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    The trouble is Cuspie that the mainstream media is our window into what's going on. It seems that neither Trump or the media can be trusted by many.

    I think you may have misunderstood me on the LGBT thing. Putin is against gay rights and Trump is apparently supporting gay rights but at the same time "admiring" Putin. He can't have it both ways.

    The thing about different states having different laws is silly. This only leads to fragmentation, confrontation and confusion. A law is a law and should be applied equally to all. Hell! We used to have a law that stated that if a person needed to piss in the street that he could shout out "Relief, relief, relief!" three times and not be subject to arrest. Laws need to move with the times and what your founding fathers found appropriate 200 years ago may not apply in the modern world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CUSP82 View Post
    Jail? And the crime he is going to jail for is what exactly?
    Let's start with illegal contact with a foreign government. But this psychopath will commit more acts that will get him in trouble. Its in his nature.

    Google "Hare Test" and any objective person will conclude that Trump is a psychopath.
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    The admiring Putin thing; maybe we can clear that up. In Trumps opinion the previous president was not a strong leader. Whether he was or not is up for debate.
    What Trump admired about Putin was that he was and is a strong leader. Whether you like what Putin stands for is a totally different question. The world respects and possibly fears him. Trump did not think the world respected Obama.

    It is possible to admire a guy, even an evil, in some manner without saying you're best buddies? We all seem to admire Julius Caesar as emperor of Rome yet he slaughtered millions. We admire him because he gave peace, the Pax Romana to Europe at that time of course at the expense of millions of lives. Mussolini, the facist dictator of Italy , although still hated by Italians yet admired because to this day he was the only one that could get the trains and mail to run on time.

    Trump admires Putin for the strength of his leadership, not what he leads.
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    [QUOTE=JohnF101;1331914]Let's start with illegal contact with a foreign government. But this psychopath will commit more acts that will get him in trouble. Its in his nature.

    Google "Hare Test" and any objective person will conclude that Trump is a psychopath.[/QUOTE



    Illegal contact? Did anyone prove that? If so why is he not in jail now?As for Google diagnosing mental condition you have to do better that that. Just say you don't like him. That's easy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CUSP82 View Post
    The admiring Putin thing; maybe we can clear that up. In Trumps opinion the previous president was not a strong leader. Whether he was or not is up for debate.
    What Trump admired about Putin was that he was and is a strong leader. Whether you like what Putin stands for is a totally different question. The world respects and possibly fears him. Trump did not think the world respected Obama.

    It is possible to admire a guy, even an evil, in some manner without saying you're best buddies? We all seem to admire Julius Caesar as emperor of Rome yet he slaughtered millions. We admire him because he gave peace, the Pax Romana to Europe at that time of course at the expense of millions of lives. Mussolini, the facist dictator of Italy , although still hated by Italians yet admired because to this day he was the only one that could get the trains and mail to run on time.

    Trump admires Putin for the strength of his leadership, not what he leads.
    So, Trump would like to be remembered as someone who emulated strong dictatorial leaders like Putin, Caesar and Mussolini? At what cost?

    You could say the same thing about Hitler when he banned guns, but we all know that he did that so as the Jews couldn't protect themselves. Where does it end?
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    I don't think he emulates him and I think he would like to be remembered as a guy who got good things done for the American people.
    He has been in office just more than 30 days but yet is the left or the media giving him a chance? Stuff takes time in Washington yet no one is willing give him time. Why not wait a year or two before everyone jumps on him. He's not going anywhere for at least 4 years so give the guy a chance. Nope we can't do that can we. We have a stagnant economy, open border to allow anyone in, failing schools in our inner cities, multiple daily homicides in Chicago, and healthcare plan that not only is falling apart but is very expensive to any one that has a job or runs a business.
    So what does that evil man want? He want legal immigration, I know that's horrible. He wants school choice for all kids, not just the rich.He wants a strong defense to deter enemies and there are lots of them. He wants to stimulate the economy which will not only be good for American jobs but strong US economy helps the whole world.
    Oh the bastard wants to put up a wall on our southern border? Gee Mexico has a wall on it's southern border; why doesn't anyone complain about that? Why is it if Mexico is so great why do so many people want to leave that country? Anyone seeing an influx of Canadians here?

    Hell Sweden can deport 80,000 migrants and that's okay but Trump kicks out 700 with felony record and he's evil?
    Trying to shrink the Federal government he wants to leave things up to the states choice so for that he's anti LGBT? How many of you guys wouldn't mind if right after your 4 year old little girls goes into the ladies room and 60 year old dirt bag guy walks in there with her because he feels like a woman?

