Hillary's America...

[Jay1983]

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[akaTrex]

Between Two Ferns With Zach Galifianakis: Hillary Clinton

[Dontrike]

Anyone remember when all you had to do was make a weird scream and it ruined your chances of being elected?



I'm sure Dean is looking at this election going "....the fuck?!"


And remember when Mitt Romney and Obama actually had discussions, talked about where they stand and their policies, rather than arguing about rhetoric or using quips that even a Nickelodeon sitcom would find dumb? Fuck those were good times when people had one iota of patience.

How did we go from that point where a man just has to scream to lose his chances and yet everyone is clamoring over these two fart blasting shit Muppets to become president? Why do people think either of these two are so amazing, it defies logic. I've seen two hobos fucking a boot filled with piss that looked smarter in comparison.

Just remember the next time Trump says another batshit insane thing or Hillary lies and then look back at how a man just had to scream oddly to not be worth it. Your standards have obviously dropped if you think either of these two are worth anything.

[burtybasset]

Anyone remember when all you had to do was make a weird scream and it ruined your chances of being elected?



I'm sure Dean is looking at this election going "....the fuck?!"


And remember when Mitt Romney and Obama actually had discussions, talked about where they stand and their policies, rather than arguing about rhetoric or using quips that even a Nickelodeon sitcom would find dumb? Fuck those were good times when people had one iota of patience.

How did we go from that point where a man just has to scream to lose his chances and yet everyone is clamoring over these two fart blasting shit Muppets to become president? Why do people think either of these two are so amazing, it defies logic. I've seen two hobos fucking a boot filled with piss that looked smarter in comparison.

Just remember the next time Trump says another batshit insane thing or Hillary lies and then look back at how a man just had to scream oddly to not be worth it. Your standards have obviously dropped if you think either of these two are worth anything.

I think what is happening in the election is a reflection of what is happening in society at large between the "progressive" left and the people who haven't lost their minds/still love their country.

These are the polar opposites I believe you see in the presidential candidates and I personally would choose the one who likes his country, wants to defend it/Americans, as well as create new opportunity. I think Hillary will gladly sell America to the highest bidder and not lose a nights sleep over it.

Do you believe things like the Charlotte riots or terrorism will get better under Hillary?

[CUSP82]

She will never sell it! She will rent it; pays better!

[Dontrike]

Do you believe things like the Charlotte riots or terrorism will get better under Hillary?

I could ask the same queation and replace the name with Trump. Neither of them are going to do the right thing and asking a question like that only about one proves you can't see past your own biases on the issue. You have to ask this question about both of them. That's where the main problem lies this election, neither of the zealots on either side can look at their shining statue of their own values with anything but pure awe, rather than stepping back and truly wondering if they are correct for the job. If they did then neither of these two would be here and we would have more sensible options, rather than the shit show circus we've gotten. Trump shouldn't have made it even half as far as he should have and Hillary definitely would not be here.

Trump is going to go too far and Hillary is going to do too little. Neither of them are going to open up dialogue and come up with practical solutions for these issues as both are so corrupt they might as well be toxic waste.

Look, I don't favor one or the other, I only know that the only thing Trump is worse at than Hillary is that he believes the crazy shit he says. He is a terrible person, they both are.

When it comes to the riots there is clearly a problem in the police system we have. Training needs to be done, retraining needs to be done, but that doesn't mean it is the cops fault for everything, and unfortunately lives will be lost, that is just how our world works. When you need to make split second decisions and any situation could potentially be life or death you have to make choices and those choices may not be the correct ones at the end, but there was no way to know that at the time. You cannot stop choices from being made and people dying, it is just inevitable. What BLM have to realize is that white people die more often from such attacks, but they don't get publicized nor the attention and they are feeding on it right now, and that isn't right, but neither are cops being a tad too trigger happy nowadays.

Terrorism is unfortunately a thing we live with nowadays. As much as I would like to trust everyone Trump has some points, but he goes too far with them. We might need stricter looks into people coming in, but a wall isn't going to stop people from doing that, not to mention the logistics of it being astronomical, even those who are zealots for Trump should be able to see it. People coming into the country is a good thing, but I also agree that illegals need to have consequences, but you cannot just start shipping people off as that won't solve anything either. Personally I was for the government spying on us, but that's me and I understand why it is bad. As for actually fighting terrorism, I don't know, because that is too great for me to decide right now, but being hasty isn't the answer, that much I can tell you.

These two issues, and all of the other larger ones, are far too great for one man or woman to just say something and then that being the way it should be. The problem with these presidents, Trump in particular, and the American people is that they are scared and any solution sounds like a good one, so they jump at any solution and think it is that. They are being impatient, scared, and unwilling to calm down to find a real solution, and unfortunately politicians are feeding on that fear, especially Trump. We need to all be calm and really delve deep into the problems, not look at the surface, call out the first dumbass solution and call it genius. That's not how it works.

People need to realize that these issues are not going to be solved in a day, a week, maybe even a year. We all need to try, but fixing the obviously broken parts of the world, the things that every normal citizen are struggling with, is where we should be focusing on. Rushing to a solution will not only not work, but could easily make things worse.

We expect the President to fix everything, but in reality they are basically a glorified mascot, except now they have bands of zealots behind them, rather than just fans like it used to be.

