Hillary's America...

[Dontrike]

But Trump doesnt have a track record of war like Hillary does. If he does start a war I will be the first to call for impeachment.

Look into what Hillary did in Libya and theres not a chance a rational person could vote for her.

Okay I'll bite, you know Trump has called for the death of families of terrorists, right? Even if they have cut ties with that person and not seen them in years. Him wanting to ban an entire religion, throwing out U.S. born citizens of illegal immigrants, and him wanting to end ISIS are all forms of war, just in different degrees.

I don't have to look up Hillary, because it is so in your face it would be impossible not to know. All I have to know is that they are both politicians, yes Trump is too now that he stepped on this stage, and politicians are scum, difference is that these two are worse than scum. She's terrible, he's terrible, that's it.

I'm going to use some invisible text as this is just another rant of mine, but please don't respond to this, any of it. I'm being serious.

Please don't respond to this, I would much rather stop talking about this stuff, especially when people can't see fault in the person they are voting for, making it impossible to have a discussion with anyone. You all think that you'll be proven right by Trump winning and "saving" everyone or Hillary winning and her doing something horrible, or vice verse, but the only people winning in this one are the ones who could only watch this triple train wreck and know cataclysmic shit was going to happen anyways, at least they ended up being right now matter what happens.

The two most hated candidates in history, yes that is actually true. None of them have talked policies at all, most notably Trump, and this whole thing is more akin to two children going "You're a doodoo head", "Nuh uh you are", "No you are", "No you" then an actual election. We know practically nothing of their plans and here people are talking about which paint smells more paint-y-er. It's fucking astonishing.

What's more astonishing is that none of you zealots on either side has decided to be humble for one goddamn moment and actually talked about the cons of your candidate, but instead try to ignore the blatant and obvious red flags each throw up, by trying to deflect onto the other candidate, but I'm going to let you all on a secret. THEY ARE BOTH TERRIBLE AND ALL OF YOU SHOULD FEEL JUST AS TERRIBLE FOR SUPPORTING THIS BUTT FUCKING CIRCUS OF AN ELECTION. Fuck!

[CUSP82]

Donnie Trump NEVER said he wanted to ban a religion. Do you just use the main stream media talking points or do you think and look things up? Do you want me to tell you what he really said? Let me know.

[Dangler]

What is the definition of political rhetoric?

Political rhetoric is essentially classical rhetoric applied to a modern political situation. The basics of rhetoric — logos, pathos, and ethos — all apply to contemporary political discussion, and specific rhetorical devices are employed to increase the effect.

Wise to never interpret campaign rhetoric as factual.
It is only used to influence fools.
Quoting rhetoric as fact, is proof of that.

Debating rhetorical statements, is akin to a dog chasing its tail; circular arguments that can't be resolved.

[dmizzle]

Would you not help a child that you did not know from being beaten by older kids? It has been said if you choose neutrality in the choice between good and evil then you are in essence choosing evil.
To allow innocent people to be brutally killed because you don't want our young men there to help protect them I feel is wrong. In that thinking why should anyone ever risk their lives to be a police officer? Why should anyone sign up to protect anyone else?

It is not our business to police the world and occupy other Countries. Its none of our business. They have been fighting holy wars for a thousand years.

Instead of having 4 thousand dead Americans in Iraq, we could be putting kids through college. Instead of trillions spent on war, we could have completely rebuilt our infrastructure. And thats just from the bullshit Iraq war.

If you want to send your kid be my guest.

[dmizzle]

Are you serious? You are either very ignorant or a complete scumbag, I hope its the former.

Syria and Libya were not shit hole countries before The West got involved. Both were very advanced societys as far as ME standards go. Everyone lived in peace before the USA got involved.

I agree we shouldn't be there. But Assad and Gadhafi were mudering thousands of people. Yes, those Countries were already shit holes. Why do you think the rebel uprising started in Lybia? It wasn't because it was such a nice place to live.

I say get the hell out of all those Countries. Let Saudi Arabia, Turkey, and Iran send their kids to die.

[CUSP82]

Have any of those nations ever sent their kids to protect the innocent? As we would wait innocent people die.