    He wants tax breaks for corporate and private; gee what a horrible idea.


    Why not instead of making stuff up or harping on every word this non polished politician says why not just let a few months goes by and see what happens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CUSP82 View Post
    What Trump admired about Putin was that he was and is a strong leader. Whether you like what Putin stands for is a totally different question. The world respects and possibly fears him. Trump did not think the world respected Obama.

    It is possible to admire a guy, even an evil, in some manner without saying you're best buddies? We all seem to admire Julius Caesar as emperor of Rome yet he slaughtered millions. We admire him because he gave peace, the Pax Romana to Europe at that time of course at the expense of millions of lives. Mussolini, the facist dictator of Italy , although still hated by Italians yet admired because to this day he was the only one that could get the trains and mail to run on time.

    Trump admires Putin for the strength of his leadership, not what he leads.
    Have you ever been to Russia? I have and you know nothing about Putin or Russia.
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    [QUOTE=CUSP82;1331922]
    Quote Originally Posted by JohnF101 View Post
    Let's start with illegal contact with a foreign government. But this psychopath will commit more acts that will get him in trouble. Its in his nature.

    Google "Hare Test" and any objective person will conclude that Trump is a psychopath.[/QUOTE



    Illegal contact? Did anyone prove that? If so why is he not in jail now?As for Google diagnosing mental condition you have to do better that that. Just say you don't like him. That's easy.
    Investigations obviously take time. 53% of Americans want one and only 21% don't. This will do him in. I only hope later than sooner. I want him to continue to embarrass America, alienate more and more Americans to they actually go out and vote.

    He is a scam and so is Republican policy. Let's start with Kansas. Of course that is biased media. More on tax cuts for businesses and the wealthy? In this country, the highest taxed states have the wealthiest individuals. Same with overseas -- he highest taxed counties have the wealthiest individuals and the best quality of living, for that matter.
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    The problems are huge and there isn't any easy answer that's going to appease everybody.

    Political correctness has a lot to answer for. I voted for Brexit not because I was worried about terrorists entering the country en mass but because there's too damn many of us on a small island that can't cope with the demand. Trumps EO was rushed and poorly thought out affecting totally innocent people. I'm all for proper immigration control, I just don't agree with the blanket ban.

    As far as guns are concerned, there used to be a time when a 6' 5" monster of a man wasn't messed with. Now it seems that the bigger the gun you have the bigger the man you are, although the consequences with fully automatic guns are devastating. We have to get away from this mentality of bigger is better.

    Healthcare should be paid for with taxes based on the individuals income and not insurance policies. I'm not as rich as Trump but why should his healthcare be better than mine because he is a billionaire? We both bleed the same coloured blood. Yes, there is always going to be individuals that play the system and are lazy bastards that want to ponce off the state and do nothing, but everybody should be entitled to a certain standard of care based on the fact that they are human beings and not on how much money they have in their pocket. Not everyone has had a perfect life like Trump where money makes money easily. CEO's of companies hire talented people to do things they can't. Richard Branson hasn't a clue about trains, aeroplanes, or spacecraft. He has the funds to hire the best talent available while he sits on his arse on his private island playing silly buggers and falling off pushbikes or floating up in the sky in hot air ballons to break records that the normal Joe breaking his balls trying to pay his mortgage and keep his marriage alive doesn't give a shit about.

    The wall on the border of Mexico has been given far too much priority over much bigger problems like your veterans, the economy and homeless. Look after his own first before worrying about a damn wall. How many veterans and homeless could be taken care of for the money spent on a wall that will be overcome by people that are desperate enough to breach it.

    The toilet issue with perverts taking advantage is a big problem. Again, this is political correctness gone mad! Being a straight male I never think every time I walk into a public toilet whether the men around me may be gay and in there for ulterior motives, it just never enters my thoughts or bothers me. All the gay guys I know personally I respect and see them as good friends and I never see them as "different" to me apart from the fact that they have different sexual preferences to me. The way I see it is if you have a penis you go to the men's toilet and if you have a vagina you go to the ladies. Are we going to stop gays going for a pee to the men's toilet or lesbians going to the women's? Where does it end? Maybe we should have separate toilets for all variations of sexual orientation? Madness! If a man or a woman goes into a toilet for nefarious reasons it is pretty obvious. Kick their arse out of there and they'll soon get the message. What about hermaphrodite's, what happens about them? Are we going to have separate toilets for them too? Crazy!
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