Very Political

**CUSP82** · 03-07-2017

Originally Posted by Cavalier

There is more to it than just crime. They are driving wages down, taking jobs away from Americans and legal immigrants and helping to drive up the cost of healthcare. This cheap labor, whether it's here or abroad, makes it very difficult for the small businesses who hire in the US and legally to offer reasonable benefits to their employees.

But no one care about that; they have to be compassionate!

**CUSP82** · 03-07-2017

Originally Posted by NOWHARD

If Americans commit 30,000 murders a year, then there are just to many guns in the USA.

In your answer Cusp there are no illegals there Americans?

NOWHARD

Bottom line; any murder or crime committed by someone who should not be here should never have been committed.

**closed224** · 03-07-2017

I don't mind trying to stop immigration, or fix health care, or bring back jobs, or... I just mind how they do it. Spend enough money with big insurance companies that we could have given each American $1,000,000.00 and give us Obamacare. I would rather have the million dollars. Spend enough money on the wall that we could all have several million dollars. I would rather have the several million dollars. It is always a shuck and jive with me the loser being told how they are looking out for me by bending over someone else also. Spreading the agony around doesn't make things better. Hiring the fox to guard the hen house doesn't make any of the hens safer.

**Tamora** · 03-07-2017

I can tell you all now that even some of the newer immigrants to the UK say that Brexit is a good idea and there's too many immigrants coming into the country. Each country has to look after their own first before adding to their problems and then help others.

Anything else is just crazy and is asking for trouble.

**CUSP82** · 03-07-2017

Immigration has laws. Laws must be respected. Why is it that some feel it is fine to disregard a law? If you don't like a law vote for people who will change it. Who's makes it there moral duty to help. allow, or protest to not follow a law? I don't like DWI laws. I feel I should be able to drive after 3 double rums and drive fast so I can get home to watch Dancing with the Stars. So that's the law I want to violate.

Not to piss off too many Democrats but I will; the Dems always talk about immigration reform. They held super majorities in both the House and Senate from 2009-2011 as well as the White House. They could have passed any bill they wanted too. Hey that's how they got healthcare through. So you think maybe they got too tired to pass immigration reform or do they really don't want to pass anything and just use it as a political weapon when they need.

**akaTrex** · 03-07-2017

Yes the Japanese Attacked the US.
The Germans did not.

Also there were Japanese conspirators on the ground in Hawaii and provided intel to Japan during the planing to attack the US Pacific Fleet in Pearl Harbor.

**closed224** · 03-07-2017

Other examples also. We just loved Germany and Hitler because he was making the elites money at the time.

Either the casualties inflicted on USS Kearny by German submarine U-568 on 17 October 1941 (11 KIA)[5] or the sinking of the USS Reuben James by U-552 on 31 October 1941, (115 KIA)[6] might be considered the first American naval losses of World War II. The United States was neither officially involved in the war at the time nor did the incidents cause them to declare war.

So we let him kill a few of us.

**closed224** · 03-07-2017

Originally Posted by CUSP82

Immigration has laws. Laws must be respected. Why is it that some feel it is fine to disregard a law? If you don't like a law vote for people who will change it. Who's makes it there moral duty to help. allow, or protest to not follow a law? I don't like DWI laws. I feel I should be able to drive after 3 double rums and drive fast so I can get home to watch Dancing with the Stars. So that's the law I want to violate.

Not to piss off too many Democrats but I will; the Dems always talk about immigration reform. They held super majorities in both the House and Senate from 2009-2011 as well as the White House. They could have passed any bill they wanted too. Hey that's how they got healthcare through. So you think maybe they got too tired to pass immigration reform or do they really don't want to pass anything and just use it as a political weapon when they need.

You mean like Trump disregarding the immigration laws?

**closed224** · 03-07-2017

Democrats and republicans rattle the same sabers and accomplish very little of any merit. All designed to keep us at each other and not forcing them to change the way they do business. Always has been always will be. None of these things is limited to either party. Trump is bringing in his cronies to do the same thing, but focused on giving his rich cronies more of our money.
For instance bring in a multilevel marketing rich lady to oversee giving the Catholic and other private over priced schools even more money through vouchers. Bill is for them and pretend it is for us. And the beat goes on.

**not2big** · 03-07-2017

Trump stepped in it again:

An unopened Trump hotel in Azerbaijan has been linked to corrupt officials who support the Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, reports Adam Davidson in a New Yorkerpiece.

Time to release his tax returns.