Soy: Evil Villain or Misunderstood Hero?

[closed291 Retired ModeratorPEGym Hero Member of the Month June 2016 Find all posts View Profile Close closed291]

Dear Gymnasts,

What are your thoughts about soy?

I have read and heard about soy and the negative effects it can have on hormones in men.

Then there are those who are proponents of its health benefits (e.g. vegetarians).

So do you think soy is a villain or misunderstood hero?

Discuss.

[Tamora Retired Super Moderator Member of the Month Aug 2015 PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close Tamora]

If you like man-titties...go for it!

[jockinthebox Retired Moderator Member of the Month May 2015PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close jockinthebox]

I say "Oui"... to soy!

[Big Al AdministratorPEGym EditorMale Enhancement Coach Rep.PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close Big Al]

Here's an interesting short term study on the subject:

The effects of soy and whey protein supplementation on acute hormonal responses to resistance exercise in men.

Longer term studies might yield different results.

[jockinthebox Retired Moderator Member of the Month May 2015PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close jockinthebox]

Hmm...appears "Evil Villian" is winning.

[closed291 Retired ModeratorPEGym Hero Member of the Month June 2016 Find all posts View Profile Close closed291]

One of the foremost anti-soy experts Dr. Kaayla Daniel has her views about soy too.

You can view her Youtube videos HERE.

[burtybasset Retired Moderator Member of the Month May 2014PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close burtybasset]

Yeah, avoid it if possible. Try hemp protein if you are veggie.

[Sequoia Tree Senior Member Member of the Month July 2016 Find all posts View Profile Close Sequoia Tree]

Caveman Sequoia no like soy. Soy bad. Soy scary. It turn you into girl. But not pretty girl. Smart to fear wrath of soy.

[TheAnimal220 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close TheAnimal220]

Soy makes your peen smaller, or so I have heard.

[Jackxxx Banned Find all posts View Profile Close Jackxxx]

The problem is not only with soy by itself. Its already bad enough the hormonal changes that soy can produce, but on top of that, processed food are full of phytoestrogens already causing hormonal problems in the population. I have stated so many times from a while ago already, and I have to repeat it again because it all comes back around to the same. We, in The USA, have unfortunately the most toxic, lethal, biohazard nutrition in the planet. Basically 100% of what we eat is plain SHIT. I stay away from the main stream nutrition as much as I can, but even the water here is toxic. Even bottled water. Just the fact that the water is kept in plastic bottles is already bad enough.

In the case specific of soy, there is a new advise that came out from the naturopathic medicine community. I posted a short clip on another thread yesterday. Naturopathic doctors are recommending to avoid at all costs soy and corn. EVEN IF IT SAYS ORGANIC NON GMO. The reason is that these crops are being showered with RoundUp pesticide. Yes, the same product we can buy to kill the weed in our drive ways, is EXACTLY the same chemical used to spray the crops. And we are eating it. And it has been shown already to be highly carcinogen.

The sad part is, we know for sure the corn and soy crops are infected, but we don't know how many other products are being sprayed with the same. Organic, non organic, gmo, non gmo, it doesn't matter, everything is contaminated.

[TheAnimal220 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close TheAnimal220]

Jackxxx, have you built a bunker to hide from the lizard shape-shifter Bilderberg group yet?

[Jackxxx Banned Find all posts View Profile Close Jackxxx]

Jackxxx, have you built a bunker to hide from the lizard shape-shifter Bilderberg group yet?

No because in Florida is all swamps and sand. If I lived in solid ground I would have build one already.

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@Jackxxx

I feel what you are saying and I do my best to have our family to eat healthy as possible. Still, even with all the organic that one can consume, we in the USA are still being inundated with chem trails, electronic pollution, etc.

[Jackxxx Banned Find all posts View Profile Close Jackxxx]

And whats scary is that it can get a lot worse. It depends on the people. But the vast majority of people don't give a crap.
Sadly, from personal experience, I tavel a lot to Tennessee for business. When you go out to the towns close to the mountains, those girls have gorgeous faces. So pretty. All girls with blonde hair, big blue eyes, perfect noses, they have like their own southern beauty. However, they are ALL obese. Young pretty girls all of them with no exception physically degenerated. All chunky and round. Of course if they eat every day biscuits and gravy, bacon, fried chicken and such. Instead of growing everything themselves in that fertile land that they have, they buy shit from all the fast food places. Nobody works the land anymore. It is a sad reality. Then those people due to that catastrophic toxic diet develop countless amount of different chronic diseases. And there is the doctor waiting for them with a drug to take for the rest of their lives.

Humans dont get it. Simple as that.

[TheAnimal220 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close TheAnimal220]

Stan Efferding talks about the same subjects quite alot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTwlfazkbhs