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  1. 09-29-2016 #41
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    Dmizzle, I was not originally a trump supporter, I was behind Cruz. But you need to listen to this closely. Stop listening to ALL main street media outlets including fox. The media in this country is the real problem and you're being led like a sheep. I will never convince you in one post on PEGym. However you sound young and idealistic but if you stepped back and looked at everything surrounding the Clintons you would actually see how well they've been protected and how many scandals they are tied to. Not made up conspiracies, you couldn't be more wrong but its not your fault, it is the media directing a phony narrative.
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  2. 09-29-2016 #42
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    Since I'm not an American, I only have a dispassionate opinion on this, but, I think Americans in general are tired of the same old shit, over and over and over.

    Why is it that every 8 years, there seems to be some crisis that only a new president can fix? Why can't things just be good and solid in America?

    When it comes to hilary, I honestly have zero knowledge about the Bhengazi thing. I know that nobody is perfect, and when you make mistakes at the highest level, well, your gonna get a lot of flack for it. However, she was investigated by the FBI over the email scandal, and if it were just a normal person, you guys damn well know that person would have bare minimum lost their job and possibly got prison time in addition.

    Hilary gets a free pass, and with all the allegations of corruption in the US government, that does her no favors and makes me think she can't be trusted, in addition to the way she's flip flopped on issues throughout the years. I feel like Hilary is that aunt that doesn't like you, knows that you know she doesn't like you, but treats like a stupid ass kid anyways, never telling the truth.

    Trump on the other hand is a complete wild card. I think he could be one of the best presidents ever seen, or actually be the WORST there has ever been. But sometimes you gotta take a leap of faith and my gut tells me that I'd rather trust Donald Trump, than be sold the same snickers bar they always have in a new fancy package which is what Americans will get with Hilary Clinton.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dmizzle View Post

    When in fact, although its not criminal, Trump brags about not paying hard working people or paying taxes. Or ripping off college kids. And he is just going to make it easier for his rich friends to not pay taxes. But he is the smart one.
    YOUR words^^^NOT mine! I'm not voting for "The Donald" either!

    Btw, got any comments on all the "incidental DEATHS" in the wake of the Clinton's rise to and excessive grip to retain their power?
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    They spent Millions on the investigation is total spin. Really millions? You must be listening to Liberal Democrat Elijah Cumming’s talking points. Were Private Investigative Contractors used? Overtime? If you work for the government you get paid regardless.

    As to Trumps Bank Bankruptcies . . . all 4 were Chapter 11.
    Fact-checking claims about Donald Trump's four bankruptcies | PolitiFact

    Have you flown on American Airlines, Mexicana, Aloha Airlines, Delta Air Lines, Northwest Airlines, US Airways, Air Canada, or United Airlines? They All declared Chapter 11! Please do not tell us you fly on any of those EVIL Airlines.

    Emails? First Hillary signed a document regarding the rules and regulations of the use of email when at the State Department. Oh but she "Cannot Recall" is her excuse. And ALL five of her aids were given immunity from prosecution by the FBI. During Congressional testimony the ALL invoked their Fifth Amendment right to not self-incriminate. Two Ignored Congressional Subpoenas. Oh and do ANY of Hillary's Attorneys have Top Secret Security Clearance to be looking at Hillary’s emails and which of the 33,000 Emails to Delete? NOT! Oh then your Private IT team uses Bleach Bit to make sure the American People cannot get the truth.

    The FBI was unable to obtain any of the Blackberry mobile devices Clinton used while heading the Department of State.

    Clinton had 13 mobile devices that she potentially used to access emails on her private clintonemail.com server based out of her Chappaqua, New York home. At least eight of these mobile devices were used while she was secretary of state, but Clinton’s lawyers were unable to find any of them.

    Clinton aides told FBI investigators the former diplomat went through phones often, and the “where abouts” of her old phones would become unknown once she switched to a new device.

    FBI Documented Clinton’s Aide’s Destroyed Hillary’s Old Phones WITH A HAMMER!

    FBI Docs: Aide Destroyed Hillary?s Old Phones With A HAMMER | The Daily Caller

    Hillary Clinton much like her old boss Barak Obama . . . She will be the MOST TRANSPARENT PRESIDENT in the History of these United States of America.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jockinthebox View Post
    Any questions now, dmizzle?
    My question is why did you format it so poorly? I thought it was a series of haikus the way it looked, it was practically unreadable.

    Quote Originally Posted by dmizzle View Post
    Im curious what makes Hillary such a crook. You guys are still bringing up Benghazi when Republicans have spent millions of tax dollars only to find she did nothing wrong. She didn't lie about anything. What makes her crooked? And spending millions digging through emails? For what? What are they looking for? All they are doing is digging and digging hoping they find something.
    I'm sure whatever she has and is doing was/is certainly illegal, just because some people said she didn't do anything wrong doesn't mean she didn't, the same can be done with murderers or people who clearly did something illegal, but got off scott free.

