I'm a newbie to PE Gym, but I've been reading your ideas about forming a Real PE Gym and I think it has merit... I believe several obstacles have to be addressed in order for it to catch on.
A major obstacle is convincing men and the public that it is not a gay hangout (VERY IMPORTANT).
The nudity issue is only a slight concern in my opinion - I'm a straight guy and feel completely comfortable being naked around my male friends... we all have the same equipment (more or less), so what's the big deal. Having been to a nude beach, I know that the shyness goes away in a few minutes. I actually felt more uncomfortable being dressed on the nude beach and being stared down by nudists on the beach until I got naked.
I recently read an article about the YMCA (Monkey Brothers Playing: True Masculinity--"Swimming nude was the norm 40 years ago." | Facebook). Back in the 60's, they forced all the male instructors and members to exercise and swim in the nude... many of the men who were members back then, reminisced about how they missed those days and wished they would implement the nudity rule again, they further mentioned, for many, it helped them conquer severe shyness and body issues, having been exposed to other nude men they were reminded they were more alike than different. Throughout Europe nudity among men is accepted and encouraged, why not here?... the strong message has to be “swimming or exercising with other men in the NUDE is not GAY or a prelude to SEX”. I strongly believe that North American society is slowly beginning to accept male nudity, this is evident by the popular stage show of a few years back "Puppetry of the Penis" and movies like "Forgetting Sarah Marshall" that openly showcases male nudity in a none sexual way... I think gentlement, the world maybe ready to embrace an all male nude gym (aka - The Real PE Gym).
As I mentioned above, I think this is a really good idea and really believe many men would jump at the opportunity to participate in classes involving PE Gym exercises - learning, growing and sharing successes on a personal level with other men.
Count me in, MY SHORTS ARE OFF!!!
AJP , I'm of the same mind . The male body is a wonderful creation . And we should all be appreciate what it is .
A PE gym would make sense if and when we can get our collective head out our ass of being Politically Correct .
What a crock ! We should be able to be men with out shame of being seen as perverts or un-natural .
And I personally like men . And I see the benefit of being nude with other men . And sharing exercise routines with each other . All kinds of body issues are resolved when we can be men together .
I agree with you! It is hard to find the "mature" men who would actually follow it and could convince others it is not a legal , sexual or unethical issue. In the mean time it is better to keep it private! I swim nude in the covered pool of my apartments building either early in the morning or late at night, then I go into the steam bath and continue like Adam... there is nothing wrong! I live in Mexico city, married and 42. I want my son to grow up with healthy attitudes towards sexuality and the beauty and respect our bodies deserve.
I too lived in DF for a long time. I originated this group. ALSO, I lived MANY MANY MONTHS on end at Zipolite, Oaxaca, MX.
Maelsukr is very right with what he says and should be commended.
Welcome to our group, and learning about what male enhancement entails will liberate you ajp!
I'm with all of you. I think the "fear or shame" of being naked around other guys has been programmed into our societal mindset... it has no basis. But for now, I can't image this concept being openly promoted as the religious right (sorry, not to offend anyone) would attack it in a heartbeat. I can see the protestors standing outside the gym. But maybe an underground movement will take place.
I am a gay man, I think the penis is beautiful. Although I also think various womens breasts are also beautiful, though the vagina???? err let us skip that. But in my youth I remember having to undress for gym and shower afterwards had to have been one of the most humiliating times in my life. I think the PE Gym in person would only enhance our positive outlook on life and future thus making us more optimistic in general.
I don't see how there could be an issue with a nude gym. Making it the first PE gym and not having any options for privacy would be completely idiotic, but if it's just a regular gym, or even a PE gym, what's it matter? It would just be a gym you could take your clothes off in.
I wouldn't expect record membership however, on account of homophobia. I gurantee that no matter what you said, it would be referred to as a gay hangout, and even people who didn't have an issue with it themselves would likely not go, on account of being judged by their peers.
I can also gurantee that you would have at least some creepy staring types.
I think is a very good idea.
I also think that privacy of the members must be a priority, in my case I would go but I would not like to say it out loud to my peers, it has to be something personal as PE. I don't talk to my friends about the size of my penis or tell them that I'm jelquing, I think the way you sell it must be different not a PEGYM, but a male health fitness center were you can learn to take care of your penis as well as your body. And not a gym where you learn to grow your tool.
Gym in my opinion sounds gay, y have many gay friends that love going to the gym to see other man working out or naked in the showers, so I think that this project would end as a gay center if the invitation is open to any one, I think that admission should be restricted and by invite only.
Or better yet it should not be any physical place but more like a convention, where we would go and share tips results and ideas there could be classes, conferences and different activities. We could fly from all over the world and this way it would maintain the confidentiality and privacy of the members.
Yeah.. It probably won't happen as a physical space. At least we can cam2cam with friends all over the world, on IM's like Yahoo and Skype.
It would definitely be out of the mainstream that's for sure. If there was a real PE Gym, there would have to be some very strict guidelines so it wouldn't become a male sex party. But then again, human nature being what it is, I'm not exactly sure it could work in the real world based on recent events in the news...If you cam2cam, there needs to be a certain level of trust with your PE partner and maybe discuss the PE agenda beforehand so both of you know what to expect when live on cam.
Just throwing some thoughts out there for discussion.
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