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  1. 02-24-2017 #371
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    Trump announced his agenda while compaigning. He was elected President through the Electeral College based on that agenda, even though he did not receive a majority of the popular vote. He is now proceeding on that agenda which he campaigned on to comply with his campaign pledges. Just because he is not supported by the majority, there is no reason he should not reward the wishes of the people who elected him.

    Unfortunately, he comes across as a bafoon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by not2big View Post
    Trump announced his agenda while compaigning. He was elected President through the Electeral College based on that agenda, even though he did not receive a majority of the popular vote. He is now proceeding on that agenda which he campaigned on to comply with his campaign pledges. Just because he is not supported by the majority, there is no reason he should not reward the wishes of the people who elected him.

    Unfortunately, he comes across as a bafoon.
    Maybe he's followed a path to get the votes for the presidency that he cannot fulfil. Time will tell.
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    The BBC now banned from press briefings with Trump because of fake news. Lol

    The British Broadcasting Company funded solely by the public paying for a TV license that doesn't rely on or have advertising on any of it's channels and has no political party affiliations so as it can broadcast unbiased views.

    Where's the fake news from the BBC? Sounds like censorship to me!
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  4. 02-24-2017 #374
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tamora View Post
    The problems are huge and there isn't any easy answer that's going to appease everybody.

    Political correctness has a lot to answer for. I voted for Brexit not because I was worried about terrorists entering the country en mass but because there's too damn many of us on a small island that can't cope with the demand. Trumps EO was rushed and poorly thought out affecting totally innocent people. I'm all for proper immigration control, I just don't agree with the blanket ban.

    As far as guns are concerned, there used to be a time when a 6' 5" monster of a man wasn't messed with. Now it seems that the bigger the gun you have the bigger the man you are, although the consequences with fully automatic guns are devastating. We have to get away with this mentality of bigger is better.

    Healthcare should be paid for with taxes based on the individuals income and not insurance policies. I'm not as rich as Trump but why should his healthcare be better than mine because he is a billionaire? We both bleed the same coloured blood. Yes, there is always going to be individuals that play the system and are lazy bastards that want to ponce off the state and do nothing, but everybody should be entitled to a certain standard of care based on the fact that they are human beings and not on how much money they have in their pocket. Not everyone has had a perfect life like Trump where money makes money easily. CEO's of companies hire talented people to do things they can't. Richard Branson hasn't a clue about trains, aeroplanes, or spacecraft. He has the funds to hire the best talent available while he sits on his arse on his private island playing silly buggers and falling off pushbikes or floating up in the sky in hot air ballons to break records that the normal Joe breaking his balls trying to pay his mortgage and keep his marriage alive doesn't give a shit about.

    The wall on the border of Mexico has been given far too much priority over much bigger problems like your veterans, the economy and homeless. Look after his own first before worrying about a damn wall. How many veterans and homeless could be taken care of for the money spent on a wall that will be overcome by people that are desperate enough to breach it.

    The toilet issue with perverts taking advantage is a big problem. Again, this is political correctness gone mad! Being a straight male I never think every time I walk into a public toilet whether the men around me may be gay and in there for ulterior motives, it just never enters my thoughts or bothers me. All the gay guys I know personally I respect and see them as good friends and I never see them as "different" to me apart from the fact that they have different sexual preferences to me. The way I see it is if you have a penis you go to the men's toilet and if you have a vagina you go to the ladies. Are we going to stop gays going for a pee to the men's toilet or lesbians going to the women's? Where does it end? Maybe we should have separate toilets for all variations of sexual orientation? Madness! If a man or a woman goes into a toilet for nefarious reasons it is pretty obvious. Kick their arse out of there and they'll soon get the message. What about hermaphrodite's, what happens about them? Are we going to have separate toilets for them too? Crazy!

    I agree with everything except that "the problems are huge." They are not huge; they are created by right-wing ideologues who use obstructionism and misinformation to rally a racist, sexist, and xenophobic base to vote against their own political interests.

    Looking back, I wish McCain had lost the 2008 election. The Republican "solution" would largely follow that of Herbert Hoover, with similar results, further driving the country into such a deep recession that the impact of deregulation and tax cuts would be impossible to ignore and this lying, scam artist Buffoon would not be President.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CUSP82 View Post
    I don't think he emulates him and I think he would like to be remembered as a guy who got good things done for the American people.
    He has been in office just more than 30 days but yet is the left or the media giving him a chance? Stuff takes time in Washington yet no one is willing give him time. Why not wait a year or two before everyone jumps on him. He's not going anywhere for at least 4 years so give the guy a chance. Nope we can't do that can we. We have a stagnant economy, open border to allow anyone in, failing schools in our inner cities, multiple daily homicides in Chicago, and healthcare plan that not only is falling apart but is very expensive to any one that has a job or runs a business.
    So what does that evil man want? He want legal immigration, I know that's horrible. He wants school choice for all kids, not just the rich.He wants a strong defense to deter enemies and there are lots of them. He wants to stimulate the economy which will not only be good for American jobs but strong US economy helps the whole world.
    Oh the bastard wants to put up a wall on our southern border? Gee Mexico has a wall on it's southern border; why doesn't anyone complain about that? Why is it if Mexico is so great why do so many people want to leave that country? Anyone seeing an influx of Canadians here?

