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  1. 03-04-2017 #511
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    Was Julius Ceasar a good man? No he was a bastard and did many bad things. Did he do many good things for his empire even though he was a bad man? Hundreds of years of peace was enjoyed in the Pax Romana. I don't care what kind of a bastard he or any of them are. Can he make my country better? If he can great. If not then he's got 4 years until I toss his ass out. I think he deserves the decency of giving him a chance without the bullshit.
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    Why? Why does he deserve 4 years without the bullshit? He even quotes media sources for his decision making. He deserves every shit sandwich we can serve up for him. As would Killary had she made it instead. It will be the shit sandwiches that help us ascertain his value. A kite rises against the wind. So let's see if he can rise. I for one want as many shit sandwiches served him as possible
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    No my friend a shit sandwich is not what is deserved. Respect as president and help to be president and help all of us. He will be president for at least 4 years and maybe if his energy was spent taking care of business and not the unfounded bullshit which much of what has been thrown at him is well then maybe he'll be a better president. If he wins we all win.
    I never liked Obama but I wanted him to be successful. It took me 6 years before I soured on the idea that things were just not going to get any better. They told me it was the new normal and get used to it. The only reason I had to get used to a new normal is because getting back to the old normal took way too much work and no one wanted to do that.

    We all got a new start; new president and new party in power. Remember if enough people help him to fail then fail he will and so do we.
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    Which is what will help us the most. People like him need to fail as they have been for years. Then we can try a better plan. Leaders from the largest group of peers instead of the corrupt minority. So I hope he fails better than all the rest. Then I hope people rise to a new idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wishful10x8 View Post
    Which is what will help us the most. People like him need to fail as they have been for years. Then we can try a better plan. Leaders from the largest group of peers instead of the corrupt minority. So I hope he fails better than all the rest. Then I hope people rise to a new idea.
    What are you talking about how is he failing
    other than others putting roadblocks up to
    progress
    You haven't said one positive thing only negative crap
    I am going to believe he is going to succeed
    even with all the bullshit thrown at him
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    I think all the president's in my life time have failed miserably. Some worse than others. I did not say Trump has failed, I said I hope he fails worse than any president in history. I think he has the moral turpitude to do just that. Then I hope people quit supporting those that have run and won. Yes I have no positive things to say about him. I don't pretend differently.
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    Why would someone in their right mind want to see someone fail!
    I could throw out a few words but I can't
    because whiteout will erase them so I will bite my toungue
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    I don't believe it is mental unstableness to hope a psychopath fails. I don't think he is in my, or my countries best interest. I don't think he intends to help me or the majority, and I hope he fails. I want to be part of an upstanding country built on upstanding principles. I don't want to live in a country that promotes what we have been seeing for at least 50 years. I hope mass murderers like Obama, Bush fail. I hope sex crazed megalomaniacs like Clinton fail. I hope psychopaths like Trump fail. I'm sane, and I hope for much better. Personally all your little labels you might attach to me wouldn't matter in the slightest. But I agree you shouldn't apply them in the open forums.
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    Well. I could add so many thoughts, but why? People will think the way they think. I came to that conclusion a long time ago, if I rely on the government to take care of me, I will be left wanting. But that's really the plan, promises, promises, that my kids will have to pay for.
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    Interjecting a bit, I think it is high time a Business Man took reins of this country instead of a politician who is beholden to special interest. He got to the white house on his own without the usual backers. Give him time to show what he can do. We as a country will persevere, hell we made it through Obama who was among the worst leaders we have ever had. We will be fine.
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