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  1. 02-08-2012 #11
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    Here's some info from 1969 . This is happening NOW .

    New Order of Barbarians - transcript of tapes I-III | 100777.com

    And we ARE waking up !!
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    A beautiful human being died today--a man who had a conscience and who cared. If
    they had listened to his advice, 7 braves souls (the Challenger crew circa 1984)
    might still be alive today.

    May this man rest in peace.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DemOne View Post
    It's best to not listen to the bullshit you hear on the news. Most of the time it's incorrect information.

    By the way, I'm on food stamps ($200 a month...yeah, that really helps), been unemployed for almost two years through no fault of my own, was kicked off of unemployment because of the great governor of Florida doing unconstitutional things, have taken in less than $15,000 TOTAL in the past two years, and I pay a higher tax percentage than most of the top 10%.

    I hope you enjoy being enslaved by the states at my expense. Do you think people really chose to live in poverty?

    This isn't a thread for you to come in and start bashing one side or another, don't turn it into one.

    Edit: Oh, and by the way, this was pushed through by the Republicans/Tea Party members in Congress, not the "lefties" you like to villainize.
    Hang in there Dem - it'll get better.

    And more to Hanma's point, there's a lot of truth to that. The game has always been rigged BUT so many have been brainwashed so well, they actually think they can thrive in that sort of setup. There is a huge glass ceiling that EVERYONE is subject to and it's only been in the last 8 years has it really been exposed. But again, people are so brainwashed into thinking that's how things are "supposed" to be.
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    Personally I would rather see a drone flying around than a police helicopter. Besides it's cheaper and it looks really cool. Trust me if the government or the police want to spy on you or get you in any way they can do it far more easily than using a drone. To develope a set of guidelines for their use in case it's needed for some type of emergency isn't all that bad. I have a freind who is an air traffic controller and the amount of stuff he needs to keep track of in the sky is amazing. I don't know how he does it. Having some rules on airspace in case they are needed isn't necessarily an invasion of my freedom.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CUSP82 View Post
    Personally I would rather see a drone flying around than a police helicopter. Besides it's cheaper and it looks really cool. Trust me if the government or the police want to spy on you or get you in any way they can do it far more easily than using a drone. To develope a set of guidelines for their use in case it's needed for some type of emergency isn't all that bad. I have a freind who is an air traffic controller and the amount of stuff he needs to keep track of in the sky is amazing. I don't know how he does it. Having some rules on airspace in case they are needed isn't necessarily an invasion of my freedom.
    It's the intention behind it that's concerning and evil. Obama signed NDAA, even when his administration included the detainment of US citizens without trial or proof. What does he say? "Oh guiz I'll make sure not to use it huurr durr" (Added huurr durr to highlight is retardedness).
    Who is to say he won't use it? He allowed it. It's always the intention that matters. And say he doesn't use it, but this allows any future nut case to use it.

    Same with SOPA, ACTA, TPP. It's the intention. They'll make it look like it's to stop piracy, improve negotiations, all that lies politics usually come up with, while they hide their real intentions. You know about SOPA and ACTA, it will encourage ISP providers to spy on you and allow corporations to sue websites to death. TPP is much worse.

    It's the same thing with the drones. Gathering up people like cattle. Who is to say they won't use it on protesters? There are seriously demented people who hold power, sadly, and they will misuse it.

    These acts my come in a guise as protectors of our freedom or holding our best interests at heart, but by judging these very people's past actions and corrupted histories, you should be very cautious and somewhat cynical.
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    Get obama out!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irishfan View Post
    Get obama out!
    This has absolutely nothing to do with Obama.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DemOne View Post
    This has absolutely nothing to do with Obama.
    Correct.
    This is because of our sleazeball congressmen. House included.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NP97 View Post
    Correct.
    This is because of our sleazeball congressmen. House included.
    Sleazeball? There's no need to be polite here, no one will complain.
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