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    Hey,

    So I have been doing PE for about a year and half now. I got gains as you can see in my signature buy I have still not reached my goals.

    Anyways, I am changing my life currently and sadly I do not have time for PE no more and I prioritize improving another aspects of my life, namely finances and social life/love.

    I am targeting the social life for the most right now. Why? A short story about me. I was always a cool kid when growing up and everybody liked me. I remember when I was very young, every boy wanted to sit with me in the class and the girls considered me beautiful. After some years, in high school, I still was considered to be the hottest guy in the classroom. The girls themselves were saying it.

    BUUUUUTT, despite that everybody liked me, I had some internal problems... I was shy, scared and beta guy. I was so shy that I always turned down party invitations until people stoped inviting me. I remember when my class mates were having a party on Friday, I was in my home and the girls were calling me and asking why I did not come. So basically I suck with girls even though they like me.

    So I do not know what kind psychological issues I had ( and still have) but I have learned now that no matter how much people like you it does not matter while you are not confident, dominant and bold. No girls until you fix it. So luckily I have found RSD nation guys on youtube and justin wayne dating channel. They give great advice for men on dating and I have been studying them in order to help myself. Of course, since I was so shy, I was just consuming all the content without even applying it by going out. But until recently I have started going out since I have become fed up to not being good with women. I am accepting every invitations the friends of mine are giving now and I began socializing a lot. I am even thinking on taking initiative myself and inviting people for meet ups and parties myself ( I guess this what cool people do, while I was always expecting that somebody else invites me all the time).

    One of the things I did not realized is that being social and having friends takes a lot of time. Before I was used just to go to school/university and playing video games all Fridays and Saturdays alone. Hanging together with friends really takes the time.

    Anyways, I would really appreciate any advice from guys on here who are actually good with women and any advice on what I should do is very welcome.( Please do not give your opinions if you suck with women).

    My main goal for now is just to get a girlfriend. I will be the happiest man ever. This is how I am planning to get a girl and what I have been doing for this summer. I am practicing cold approach pick up. This what those guys I mentioned before( RSD and Justin Wayne Dating) are recommending. This means going out and talking with random girls you do not know. If you master this, getting girls by doing warm approach( the girls you know from somewhere, like school or work) becomes a joke.

    My experience so far. OMG. It takes balls to do it. First of all, the approach anxiety is huge and it is so hard to approach random girls. All possible excuses comes in. Probably my mind made up every possible excuse there is. To mention a few like "she is ugly, she is walking too fast, she is dancing, she is wearing headphones, she is with a guy, she is out of my league, she is with two other girls" and the biggest one "What other people think of me when they will see me hitting on the girl".

    Right now I am struggling with approaching a girl, I miss so many opportunities because I am scared and if finally I manage to open a girl, the conversations last only for a minute or two. Also I have no idea how to get a dancing girl to talk with me. I have tried yesterday and it seemed impossible since they do not want to stop dancing just in order to talk with me.

    Overall I am super happy for finally taking some action. Maybe I will come back to PE in the future when I will become good with women and get a girlfriend. Maybe I will have more time then. I have no idea how much time a girlfriend consumes..

    So yeahh guys, thank you for good community and maybe I will come back in some years later to finish my PE goals.

    Thanks again for great support!
    Mantas
    Senior Member
    Last edited by Mantas; 07-09-2017, 11:31 AM.
    BPEL: 5.4, 5.6, 5.8, 6.0, 6.2, 6.4, 6.6, 6.8, 7.0, 7.2, 7.25
    MEG: 4.2, 4.3, 4.4, 4.5, 4.6, 4.7, 4.8, 4.9, 5.0, 5.1, 5.2, 5.3, 5.4, 5.5

  • #2
    You could always comeback and be social and just talk. Good luck in life; enjoy it!
    The world's still a toy if you just stay a boy!

