Let's talk politics.

[Tamora]

Ooooh...just tried to edit my post and the text box was blank...never happened before. Can't be arsed to copy and paste...so I'll just add here.

These refugees think they'll come to European countries and everything will be hunky-dory. The reality of the situation is going to be a lot different!

[DickerSchwanz]

Merkel knew what she did. There is no intention to solve any of the reasons for the migration.(end war)
It was an opportunity to get cheap labour under the cover of humanity. Lots of young men able to work for little money. The syrians are motivated.

German labour forces are very keen on keeping wages high. Other huge parts are for varying reasons not keen to work at all.

The results will be more money up to the elites and less to the natives and bottom of workforce. The overall costs for will also be paid by the bottom of the workforce through benefit cuts for them.

The elites dont care who the workforce is as long as it is cheap.
The problems through the migration are also left to the bottom of society.

The political correctness and blindness throughout the official media is staggering. Totally detached from reality.

The thing is there is a huge dissent growing in germany without any representation of politics or media. This is quiet dangerous.

I fear this will end horrible.

[Tamora]

...I fear this will end horrible.

I think you're right!

[closed224]

So we all know and understand that we at the bottom tiers, or common person tiers are the same and not benefitting. Why do we insist on pretending that we need the upper tiers to lead our countries? Why is it ok for a Donald Trump to become famously wealthy on Section 8 housing taking advantage of the poorest in his city, and then come forward as if he represents any of us? Why do we waste all of our emotions hating those in our same circumstance, but from a different culture, or maybe with a different color, or God forbid a different religion.
We are being f%%ked in the pooper just as badly as these refugees. We are the ones carrying the burden of bad decisions, and yet we feed into the problem by maintaining the status quo. Why? Don't trust anybody that is affiliated with these patterns. Work hard to break free of these patterns yourself, or I guarantee the escalations will continue. We will continue to lose. THIS I PROMISE YOU.

[DickerSchwanz]

Divide and conquer
Create Problem serve "solution".

The whole planet is constructed that way. And if consent is created through the people the "elites" hurry to put up a new problem.

Works like a charm since thousands of years.

The instigated "revolutions" throughout the middle east are planned and the consequences are controlled. The rise of Islamic State was wanted. No enemy no need for a power to "protect" us.

The problem of the non elites is that they are too stupid and naive to see through the games played with them. I thought the internet would help educating people in having at least the information on a plate but it turns into just another tool of the elites controlling people.(similar in how democratic systems serving the elites and not the people).

Needs some leap of conciousness I guess.

[JonPop]

Bill tried to cheer up Hillary this morning by reminding her that Nelson
Mandela wasn't elected president until after he had served 27 years in
prison.

[Tamora]

...The instigated "revolutions" throughout the middle east are planned and the consequences are controlled. The rise of Islamic State was wanted. No enemy no need for a power to "protect" us...

Don't know if I agree with that Dickie...there will always be some kind of threat from some rogue dictator or militant organisation.

I.S. was never wanted but could have been predicted...they are extremists. They do not want to educate their "laws", they want to enforce them through violence.

[mR984]

From all that people who is rushing in EU, only 10-15% are trully refuges. Others want to live from social givings, about 300EUR or maybe more for one member of family. Germany needs cheep working labour, non qualified.

In case someone knows Serbian, here is a story from doctor who spend a day with migrants in park
https://www.facebook.com/miodrag.gav...23499171254191

[DickerSchwanz]

Don't know if I agree with that Dickie...there will always be some kind of threat from some rogue dictator or militant organisation.

I.S. was never wanted but could have been predicted...they are extremists. They do not want to educate their "laws", they want to enforce them through violence.

I.S. and other extremists had no chance in a strongly lead Iraq, Lybia and Syria.

Of course the dictators in the countrys were no saints. But less people would be dead for a long time to come with them still in charge. People didnt leave these countrys in millions.
Also none of them were threatening the countrys that attacked them in an attempt to enforce their system onto lets say the US.

The history of the last 50 years in interventions in different cultures has a horrible track record if it comes to the common people.

So the intentions for these interventions are not considering the people but the elites only. Whenever the dictators corporate they are held in place. When not they are put down. Either by direct attack like in iraq or in giving weapons and help to terrorist organizations.

We all should know that al qaida was hugely helped into arms and money by the US elites. As are terrorist organizations in syria.

The story will obviously play out in the way that IS will allowed to destroy syria and weaken assad into submission until the US(elites) will come in as cherished helper who defeated the evil terrorists.
But things need to get very worse cause the russians have a military base at a syrian port.

Well whatever its just horrible games at the back of the people.

When I say US I dont mean the people sitting on their porch in tenesse lol. The soldiers and people are just played.

Its really bad observing politics and how people act in europe. But when watching the US I only can lol or cry.

Ah I hate all of that politics shit. Should have spared that rant
rant..
Sometimes I think all thats needed is regional politics like a mayor. Any detached politian that doesnt live in your neighbourhood is or turns into a criminal.

[ATP]

I think we may see the Russians taking care of IS much sooner then any effort led by the US. I hate to say this, (and I mean I really hate to) but all the facts* to date point to IS becoming what it is - not because of US intervention in Iraq in the first place - but because of the US' ridiculous, lack luster, and myopic intervention from the beginning of the Libya debacle and all the way through brushing away the line some nimrod made in the sand in Syria and ending up in a vacated Iraq.

*Facts as I see them based on open intel. No conspiracy theory necessary, no assembly required.