So please, everyone, take a step back and let your biases go. Look at both of them with no favoritism and think about it and where we are at, at least then maybe the next time an election happens we will get actual people running for office, rather than the two piles of diarrhea that we got. Step outside of yourself and really inspect what is going on.

[dmizzle]

Dmizzle, I was not originally a trump supporter, I was behind Cruz. But you need to listen to this closely. Stop listening to ALL main street media outlets including fox. The media in this country is the real problem and you're being led like a sheep. I will never convince you in one post on PEGym. However you sound young and idealistic but if you stepped back and looked at everything surrounding the Clintons you would actually see how well they've been protected and how many scandals they are tied to. Not made up conspiracies, you couldn't be more wrong but its not your fault, it is the media directing a phony narrative.

Im almost 40 and I don't "listen" to what the news tells me. All these people say Hillary is a crook and should be in jail, but can't name a single thing she did that was illegal. Just thinking it or saying Benghazi over and over doesn't make it so.

I'm still waiting for this list of lies and illegal activity from Clinton? The only thing anyone can say with certainty is she was an idiot for using a private email server. It was dumb. But what makes her crooked?

[QUOTE=akaTrex;1269661]Ditto ^^^ IMHO it says Volumes about Ones Character!!! Both "Deliberate Act's" of DECEIT!m/QUOTE]

Its been proven over and over she she did nothing wrong and didn't lie about anything with Benghazi.

There are 2 political beliefs. Liberal and Conservative. If it were up to Conservatives, they would like us to go back to slavery. Hate to break it to you, but Lincoln was a Liberal. Who fought for the woman's right to vote? Liberals. Who fought to end segregation in the 1960s? Liberals. Who fought for marriage equality? Liberals.

I cannot in good conscious vote for a party that fought tooth and nail against all those social movements. A party that uses God as their #1 reason for their beliefs. What candidate do the racists support? Not Hillary. What party do the anti gay people support? Not Hillary.

Do I want our borders secure? Yes. Trump is right.

Do I want to stop illegal immigrants? Yes. Trump is right.

Do I want to stop ISIS? Yes, but I sure as hell wouldn't send my kid to die for those scumbags. Go yourself or send your kid. Its an Arab war and the Arabs need to fight it.

Do I want a higher GDP then 2%? Of course. But Trump would only work to make millionaires richer. Trickle down econonics does not work. Do you think everyone is just going to get a huge raise if Trump is elected? You will still make the same money.

And I'm not suggesting everyone that supports Trump is bad. I have friends that support him, or rather dislike Hillary. But just based on the social issues of this Country, I can't support a Conservative. I like some of Trumps ideas. In fact, I would like Clinton as President and have Trump working on economics and trade deals.

But either way, the US is an amazing Country and I wouldn't trade it for anything. If a herion addict two time convicted felon can go from overdosing and jail to a computer engineer making six figures without any education, I would say anybody can. But it takes hard work and effort.

[CUSP82]

Conservatives want to go back to slavery? I don't think so.

Your loved ones died because of an internet video?
I landed in Bosnia under sniper fire.
I never sent or received classified emails.Then it became I never sent or received anything that said classified. The the FBI director found at least 110 classified. These were important things but I guess she said she was sorry so it's okay.

[GTO]

But either way, the US is an amazing Country and I wouldn't trade it for anything. If a herion addict two time convicted felon can go from overdosing and jail to a computer engineer making six figures without any education, I would say anybody can. But it takes hard work and effort.

[dmizzle]

Conservatives want to go back to slavery? I don't think so.

Your loved ones died because of an internet video?
I landed in Bosnia under sniper fire.
I never sent or received classified emails.Then it became I never sent or received anything that said classified. The the FBI director found at least 110 classified. These were important things but I guess she said she was sorry so it's okay.

For many, I think they would. But its just an example of Conservative beliefs to go back and Make America Great "Again". When was it so great that they want to go back to? Back to keeping women in the kitchen? Back to when blacks people couldnt use a water fountain? The Conservative idea has been on the wrong aide of Social issues for Centuries. Like somehow gay marriage hurts anyone when half these guys get married over and over. Its the Conservative mindset that has fought against equality for everyone. Thats the part Im against.

I believe it was 1 news cycle that they saud it was a video that sparked Benghazi. Again, no evidence that anybody lied or did anythinf wrong. All the transcripts are available to the public. Landing under sniper fire may have been a harmless exaggeration that had zero affect on anybody. You think Trump or any other Politician hasn't stretched the truth? And the email situation may be the only legitimate thing that is unclear.

I personally don't care about her emails. It may have been careless but she wasn't profiting or running a drug ring through them. If it was that agregious the FBI wpuld have charged her. Just like I don't care that Trump didn't pay taxes. I wouldn't expect anyone to hand over money voluntarily.

For Hillary to be a crook, she would habe to have been profiting from her behavior, but like Trump with taxes she plays the.system to make things more convenient. There is nothing to show she had any malicious intent to hurt anyone or profit from anything she did.

If you want to call someone a crook, Trump has done far more damage to the hard working people he stiffed with construction projects and his fake University. Nothing Hillary did affected anyone's life in a negative way.