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  1. 09-28-2016 #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by burtybasset View Post
    Yep, the left seems to want larger more controlling government, its hardly liberal in the classical sense. Its authoritarian.
    The US is moving toward a hybrid form of socialism with Hillary's agenda. Our forefathers are spinning in their graves with the outright denial of the constitution's fundamental founding principles to control the size and scope of government. State's rights are going to be eliminated by the end of Hillary's reign.
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    Sad to say but Hillary won't reign.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CUSP82 View Post
    Sad to say but Hillary won't reign.
    I think it will be wonderful if she doesn't get to reign!
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    I don't care for any of the candidates, but it would feel really good to see that snob Hiliary's selfish dreams being crushed.

    If Trump wins, be prepared for unparalleled rioting in urban areas from butthurt misguided idiots who think they're doing the right thing, when we're already far past the point where there was a "right" answer to choose.
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    Sadly I think the POLLS are incorrect and she will win by a pretty big majority (greater than 5 points, I'd bet). People are sick & tired of Trump's "bufoonery" and racist commentary. Hillary is as crooked as they come (outside of Bill), but she'll win because so many (like me) won't vote for either of them. The reupublican party is so out of touch with what used to be their grassroots constituency, it may never recover, IMO.

    Abuse of power has become the mantra of presidential politics with Obama's "executive orders," just passing legislation that is contrary to the constitution and without the support of both the congress and the people. THAT'S SOCIALISM or better referred to as lording over a fiefdom, in less modern times. THAT will get MUCH WORSE once Hillary's in office.
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    I predict that a few years in, the number of people resigning their citizenry in the US will skyrocket with Hillary at the helm. That number will only be exceeded by foreign terrorists and illegal aliens pouring into our country and crossing our borders to wreck havoc with what little remains of America.

    Hate to be so "doom & gloom" everyone, but it's almost inevitable, IMO. Obama was "the iceberg" hitting the Titanic; Hillary is the Grim Reaper that will bury the constitution and further divide this country into a third-world society of "haves" (the 1%) and "have-nots" (the remaining 99%). It's too late to save democracy, unfortunately.

    Get ready Canada, you're about to have your borders "charged" by "illegals" too! They will be called America's ex-patriots!
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    Quote Originally Posted by jockinthebox View Post
    I predict that a few years in, the number of people resigning their citizenry in the US will skyrocket with Hillary at the helm. That number will only be exceeded by foreign terrorists and illegal aliens pouring into our country and crossing our borders to wreck havoc with what little remains of America.

    Hate to be so "doom & gloom" everyone, but it's almost inevitable, IMO. Obama was "the iceberg" hitting the Titanic; Hillary is the Grim Reaper that will bury the constitution and further divide this country into a third-world society of "haves" (the 1%) and "have-nots" (the remaining 99%). It's too late to save democracy, unfortunately.

    Get ready Canada, you're about to have your borders "charged" by "illegals" too! They will be called America's ex-patriots!
    You are so right. And like the Titanic, the band is playing and no one seems to care...they are clueless about the current direction of our country. Someone really needs to clean up Washington, eliminate the ridiculous wasteful spending, get focused off political correction and onto things that really matter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jockinthebox View Post
    Sadly I think the POLLS are incorrect and she will win by a pretty big majority (greater than 5 points, I'd bet). People are sick & tired of Trump's "bufoonery" and racist commentary. Hillary is as crooked as they come (outside of Bill), but she'll win because so many (like me) won't vote for either of them. The reupublican party is so out of touch with what used to be their grassroots constituency, it may never recover, IMO.

    Abuse of power has become the mantra of presidential politics with Obama's "executive orders," just passing legislation that is contrary to the constitution and without the support of both the congress and the people. THAT'S SOCIALISM or better referred to as lording over a fiefdom, in less modern times. THAT will get MUCH WORSE once Hillary's in office.
    You're also right about people being turned off by Trump's behavior. I'm hoping you're also right about the Polls being wrong...but I'm hoping of a Brexis type of error...in Trump's favor...actually in the country's favor...we'll see.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jockinthebox View Post
    Sadly I think the POLLS are incorrect and she will win by a pretty big majority (greater than 5 points, I'd bet). People are sick & tired of Trump's "bufoonery" and racist commentary. Hillary is as crooked as they come (outside of Bill), but she'll win because so many (like me) won't vote for either of them. The reupublican party is so out of touch with what used to be their grassroots constituency, it may never recover, IMO.

    Abuse of power has become the mantra of presidential politics with Obama's "executive orders," just passing legislation that is contrary to the constitution and without the support of both the congress and the people. THAT'S SOCIALISM or better referred to as lording over a fiefdom, in less modern times. THAT will get MUCH WORSE once Hillary's in office.
    I quite like Trump, he's not a politician which is a strength and a weakness at the same time and probably what many people like about him. He doesn't seem to have Hillary's ability to lie to peoples faces and is quite reactive. I hope Trump can learn to keep his cool for the other debates, because Hillary managed to put him on the back foot fairly easily when he has immensely more ammo at his disposal to fire at Hillary. I don't think he's racist either.

    I also think Trumps plans to lower taxes to encourage business to remain in the US are good. Hillary's plan to raise taxes and increase the national minimum wage will only make production outside the US more appealing. Increasing wages will ultimately increase the cost of living I feel. Attempting to reduce the cost of living would be better to stimulate the economy and help peoples money go further in my opinion. I'm no economist but this seems logical to me.

    Also Obama/Hillary's plans to do a nuclear deal with Iran is beyond stupid IMO.
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    For those that don't know it. Lincoln was the first republican president. Most blacks black Americans were Republicans. The KKK was founded by Democratats. The Equal Rights Amendment was began by Republicans and passed by Republicans. It's to bad the press can distort the past. The democrats are so embarrassed be their past, they have to lie about it.
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