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    • #3
      Anyways, I am changing my life currently and sadly I do not have time for PE no more and I prioritize improving another aspects of my life, namely finances and social life/love.
      Ya, time, we all have 24hrs alone.
      So I do not know what kind psychological issues I had ( and still have) but I have learned now that no matter how much people like you it does not matter while you are not confident, dominant and bold. .
      Have you checked the AP90 thread here in PEGym? Many people, including me, have reported a boost in confidence just buy quitting porn and or with masturbation.
      Anyways, I would really appreciate any advice from guys on here who are actually good with women and any advice on what I should do is very welcome.( Please do not give your opinions if you suck with women).
      I can’t say that I am good with women. I am also not great at analyzing what works and what doesn’t or even if what I consider as “working” is simply working or just a side effect of decades of porn use. I have just recently quit porn and MO (45days) so I am still learning and trying to navigate a lot sexually. I just posted this over at AP90,
      I have met and in some cases mate with 7 girls in 7 days. I've learnt a lot with respect to a porn free journey. The details are luscious but also very long... don't know if i should post it here.
      I look at it all from a porn perspective rather than from other perspectives but you may browse there and see if you could relate or learn a thing or two.
      A candle loses nothing by lighting another candle

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      • #4
        Agree with Cusp. Good luck.
        ALL THE WAY WITH GOOD OLE JAY!

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        • #5
          Stay well Mantas
          You never slow down, you never grow old!

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          • #6
            Communication with the opposite sex is oftentimes non-verbal. Being shy is not fatal nor necessarily a disadvantage when picking up women. Ever heard of the strong silent type guy? If you're attractive (as you say you are Mantas), just putting yourself "out there" in social settings can net you relationships. Live your life in the way YOU want, not what everybody else wants you to be. Being comfortable in your own skin and living your life accordingly is NOT narcissistic, it's HEALTHY! You'll find women are attracted to an honest happy guy who enjoys being himself, I GUARANTEE IT! Good luck, and KEEP ON "HUMPIN'"...just don't throw your back out!

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            • #7
              Good luck in your pick up artistry, Mantas.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by the_iron View Post
                Ya, time, we all have 24hrs alone.

                Have you checked the AP90 thread here in PEGym? Many people, including me, have reported a boost in confidence just buy quitting porn and or with masturbation.

                .
                Porn is definetely bad as it releases a dopamine to the brain. All other things as facebook notifications, snapchat and whatnot does the same thing by releasing dopamine. Though considering only mere fapping I like what this guy I look up to says.
                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOAVLjJTO6M&t=115s

                Originally posted by jockinthebox View Post
                Communication with the opposite sex is oftentimes non-verbal. Being shy is not fatal nor necessarily a disadvantage when picking up women. Ever heard of the strong silent type guy? If you're attractive (as you say you are Mantas), just putting yourself "out there" in social settings can net you relationships.
                Totally true that you can open by not even talking. There are many exmaples. One of them is here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_dVGPQ58YE

                Though regarding this type of silent pick up, one is able to do only when he has mastered pickup and women just senses that you are cool guy. If you are not there yet, practice verbal game. That's what I have learned by watching dating theory.
                BPEL: 5.4, 5.6, 5.8, 6.0, 6.2, 6.4, 6.6, 6.8, 7.0, 7.2, 7.25
                MEG: 4.2, 4.3, 4.4, 4.5, 4.6, 4.7, 4.8, 4.9, 5.0, 5.1, 5.2, 5.3, 5.4, 5.5

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                • #9
                  You've got a lot to add here; still wanna say goodbye?
                  The world's still a toy if you just stay a boy!

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                  • #10
                    I can relate to your story. I have always been shy. In a group of people I will fade to the back and give very little verbal input.

                    I have also been trying to re learn life. I call them my practice dates. I really had no idea how to pick up girls or even talk to them after being in an unhealthy marriage for so many years. So I started practiced dates. Just inviting someone I knew that I could practice talking with.

                    I really didn't get into the practice dates too far before I found a girl that was a perfect fit. It all came down to being open to communicating and being myself. This has made things progress very quickly. We are talking zero to sixty, and that is with my foot on the breaks. LOL Being able to be myself and cutting out all the mind games has made this relationship very easy. And honestly I embrace the awkward moments. If we can communicate through the hard uncomfortable things then we will be able to tackle most any problem and learn how to support each other better.

                    So in a nutshell....Be open, be honest, and most of all be yourself. Do you really want someone to fall for you only to find out later that you were trying to be something you are not only to impress them???

                    Good luck, and please check back in sometimes.

                    Proactive
                    goal--Contentment
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by proactive View Post
                      I can relate to your story. I have always been shy. In a group of people I will fade to the back and give very little verbal input.

                      I have also been trying to re learn life. I call them my practice dates. I really had no idea how to pick up girls or even talk to them after being in an unhealthy marriage for so many years. So I started practiced dates. Just inviting someone I knew that I could practice talking with.

