but if you break up your post a little more and select an avatar for yourself, you will probably get more responses!

                Good luck, stay safe.
                "Those who know others have knowledge,
                those who know themselves have insight.
                Those who master others have force,
                those who master themselves have strength". - Lao Tzu

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                • #9
                  How hot is too hot?
                  A real man never hurts a woman. The woman came out of a man’s rib, not from his feet to be walked on, and not from his head to be superior, but from his side to be equal. Under the arm to be protected, and next to the heart to be loved. - Mrs. workin_4_it

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                  • #10
                    Thanks, I thought his advice was good too. I think that is why I was becoming frustrated the previous attempts I've had, I would take days off and start to notice random arousal occurring. That were not the outcome of anything, just plain random and I now see the analogy of the brick wall repairing itself actually make sense. I will definitely take 2 days a week off minimum now. I'll get on the avatar too.

                    When I first started, or convinced myself to try gains weren't necessary the main goal, but trying to get back the only memories I have of "healthy," masturbation I guess where I stroke fast, and I had never used porn and it took 5+ minutes, with proof of sperm ejaculating occur. I can't honestly tell you how many times I have shot a blank, in secession. The main reason for my self loathing at times of my penis is because the newly discovered term, "fat pad" on my erection can range from 1.5"-2" inches and is present while jelqing.

                    In reference to I have seen something similar in porn, I meant in an ad on a porn site, with a caption "Want to grow your penis? and how big do you want to grow?" There is a picture of a non-circumcised man, erect, with his hand at the end of his shaft, just where the glans starts. It's curious because at his base there's about 3-4 inches of shaft, where you cannot see the main vein that runs through the penis and pubic hair is growing on this part of his penis. Also judging on his picture his manhood is about 10" long. I've had the problem of really just not liking how my penis looks, I honestly never recalled this "fat pad," in the first place but i have accepted it now that I can name it.

                    Again thanks for the advice, it really seems like I was completely disregarded the rest portion, I have been reading a lot of the success stories over the last weeks, and after re-reading PESG's I think I will take his advice and stay with my very basic routine, maybe going 3 days on 1 day off after a solid amount of time in.

                    I am a terrible writer and your advice is duly noted.
                    slevinkelevra
                    Junior Member
                    Last edited by slevinkelevra; 01-01-2015, 02:06 AM.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by MrB8 View Post
                      If this is a yolo, stay in public as much as you can and try to get every girl to give you a blowjob reference I am over 9000 percent terrified.

                      Still legit advice.

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                      • #12
                        After re-reading everyone's advice and reading suggested material I have found much more than I could have hoped for on my own. I will work on self visualization techniques to help my motivation levels. If you can't tell, I enjoy reading and probably type way to much in my post but I think reading sex novels might be the most clever way of killing time and allowing my mind to visualize/content myself to only see the positive in my situation. I'm very lucky to have a 12 00 LOT, according to JP's 90 day routine, I hadn't even tested it until my last restart.

                        I played a lot of video games during these years as well, and I know this attributed to out casting myself from society, including my family and friends I had. I will take the advice of limiting computer activity extensively, and try out exercising multiple hours a day instead of browsing the internet, likely to lapse.

                        Reading suggestions are highly encourage.

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