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  1. 01-16-2021 #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigO View Post
    True, but this immigration was not Naturally occurring. It was funded, and for the most part illegal. We have states letting people in and getting the word out.

    They entice people to come in the hopes of gaining electors while providing travel means for many.
    My response wasn't aimed at the means and motivation. I just don't see it as a destruction of culture, as you do. Cultures evolve over time for many reasons - I don't think that's destructive. On the contrary, immigration is a net positive.
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    We don’t need to entice people to come here. There are plenty of people with families here and want to join them and also people who want to come here to avoid persecution. Some include those who favor liberal values and others who favor conservative values (say Cubans). As per the Statue of Liberty we were founded on the principal of “give me your tired your poor your huddled masses yearning to breathe free.”

    According to Rob Rosenstein:
    "Since leaving the department, I have often asked myself what we should have done differently, and no issue has dominated my thinking more than the zero tolerance immigration policy. It was a failed policy that never should have been proposed or implemented. I wish we all had done better."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Party View Post
    Im not so sure about that. I believe they, for the most part left each other alone, it’s a big country and over all Native American populations were small. Only when the settlers started expanding west did tribes have to relocate and bumping into fellow tribes. Led to Indian wars until they realized the whites were their one true common enemy.

    Indians hated other Indians and were always killing each other. Does anyone know any great contributions the American Indians made to mankind cause I sure as hell don't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CUSP82 View Post
    Does anyone know any great contributions the American Indians made to mankind cause I sure as hell don't.
    Smoking, but I wouldn't call it great.
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    Yes, its in decline, as is most of the world.

    Next question.
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    Quote Originally Posted by southernprince View Post
    Smoking, but I wouldn't call it great.
    Smoking? Are you kidding? The tobacco trade help to make this country great. It was our number 1 export. Unfortunately it also create Slave trade. The Good, The Bad, The Ugly.
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    Hmm so India is going great but I don't know if I should include it in the english speaking world .
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    Quote Originally Posted by CUSP82 View Post
    Indians hated other Indians and were always killing each other.
    Archeologists have long supported the causal relationship between high-casualty tribal warfare and Western contact, arguing that such contact greatly increases the scale and intensity of such warfare, and even if they were "always killing each other", how is that any sort of point? Like Europeans have not had a history of killing each other. Ever heard of the holocaust? And native death tolls due to colonization is estimated at 90%. 100 million dead.

    "... always killing each other" lord, what statement


    Quote Originally Posted by CUSP82 View Post
    Does anyone know any great contributions the American Indians made to mankind cause I sure as hell don't.
    Well, for one, the Mayans of Mexico were the first to use the zero in mathematics. Not much civilization without that 0.

    How about the edible plants domesticated by Native Americans which have become major staples all around the world. For example, corn (maize), sweet potatoes, peanuts, squashes and pumpkins, tomatoes, papayas, avocados, pineapples, guavas, chili peppers, chocolate (cacao), and many species of beans.

    Or you probably forgot about how natives of Peru discovered the medicinal use for quinine. Or, Canadian Indians knew how to prevent scurvy by eating plants rich in vitamin C, and they passed this information along to the Europeans. Those pilgrims wouldn't have lasted the winter without the information.

    And this is the one for all the marbles, from my PhD studies, Native American governments in eastern North America, particularly the League of the Iroquois, served as models of federated representative democracy to the Europeans and the American colonists.

    -> The United States government is based on such a system, whereby power is distributed between a central authority (the federal government) and smaller political units (the states).
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    Is the assertion that if left alone the Native American Indians would have developed the society that the English speaking world has?
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    Quote Originally Posted by CUSP82 View Post
    Is the assertion that if left alone the Native American Indians would have developed the society that the English speaking world has?
    We will never know .
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