Proof of god

[closed224]

Sorry Dontrike he said people don't come back from the dead. I have several times. I didn't say that means there is a God or God's only that UKSkeptik didn't believe it. No matter how many aliens I have seen, and no matter how many times I have seen or spoken with God is going to change his, or your mind. The fact that God created man just to have me here will not convince you either.

Simply stated though. People do come back from the dead, and some of us have told you about God. It is documented and does happen. Your choice whether to believe or not. Proves free will.

I won't waste time trying to convince you of God/Gods. Just pointing out the come back from the dead and talk about it experience happens quite often.

[Uk_sceptic]

Sorry, but having died 3 times in my life, and having read many accounts of others who have died and come back, I have to say you are wrong. The eye witness testimony is just not believed by you. It doesn't mean it hasn't happened.

Suppose my name sake proves my motives but i also said if i do end up in an after life I'll stand up and tell all my dead friends how wrong i was. Its good to know you were strong enough to beat death 3 times but may i ask how long you were dead for? For me, people who see ghosts, aliens or god may have had a brain spasm (whether alive or dead for a brief moment) of some sort and the fact they believe/follow such things could bring them to the forefront of their unconscious mind. Like i say, until it happens to me it never happens. I prayed to god once when i put the lottery on and i still work for a living

[Uk_sceptic]

But you can't prove it unless you can recreate the result. Some people die and didn't even know it, others die and see utter darkness. One experience does not prove it.

Hundreds of thousands have "seen aliens", but we have yet to actually have proof of them, and plenty still say they saw Elvis recently.

For something the scope of God we need evidence and the The Bible was tampered with so many times over the ages that we can't even be certain if those words are God's or not.

My words put differently

[HyperDoomDerp]

If we evolved from apes then apes would still be evolving. Since there are no apes that can talk I can't believe in the theory of evolution.

There should be one species that is "almost human" but there arent.

Apes are apes and man is managed we did not come from apes.

aboriginal Australians are the missing link

[longerlastingnoob]

If we evolved from apes then apes would still be evolving. Since there are no apes that can talk I can't believe in the theory of evolution.

There should be one species that is "almost human" but there arent.

Apes are apes and man is managed we did not come from apes.

But they are. Quandisa pointed out that they are not only able to communicate with humans through sign language, but can teach it as well. As has been pointed out a few times, evolution doesn't happen overnight, contrary to belief of religious people, it's continental drift slow, you won't see apes talking in your lifetime but you would have seen some evolutionary steps.

[longerlastingnoob]

I think the confusion is you are thinking we evolved from the apes we live among today.

[upsize-me]

I think the confusion is you are thinking we evolved from the apes we live among today.

This is a very common problem. People think we're at the top of some linear evolution, or are some end goal of a species. We're just another branch in that tree, living, dying, adapting and evolving along with all the other animals. Just because we're a bit more clever than the others doesn't make us special, but we are the only ones capable of the abstract thought required to fabricate magical creators.

Here's a free online children's book that does an excellent job of showing evolution in action:

Little Changes|evolution for kids,teaching resources,rinkidinks

And a very relevant Calvin and Hobbes
https://www.pegym.com/forums/attachm...id=81393&stc=1

[closed224]

The thing is I see God/God's all day everyday. I see Santa Claus, even when it is me being the giver. Any show of compassion, togetherness, love. They are all a piece of God. Everything good and wonderful is part of God. Creator or creation it is all the same for me. I get to choose, and create. Also I have to acknowledge I see things that I did not choose or create. It is a very short step for me to say God created everything, because I believe everything is part of God.

What I saw during death does not compare to what I see while awake. I also see a tremendous amount of horror. That is part and parcel with the human experience so far. I dream of all people stopping the horror at the exact same time. Then we will indeed be God.

[Jackxxx]

What about cave men, what technology did they have to survive? Im sure we have stemmed from them?. Nature surely didn't eradicate the cave man then we were created surrounded by the technology to survive?

Which cave men?

[Uk_sceptic]

It is a very short step for me to say God created everything, because I believe everything is part of God.

You must surely accept that everything that is bad in the world is created by god too then? Its easy to accept all the good in the world was created by god because that is how everyone would like to see it but in reality (i use that word loosely in this subject) if god created everything, including giving man free will then he must accept that he balls'd up when he created the likes of Osama bin Laden, bundy, the manson family etc....? Whenever bad things happen, believers blame it on man's doing, but if god made man then he is to blame also, but that isn't accepted by believer's which is hypocritical.
Another point to make is, if god made everything, did he make the devil?