Proof of god

[Jackxxx]

By the way in my opinion Richard Dawkins is an absolute ignorant. The way I see him, is if you raise a kid in a house and never let him go out. Never let him study history. Just teach him mathematics, physics, society, but nothing more for his whole life. Of course he will grow up with intelligence, and I can guarantee you that through mathematics he will find a way to scientifically explain EVERYTHING that is unknown for him. When in reality history and the outside world is a complete different story that he just doesn't know. That is Dawkins. Perhaps a guy with a severe trauma from childhood.

[longerlastingnoob]

Good stories all the same.

[Wolfemother]

To go back to the main thread. Where is the evidence for God? Put the old outdated texts like the bible and kuran to one side. . What modern proof do we have?



I am objective and prepared to look at any evidence put in front of me.

[Sequoia Tree]

What's so bad about believing there are fairies in your garden? I hear they keep weeds out!

They smoke all my weed

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[CUSP82]

His existence cannot be proved; we all know that. That's why this thread is neat. We can talk about what we all think but no one really knows, well except me of course and I'm not telling!

[longerlastingnoob]

To go back to the main thread. Where is the evidence for God? Put the old outdated texts like the bible and kuran to one side. . What modern proof do we have?



I am objective and prepared to look at any evidence put in front of me.

Very few people give straight answers when asked that question. The ones that do don't have any. Also willing to be open minded with what is put forward.

[Jackxxx]

To go back to the main thread. Where is the evidence for God? Put the old outdated texts like the bible and kuran to one side. . What modern proof do we have?



I am objective and prepared to look at any evidence put in front of me.

Modern proof theres none. Simple because they are not here anymore. And as I mentioned before, it is not God. It is The Gods. It is very well known that the concept of monotheism was forced mostly by Romans.

But the same happens with everything. Can you prove that George Washington really existed? I mean there are texts and descendants but is there modern proof? Introduce me to him in real life and I will believe he exist. Otherwise, Washington is just a myth.

[rippem]

Jackxxx I love reading your stories. I personally don't believe what the Bible says. It was written by man not THE MAN.. could you explain why if all the people like god, Jesus and marry were so powerful and great why didn't anyone keep the body's preserved for all of us to worship? And how did marry get pregnant with out having sex? If your wife came home from not having sex with you for over a year and said guess what honey were having a kid..I bet you wouldn't believe her! And it only happened to one person? Really? And call the police station and tell them your gonna sacrifice your only child so we can be forgiven for our sins and tell us what happens to you..I bet if you did it you would go to PRISON FOR MURDER! I don't believe in the bible but I do believe something greater then us put us here. And I also believe when we die we die and dont go anywhere but the ground. When you go to church take a look around at the people there. A lot of old folks worried about when they die were there gonna go..and the other half have some type of problems financialy or emotionaly..either way 90% of them have issues and seek some type of help from the church that's why they go..jmo..PEACE!!

[Jackxxx]

Well first, do not "believe", nor "believe". Know or do not know.
With that being said, most of what ancient texts say, IT IS TRUE. It just happens that throughout thousands of years information has been lost, mixed, modified (intentionally and unintentionally) But the foundation of these sacred texts is real.

It happens also that these texts conform the history of thousands of years in a few hundred pages. Imagine if tell you the whole star wars saga in 5 pages. You won't understand at all the real story of the movies. Same happens with this.

Imagine for a minute that you could take the bible, the torah, the mahabarata, the quran, then mix them all in one piece, then stretch them in a one mile square area. You will have the pieces scattered all over with huge blank spaces everywhere. THAT is what we have, and those blank spaces are being filled up by the information provided by all ancient civilizations combined. So we can put the pieces together in this giant puzzle.

To answer your questions, When you refer to God, which one are you talking about? They are all Gods. Then when you refer to Jesus body, his body was taken away by them. originally according to the story it was put in the cave as part of the tradition but then it was extracted. Mary, she escaped after Jesus assassination to avoid prosecution. And even though it is unclear where did she die, there was no way for anybody to track her body and save it for worship.

Mary got pregnant through artificial insemination. Jesus IS NOT a demi God (half human half God) but a full God. Mary was just the carrier. According to the story: "Two angels came down from the heavens a few days before to warn Mary that she will get pregnant" And of course we know there is no such thing as people with wings and a halo flying down like doves. They were astronauts who had their own technological way to come down here and communicate with humans.

And that story dod not happen only to her. It is just that this specific story is the one that influence us the most in our modern civilization. But It happened also in the case of Utnapistim (Noah). Noah was not the son of a human. Noah was artificially inseminated in his mother and was direct descendant of Enki. Lamech was his human father but not biological father.

[upsize-me]

I have this suspicion that everyone claiming to believe in a god is just trolling the rest of us. Surely nobody can literally believe all that nonsense? But alas, they will violently defend the world-view they were brainwashed into as a child. Had they been born in a different time and/or place, they would be just as resolute in their beliefs, but over a different set of mythologies. How many people identify with a religion today, due to their ancestors being tortured into joining it? And who many countries today are predominately one religion due to recent colonization or missionary infestation? The fact religion is cultural should make one question how much truth any of them have.

Science is not a religion, although being practiced by humans it is still subject to various biases. Science is about building our collective knowledge based on repeatable observations, while welcoming contrary evidence as an opportunity to improve upon those theories. Religion is about power and control, denying (or killing) that which threatens it. The positive-trait individuals infected by it are not evidence for religion being a positive thing, rather if it created purely negative individuals, it would not be an effective religion and would not survive through generations. A virus requires a healthy host to survive.

On the proof of the existence of a god, we're still waiting. Even just some credible evidence would be great, but we still have yet to find any of that.