    Hell Sweden can deport 80,000 migrants and that's okay but Trump kicks out 700 with felony record and he's evil?
    Trying to shrink the Federal government he wants to leave things up to the states choice so for that he's anti LGBT? How many of you guys wouldn't mind if right after your 4 year old little girls goes into the ladies room and 60 year old dirt bag guy walks in there with her because he feels like a woman?

    He wants tax breaks for corporate and private; gee what a horrible idea.


    Why not instead of making stuff up or harping on every word this non polished politician says why not just let a few months goes by and see what happens.
    During the second world war the UK took in thousands of refugees after it was over 2/3 went back to there country's, well the war is over and there towns now need rebuilding in Syria So I think it would be more of encouraging them to go back the there home country more than deporting them, where as Blun****** is doing a purge, so not quit the same thing, his problem is he does not know where a lot of the come from, so to just dump the over the border is not the done thing is it.

    He's stating the wall is going to be built, has it been funded yet?

    One last thing if you don't know is that he has 18 golf courses around the world, so him not allowing company's to move out and work from there, so what's he going to do about his business start charging himself, can you see that happening?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tamora View Post
    The problems are huge and there isn't any easy answer that's going to appease everybody.

    Political correctness has a lot to answer for. I voted for Brexit not because I was worried about terrorists entering the country en mass but because there's too damn many of us on a small island that can't cope with the demand. Trumps EO was rushed and poorly thought out affecting totally innocent people. I'm all for proper immigration control, I just don't agree with the blanket ban.

    As far as guns are concerned, there used to be a time when a 6' 5" monster of a man wasn't messed with. Now it seems that the bigger the gun you have the bigger the man you are, although the consequences with fully automatic guns are devastating. We have to get away with this mentality of bigger is better.

    Healthcare should be paid for with taxes based on the individuals income and not insurance policies. I'm not as rich as Trump but why should his healthcare be better than mine because he is a billionaire? We both bleed the same coloured blood. Yes, there is always going to be individuals that play the system and are lazy bastards that want to ponce off the state and do nothing, but everybody should be entitled to a certain standard of care based on the fact that they are human beings and not on how much money they have in their pocket. Not everyone has had a perfect life like Trump where money makes money easily. CEO's of companies hire talented people to do things they can't. Richard Branson hasn't a clue about trains, aeroplanes, or spacecraft. He has the funds to hire the best talent available while he sits on his arse on his private island playing silly buggers and falling off pushbikes or floating up in the sky in hot air ballons to break records that the normal Joe breaking his balls trying to pay his mortgage and keep his marriage alive doesn't give a shit about.

    The wall on the border of Mexico has been given far too much priority over much bigger problems like your veterans, the economy and homeless. Look after his own first before worrying about a damn wall. How many veterans and homeless could be taken care of for the money spent on a wall that will be overcome by people that are desperate enough to breach it.

    The toilet issue with perverts taking advantage is a big problem. Again, this is political correctness gone mad! Being a straight male I never think every time I walk into a public toilet whether the men around me may be gay and in there for ulterior motives, it just never enters my thoughts or bothers me. All the gay guys I know personally I respect and see them as good friends and I never see them as "different" to me apart from the fact that they have different sexual preferences to me. The way I see it is if you have a penis you go to the men's toilet and if you have a vagina you go to the ladies. Are we going to stop gays going for a pee to the men's toilet or lesbians going to the women's? Where does it end? Maybe we should have separate toilets for all variations of sexual orientation? Madness! If a man or a woman goes into a toilet for nefarious reasons it is pretty obvious. Kick their arse out of there and they'll soon get the message. What about hermaphrodite's, what happens about them? Are we going to have separate toilets for them too? Crazy!
    Well Said Tamora and well written. petty it will fall on deaf ears, your now be down as a Trump basher or Blun****** as I call him.

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    No Tam is a man who speaks his mind and makes good sense. Under Obama if you disagreed with anything he said you were a racist, bigot or hater.With Trump no one says you have to like everything he says and does.
    As for the wall, 50 billion is spent on good and services for illegals in this country. Maybe stopping them from coming in frees up some money huh?
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    Golf courses don't produce anything that can be imported or exported so as usual Trump is doing things that won't hurt himself. Don't worry about Trump taking care of himself is what he does best.

    As to the media being childish... Yes, yes they are.
    Trump is also a very petulant child. Now the children that don't play by his rules aren't allowed in his sandbox. Oh wait he is nothing but a public servant. It is supposed to be our sandbox. What a spoiled little baby.
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    Hey while we're at it can we get off the Electoral College thing? Those are the rules and many a president has been elected without he majority of votes, even Democrats.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wishful10x8 View Post
    Golf courses don't produce anything that can be imported or exported so as usual Trump is doing things that won't hurt himself. Don't worry about Trump taking care of himself is what he does best.

    As to the media being childish... Yes, yes they are.
    Trump is also a very petulant child. Now the children that don't play by his rules aren't allowed in his sandbox. Oh wait he is nothing but a public servant. It is supposed to be our sandbox. What a spoiled little baby.
    He imports lots of his own money into his vault, so just how much is he taxed on that, so in away he is importing, think about it.

    But then his accounts will say something so it gets lost as usual, and bang goes him paying the taxes he should be, accounts are very good at ducking and diving down some very dark backroad's.

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