                      I really didn't get into the practice dates too far before I found a girl that was a perfect fit. It all came down to being open to communicating and being myself. This has made things progress very quickly. We are talking zero to sixty, and that is with my foot on the breaks. LOL Being able to be myself and cutting out all the mind games has made this relationship very easy. And honestly I embrace the awkward moments. If we can communicate through the hard uncomfortable things then we will be able to tackle most any problem and learn how to support each other better.

                      So in a nutshell....Be open, be honest, and most of all be yourself. Do you really want someone to fall for you only to find out later that you were trying to be something you are not only to impress them???

                      Good luck, and please check back in sometimes.

                      Proactive
                      I am jealous that you are able to find a GF so quick and easy!

                      Though it seems that some people think that pick up is some time of bad wizardry, like manipulating women and so on. I do not criticize since that is a very typical view to it. But when you actually study, you realize that it is more about changing and improving yourself. Simple things like talking louder, holding eye contact and smiling more, being positive and out going.

                      Also you cannot be a total nerd who just sits in home alone 24/7 and plays video games. No girls will want to be part of that type of lifestyle. At least not majority of hot girls.

                      Probably I should write this on my first post. Learning dating and being good with women is not about being manipulative and being not who you are. It is actually the opposite, it is about the relearning to be yourself again and express yourself freely. How to improve yourself, deal with personal fears and build more interesting lifestyle so women naturally wants to join you company since you have cool lifestyle and they will stick around you.
                      BPEL: 5.4, 5.6, 5.8, 6.0, 6.2, 6.4, 6.6, 6.8, 7.0, 7.2, 7.25
                      MEG: 4.2, 4.3, 4.4, 4.5, 4.6, 4.7, 4.8, 4.9, 5.0, 5.1, 5.2, 5.3, 5.4, 5.5

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                      • #12
                        Well let's try to walk before we run. Just ask women you see random questions. What time is it? Don't just ask ones you want to date, ask all kinds. The more you do it it will become easier. Ask them for a cigarette even if you don't smoke. If you are that hot they will keep talking to you and want to know more about you. Don't overthink it. Don't get discouraged as some women may be having a bad day and not be nice to you. Good luck!
                        Dongo
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                        Last edited by Dongo; 07-10-2017, 12:25 PM.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Mantas View Post
                          The RSD guys do really teach well. Just one side effect of their teachings though is that there is very little said of love, relationships, marriage and plenty said about sex with multiple girls. So just keep in mind that in future, maybe 2years or 3years later you will have to deal with love separately. On a personal note I haven't been in love since 2013 and have slept with over 30 women during this time. As I said the last seven days was the craziest in my life with 7 girls in a 7 days period. Now I clearly see that that is a problem and I need to move past that.

                          The pickup guys teach and show to bed multiple women. You have to teach yourself how to fall in love and stick to love.

                          Good luck.
                          A candle loses nothing by lighting another candle

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                          • #14
                            That is a great tip! It seems like you are familiar with this stuff, Dongo!

                            Actually I have tried that during the day. I asked for directions like "Hi, do you know where is a subway/mall etc?".
                            Girls were very friendly and smiling but then I just say " Ok, thanks" and bounced off. Now I should learn how to transition to a longer conversation.

                            You mentioned talking with anybody, no matter if she is ugly or old. That is totally true. We were at nightclub with my friend and I told him to go to speak to some girls. And he never did in a whole night. Not a single one. Meanwhile I talked with 4 girls and only 1 girl rejected me. Like pick up artist says practice with any girl, practice like she is you dream girl, pull her home, get her legs spread and begging for sex and then you can just say " Ohh I am sorry, I cannot do it now." . Practice with any girl but fuck only hot ones!
                            Mantas
                            Senior Member
                            Last edited by Mantas; 07-10-2017, 12:28 PM.
                            BPEL: 5.4, 5.6, 5.8, 6.0, 6.2, 6.4, 6.6, 6.8, 7.0, 7.2, 7.25
                            MEG: 4.2, 4.3, 4.4, 4.5, 4.6, 4.7, 4.8, 4.9, 5.0, 5.1, 5.2, 5.3, 5.4, 5.5

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                            • #15
                              Well that doesn't sound evil and manipulative at all.
                              ALL THE WAY WITH GOOD OLE JAY!

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