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  1. 03-11-2017 #651
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    Very interesting Wish but if you go way up your find I said that Blun****** was there just for him and his buddies, even his last travel order was 5 states against him, yesterday, what does that tell us?

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    It tell you that those states controlled by Democrats don't care who may get hurt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CUSP82 View Post
    It tell you that those states controlled by Democrats don't care who may get hurt.
    A good policy must be backed by data, studies, and statistics. A vast amount of works have been done, and suggest that refugees do not pose a security risk. Either by the Department of Homeland Security or independent studies. I have posted numerous on this thread. So democrats in this case are in the right.

    I am still waiting though on those who favor the travel ban, to show any data or statistics to show Trump travel ban is a good policy.
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    Here's policy; if I don't know who you are, if I can't prove where you come from, if I can't ascertain if you have been a criminal or not you cannot come to my house until that can be established. Now what is so hard about that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by CUSP82 View Post
    Here's policy; if I don't know who you are, if I can't prove where you come from, if I can't ascertain if you have been a criminal or not you cannot come to my house until that can be established. Now what is so hard about that?
    Who is to say that isn't the case already? US already has a vetting system and extremely tough one. It isn't easy getting through the system as it is. That is why there is data to back it up.

    In fact i would suggest this policy only increases US security risks. Because such policy will drive anti america sentiments in the Middle East, and terrorists group will use this as a propaganda and a recruiting tool.
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    Hey Clock the FBI director and the head of the NSA, James Clapper, said vetting from those areas was impossible months ago.


    • FBI Director Admits US Can't Vet All Syrian Refugees For Terror...

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      Oct 21, 2015 ... FBI director James Comey said the federal government does not have ... to screen Syrian refugees compared to how Iraqi refugees were vetted ...
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      Nov 19, 2015 ... Nation's Top Security Officials' Concerns on Refugee Vetting ... This came from testimony that came from both F.B.I. and homeland security ... ISIS has said in their own words that they want to exploit it to infiltrate the West. ... John Brennan, Director, Central Intelligence Agency: “I think it makes it even more ...


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    Anybody else concerned that the Trump Administration is taking a hard line towards the UK and Getmany with regard to trade and outsourcing of jobs yet seems to be following a hands off policy when it comes to Russa.
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    Shows just how much he is a commy.

    But I thought he had something for good old England or has he turned the other cheek, if he does that he wont get to meet the Queen or get his state visit, that will smart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clockwork0 View Post
    Who is to say that isn't the case already? US already has a vetting system and extremely tough one. It isn't easy getting through the system as it is. That is why there is data to back it up.

    In fact i would suggest this policy only increases US security risks. Because such policy will drive anti america sentiments in the Middle East, and terrorists group will use this as a propaganda and a recruiting tool.
    Not as tough as you may think.

    300 refugees subjects of FBI terror investigations, U.S. officials say ...
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    The rules were in place. The agencies skipped steps and did not follow procedures. Then because they want more control of us they pass more laws. Started with cloudier in toothpaste, seatbelts in cars, national speed limits. Moved to Patriot act etc. Sell to us as protecting us. Bullshit they just want more ways to lock us up and down. None of it is for our benefit. It is all for our detriment. We just have to be sold on the idea. Bad is good fear is right.
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