    The thing is though I'm sure Trump has done the same kind of shit, minus military issues, if not worse in those areas. I just know I would rather take a liar who is going to have the eyes of everyone on her, even more so than the past, than Trump who could easily do the craziest thing and people would eat it up and praise him for it. When you know someone is a liar at least you know what you're getting into, but Trump is a crazy man and none of us know of the depths he is willing to go.
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    During Monday's debate, the Democratic nominee charged that Donald Trump referred to the ex-beauty queen as "Miss Piggy" after she gained over 50 pounds following her 1996 victory in the Miss Universe Pageant.

    Clinton campaign might be kicking themselves today for its less-than-thorough vetting of the former beauty queen.

    In the past 48-hours, it's been revealed that Machado was at one time accused of being an accessory to murder in her home country of Venezuela, having allegedly driven a getaway car from the scene of the grizzly 1998 murder of her boyfriend's brother-in-law. In addition, Machado also allegedly threatened to kill the judge presiding over the case when the murder went to trial.

    In January 1998, the Associated Press revealed that Machado had been accused in court documents in Cadacras of driving her boyfriend from the scene of a shooting. […] A judge indicted her boyfriend, described by Reuters as ‘a 26-year-old graphic designer with movie star good looks’ – and police mounted a series of raids to find him, to no avail.

    It was not the end of the affair.

    A month later the judge went on national television to allege that Machado had threatened to kill him if he indicted Sbert. Judge Maximiliano Fuenmayor said on national television that she threatened ‘to ruin my career as a judge and … kill me’, the Associated Press reported.

    When asked about the accusations by CNN's Anderson Cooper, Machado failed to even deny them.

    "You said that the Trump campaign will try to discredit you,” Anderson Cooper said to Machado. "There are reports that Trump surrogates tonight have been referencing and pointing to on CNN and elsewhere about an incident in 1998 in Venezuela, where you were accused of driving a getaway car from a murder scene."

    "You were never charged with this," he continued. "The judge in the case also said you threatened to kill him after he indicted your boyfriend for the attempted murder. I just want to give you a chance to address these reports that the Trump surrogates are talking about."

    "He can say whatever he wants to say. I don’t care,” Machado responded. "You know, I have my past, of course. Everybody has a past, and I’m not a saint girl, but that is not the point now."

    "That moment in Venezuela was wrong, was another speculation about my life because I’m a really famous person in my country because I’m an actress there and in Mexico, too," she continued. "And he can use whatever he wants to use. The point is, that happened 20 years ago." Machado wasn't joking. She's no saint.

    In addition to having allegedly descended into a life of crime following her beauty pageant victory in 1996, it also appears that Machado had borne the child of a notorious Mexican drug kingpin known as "el Indio", leader of the "Los Negros" drug cartel.

    , a Mexico City resident, found herself in the news again when a report from a secret witness under federal protection that claimed she was involved with Gerardo Alvarez Vazquez, an accused kingpin known as “El Indio,” or “The Indian,” filtered out to Mexican media.

    The witness asserted that Machado had borne Alvarez’s daughter, Dinorah, in 2008 and that several drug lords from the Beltran Leyva gang came to the baptism.

    Lastly Ms. Machado obviously did not read her contract. There is a clause that that the winner must maintain her appearance like when she won the crown.

    Adding 50 Pounds to her body is Not Maintaining her Appearance, so she violated the Terms and Conditions of the Contract Ms. Machado signed!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dontrike View Post
    My question is why did you format it so poorly? I thought it was a series of haikus the way it looked, it was practically unreadable.
    I simply copied / pasted it from another site. That was the way it was formated and I didn't bother to re-formate it...sorry!
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    Quote Originally Posted by akaTrex View Post
    Adding 50 Pounds to her body is Not Maintaining her Appearance, so she violated the Terms and Conditions of the Contract Ms. Machado signed!
    Be that as it may, all sides get things wrong, both Trump and Hillary. Frankly, some small fact like someone getting this minute subject wrong shouldn't ring hard to hurt either campaign. That's like going "Remember when you got that minor fact wrong? Well now I can't ever trust you again." That's just silly.

    Quote Originally Posted by jockinthebox View Post
    I simply copied / pasted it from another site. That was the way it was formated and I didn't bother to re-formate it...sorry!
    I'm only saying that if you want to debate it might be best to have it in a format that doesn't look like a Japanese poem, makes it much easier to read, easier to understand, and will allow less people just to skip on by.
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    Updated | A company controlled by Donald Trump, the Republican nominee for president, secretly conducted business in Communist Cuba during Fidel Castro’s presidency despite strict American trade bans that made such undertakings illegal, according to interviews with former Trump executives, internal company records and court filings.
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    From what I understand about the Cuba things it was talk about future dealings with Cuba once the embargo was lifted. Didn't a few Hollywood stars go to Cuba to chill while the embargo was still in effect?
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