[SuperDude]

I agree we shouldn't be there. But Assad and Gadhafi were mudering thousands of people. Yes, those Countries were already shit holes. Why do you think the rebel uprising started in Lybia? It wasn't because it was such a nice place to live.

I say get the hell out of all those Countries. Let Saudi Arabia, Turkey, and Iran send their kids to die.

I would like you to cite the bolded. I dont think its true. Libya was the most advanced African nation, look it up.

The rebels started an uprising because they are Islamist Wahhabist scum that want to take the entire globe with their version of Islam. It was a fight for Sharia Law, not democracy. Do a little more research on the topic and you might be surprised to find out that the MSM narrative was not true.

[dmizzle]

I would like you to cite the bolded. I dont think its true. Libya was the most advanced African nation, look it up.

The rebels started an uprising because they are Islamist Wahhabist scum that want to take the entire globe with their version of Islam. It was a fight for Sharia Law, not democracy. Do a little more research on the topic and you might be surprised to find out that the MSM narrative was not true.

I will cite off the top of my head that Assad used chemical weapons on his own people killing who knows how many women and children. That was just one single instance.

But the fact is I agree with you. We should not have intervened. We need to stop intervening in other Country's problems. We have plenty of our own problems.

The amount of money spent on these foreign wars in one month could pay for every kid to go to college. Instead we piss it away fighting a religious ideal that cannot be beat on the battlefield.

[Paracletus]

Dinesh D'Souza, the guy who made this movie, is such a goof. He is a convicted felon who tried to downplay his dirty deed by making it look like he went to prison because the Democrats were trying to shut him down from speaking the "truth"; he plead guilty to illegally contributing campaign funds to a Republican Senate candidate -in both his ex-wife AND mistress' name. He would have served a sentence in an actual prison but served eight months in a correctional facility near his home in San Diego and had the balls to laugh it up about his sentencing on national television.

Speaking about his ex-wife, she alleges:

During the sentencing hearing, a letter from his ex-wife was read in which she stated, "It is my former husband who has an abusive nature. In one instance, it was my husband who physically abused me in April 2012 when he, using his purple belt karate skills,^[7] kicked me in the head and shoulder, knocking me to the ground and creating injuries that pain me to this day."^[8]

He continuously gets owned in debates about religion and when he speaks out against atheism and evolutionary biology (of which he has no grasp of whatsoever while publicly embarrassing himself trying to refute what even your typical high-school biology student could better explain and successfully defend). I love how Dinesh D'Souza also avoided elaborating on The Southern Strategy (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_strategy).

Believe what you want about either candidate but seriously take what Dinesh Douchebag D'Souza has to say with a grain of salt. The guy is an idiot, a puppet of the Republican Party when they want to use minorities for their Anti Democrat smear campaigns (along with the rest of those clowns like Bobby Jindal and Ben Carson).

Both candidates are awful, but D'Souza, the maker of this movie is a scumbag.

[Paracletus]

Donnie Trump NEVER said he wanted to ban a religion. Do you just use the main stream media talking points or do you think and look things up? Do you want me to tell you what he really said? Let me know.

To the cheer of many at that rally, he said:

Donald J. Trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country's representatives can figure out what is going on.

What does that sound like? Especially with the level of fervent Islamophobia overtaking the North American, Australian, and European continents, that kind of rehtoric is DANGEROUS especially when dealing with a bunch of xenophobic and culturally ignorant people which there is no shortage of. Do you remember how members of the Sikh community were targeted after 9/11 because some people had an imprinted image of Osama Bin Laden with a rag on his head and wrongfully associated that image with the turban worn by Sikhs.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/07/history-of-hate-crimes-against-sikhs-since-911_n_1751841.html


Yes we know that ISIL is hiding among refugees, but he did not specify on putting a HOLD on incoming refugees until a stricter and more effective vetting process was put into place in order to avoid letting in jihadists into the country. Instead he singled out an entire religion- he said with his own poorly chosen words "SHUTDOWN OF MUSLIMS ENTERING THE UNITED STATES".