Proof of god

**longerlastingnoob** · 11-04-2015

What is the fascination with cats with religious people?

**BigO** · 11-04-2015

Originally Posted by HyperDoomDerp

well they say in the poem 'I am meth'

"Just try me once and I might let you go,
But try me twice, and I'll own your soul."

and the second time I did amps the night I slept I had dreams telling me I sold my soul to the devil for a picture that night so the coincidence is to much . my only hope is selling your soul to the devil does not mean your going to hell and means something else. ill just have to wait and find out :/

The bible does not say men will go to hell. It says that wicked men will be no more. They will truly die. There is no eternal fire for people.

That was made up long ago by man. When you die you don't go to heaven either, there is a place for men that are not to go to heaven.

This is specifically addressed in revelations. 144,000 will take a place in heaven.

**ScarletSkull** · 11-05-2015

Originally Posted by rippem

you believe in god? I have nothing against gay folks but if you go tell a Catholic priest your gay you may not want to here what he has to say. And to Scarlett he is the most loving father? Really he had his only child crucified for our sins! I wouldn't do that to my son!! And marry having a kid without having sex? If my wife came home and never had sex and told me that I kick her ass! Lol...PEACE!!

God didn't put Jesus up on the cross, humans did. One of the most loving things God ever did for us is give us free will, which unfortunately backfires on him in cases of Jesus being crucified, Ted Bundy, and the like.

**ScarletSkull** · 11-05-2015

So uh, a few more things...

The Catholic church doesn't somehow have the inside line on God's will. I'd hazard a guess that they have been acting quite the opposite in many ways for a long time.

I don't take the Bible literally. There is certainly a TON of truth to it, imo, but I can't believe the whole "if the Bible says it, I believe it" kinda thing.

You can't sit here and tell me that oral traditions that went on for hundreds of years and then were finally written down by one person didn't become, oh, changed a bit in the process. Let's be practical here. Even the creation story in Genesis contradicts itself in the order of which things were created. There are contradictions all over the place, which is to be expected when you have that many authors and viewpoints compiled into one book.

That is why I don't believe the Bible is to be taken as the 100% word of God. Not to mention that SO much of it was written for a particular cultural context, and the meanings have been lost over the years. You know, like Levitical law prohibits men from cutting the hair on the sides of their face. Which I'm sure still has a meaning somewhere, but it isn't like some kind of make or break "zomg I am going to hell" for all those of you who shave your faces and have short hair.

I will never understand why people seem to insist, on both sides, that evolution and creation are somehow mutually exclusive. That makes absolutely no sense. God said "Let there be LIGHT!" Am I the only one who sees BIG BANG written all over that? Oh and then let's go back to the rest of the creation story, which interestingly lines up pretty well with how things would have evolved aside from the whole 7 day thing. Not to mention that you cannot create or destroy energy. Where did it all originate? Before the big bang? Where did all this energy even come from?

SO yeah, the Bible. I think it's a great book, but shouldn't be taken as the literal and complete word of God. Unfortunately it seems that over the last couple milennia especially people have been grabbing a hold of the parts that they want to grab a hold of and then ignoring the other parts and then God becomes this horrible vindictive THING.

Masturbation is a fantastic example of this. Why? Because it is sooooo sinful according to the church but the BIBLE IS TOTALLY SILENT ON THE MATTER.

You would think... if it is such a sin, given the fact that 99.999999999% of the human population has masturbated, it would mention it. The Bible does prohibit us from having sex with animals, though. So seems to me that if this activity that 99.999999999% of the human population has done one time or another is actually sinful, the Bible would actually SAY SO.

So there was this one part where this dude named Onan was having sex with his dead brother's wife but pulled out and God got mad at him for doing that (in case you are interested, it's because, iirc, she had been childless with his brother and he had to marry her but a child she had with him would have been attributed to his brother and he apparently must have not liked his brother much so he didn't want her to get pregnant... bear with me, it's been a while since I read that part).

And that's where the "masturbation is sinful" thing came from.

But look at the CENTURIES of shaming that has come about from church leaders taking that one thing and totally twisting it to mean something it doesn't. And it happens all the time. And then atheists be like... I don't believe in God because of all the shitty things that have been done in his name. AND I CAN'T BLAME THEM.

Really kinda pisses me off sometimes. I mean... I'm certainly not a genius or anything but I know the difference between wanking it vs. having sex and pulling out

God is not a horrible vindictive THING. God is love. Period. He loves us, that's all we really need to know. He made us, he wants the best for us, but he gives us the free will to make our own decisions and sometimes we make crappy ones but we can't blame him for that.

So there, my $.02.

**ScarletSkull** · 11-05-2015

and hot damn I write a lot sometimes

**wannaride** · 11-05-2015

Originally Posted by HyperDoomDerp

Gender balance , dreams , the fact we had to of been created the theory of us popping out of nowhere is wrong, perfect night and day balance with the moon and sun.

can you guys think of any more?

and I wonder what happens when we die? pretty scary actually if u think about it long enough

Hmm, well the way I see it...

1. Gender balance doesn't really fascinate me. 2. Dreams? That's proof of cool brain activity! 3. There's no theory that claims we're created by popping out of nowhere, but if that actually was a theory, yes - it'd be unsubstantiated. 4. Perfect night and day balance is proof of orbits (and the majesty of our manmade calendars and clocks!)

I've spent years thinking about death. I still do. This year a handful of my friends died, so our mortality comes to mind pretty often. Me personally, I think when I die, it'll be just as it was before I was born: nothing. As I'd recall, I had it pretty good before I was born

Hopefully it's just as fine when I'm gone.

**wannaride** · 11-05-2015

PS-- just for laughs-- My friend who's also involved in PE was chatting with me yesterday about death, actually. He mentioned, "Well, when we die, at least we'll be buried with dicks twice as long and girthy!" It made me chuckle

**Sequoia Tree** · 11-05-2015

Originally Posted by ScarletSkull

and hot damn I write a lot sometimes

At least yours is easy to read. Somebody a few pages back wrote one huge never-ending paragraph that literally took me about 10 seconds to scroll to the bottom of.