Immigrant situation in Europe and sexual crimes toward women

[Jackxxx]

Is rape currently a death penality offense ?
In any case rape would attract significant jail time in the US..

I am not 100% sure but as far as I understand, no, rape is not a death penalty offense. But with these savages that obama is bringing in, we need a whole different penal code. Therefore if any of these rape a woman, we, the people should hang them on trees in public display for everybody so they know better next time.

[bored]

There is a reason lengthy immigration processes were put in place by previous generations. It was to weed out the criminals and others looking to take advantage of our system.

These "refugees" will not assimilate to the values and cultural legacies of their new found homelands. A large majority of the islamic ones believe in Sharia Law which includes stoning women, hanging homosexuals, etc. They have no respect for women like western countries and to expect them to immigrate in swarms and instantly change their beliefs is naive and ends up with women being raped like what happen in Germany. There is a reason Sweden has become a joke.

Now before anyone says I don't know what I'm talking about I live in a town with one of the highest population of "refugees" from the Iraq war. They do not follow our laws, most of them don't have jobs, the ones that do have jobs are usually liquor shop owners, smoke shops, or Cash 4 Gold scammers. They ignore traffic laws and often stand in the middle of the roads or jaywalk frequently. They don't learn English aside from the minimal amount to get by and speak their language 99% of the time unless they want something from you. Our taxpayer dollars are paying for them to do all of this and I don't know how that is or why that is. It smells like corruption, or someone high up in government made a really bad deal and now we the people are paying for it.

There is an immigration process for a reason. So we can have people who actually want to be here to assimilate and be a part of our country instead of take advantage and disrespect it.

[PurpleOnes]

Those who have been caught with rape from these immigrants have not got any sentances to my knowledge.

Either let off on parole or like 1 year since supposedly they are underage. So that puts a certain image to them about the laws here.

On another note if a citizen from here would do exact shit they have been doing for example this one African guy walked to a woman and told her straight up without knowing her that he wants sex which lead to him following her to the corner and placing a knife by her neck while at the same time putting his dirty hands inside her panties.

She got out from him by scratching and biting but still rape leaves trauma for a woman for her whole life and her future relationships. It's different from a robbery for example since you might forget about it but rape stays in mind and physiologically is really bad.

He got nothing to my knowledge and police only does sort of stating the facts that something happend afterwards when it happend not actually preventing. If a Finnish person would do the same thing he would get like 10-20 years from that.

Sick of these animals to be honest who are just so full of themselves. Do not understand why they need such protection when they clearly ain't acting like victims.

In Germany police is not even doing anything about smaller crimes done by these immigrants but only focusing on more serious ones like rapes or murders. Things like assaults and for example if someone robs you they do not particularily care that is what I heard.

I thought when the whole migration started that only people from Syria are let in. Goverment puts statistics about Somalian and Iraqi for some reason since they migrate a lot here. Why the hell are these people let in?

I think there is something dirty going in European Union and something that is destructive and not smart since this would not work. These people from third world countries have no plans working except sitting at home and collecting check and then doing all kinds of messed up shit like rapes and other criminal acts.

Borders should be closed here and if you would try to come to this land by force you will be shot. It looks like some kind of invasion that is let to be done.

Europe will not be America as far as this multicultural union. Only thing will happend from this is that migrants will become majority and other people minority and they will try to make European countries islamic. Since Finnish people are not making babies a lot and if yearly there are let 30-50 thousand where majority aren't working that also increases unemployment. While these migrant reproduce like rabbits while having big families to begin with.

Or if people will wake up it well be a huge mess to get these ''migrants'' back to where they came from since like I mentioned before if they are already in a country the will not leave peacefully.

[Tamora]

Purps...I can't see how a law would only apply for one and not for another...we are all equal under the law.

[PurpleOnes]

Purps...I can't see how a law would only apply for one and not for another...we are all equal under the law.

Sadly it does and it comes imo from somewhere higher than our laws probably EU laws.

I was thinking that one option to get out of this mess for European countries is for one country to sort of lead by example. What I mean by this is leave European Union and close it's borders while aiming military forces to push those immigrants away from the country atleast those who are not doing anything or are troublesome.

It might hit on the economy of that country but I believe that country should build better relationship with near countries instead of worrying about whole European Union.

That should lead as example and other countries would leave EU while closing their borders and doing the same.

Clearly I think that our goverment here is not that stupid that it will go on purpose against it's own people but there is some higher European Unions contract that tells them to.

People are getting more and more pissed about this immigrant issue in Europe and soon they will have enough.

Goverment can not allow protest which is one thing they can do and I also learned today that there is apparently a European contract I think it's called Lissabon contract which was put in place in 2007 where police can shoot you if you protest by masses and try to sort of destruct the goverment or aim towards making it crumble.

Other outcome is that there will be more and more immigrants who come from Africa and Islamic countries where after certain years your countries own people will become majority and they will continue to rape, attack and rob people. While demanding the countries to change their laws towards more Islamic ones.

Many people who have more money this whole situation is not touching them.. they do not care until there will be cuts from their money to support these immigrants.

For many others also until the issue does not personally touch their money or their family they will not do anything. So basicly waiting until their wife or daughter gets raped or they will get robbed.

There is also the group who support these immigrants who rape their own citizens by making anti-protests meaning if a group protests for closing the borders these dipshits protest against racism. So because a big amount of people want borders to be closed so the flow of '' who knows'' will be stopped they are all of a sudden racist.

Keep in mind these who are at these anti-protests are white and many white females too who also are for transexual and homosexuals , animals and all that. Not saying that those things are bad or anything but these people are often trying to protect all kinds of things ranging a lot.

Police here also hides the statistic of these rapes and assaults. There was this woman who was Finnish woman and she came to protest , she had all black clothes and was hiding her face. She had a sign with a date , place and a text '' I was raped ......(name of the place in the city). Police only then starts to do something.

So if someone feels that a law against them is not harsh they will get full of themselves and start to abuse it. Let's say in some state in US laws against certain drug kind is not strict at all but loose people will find about that and start selling that drug in masses for profit until goverment will start doing something.

[Pegasus]

I don't understand why the Turks etc are not getting more help to look after refugees in situ and the border is not closed at Greece ? Seems like a large sign has been put up saying all can enter with no problem and then the Euro Zone is surprised when they do.

By the way the end of the latest crisis will not end the flow now it is established . There are allways wars etc going on .

[marinera]

There is a reason lengthy immigration processes were put in place by previous generations. It was to weed out the criminals and others looking to take advantage of our system.

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In 20th century, there have been higher immigration rates in some Countries that what we are seeing from Africa and Middle East toward Europe. Think to US and Canada, or the migrations of Italians toward Germany. There are about 300,000 immigrants per year in the whole EU, which counts, how many, 750 millions of inhabitants? It shouldn't be a big problem. I guess US still get more immigrants, both legal and illegal, nowadays, then EU is facing.

It is big problem because EU is not a federal state, it is a private Banks association and nothing else. We have one currency, but different politics, laws, and whatever; not even a common Army. Hungary builds a wall, no one does nothing - hey, could you imagine Los Angeles building a wall to avoid immigrants coming in?

[marinera]

Neat of propaganda spreaded hysterya, there isn't any rape epidemy in Europe. There are some ethnicities, among immigrants, that are less respectful of women; others have the same respect, others again have even more respect that you can see in some Countries of the West, where the number of crimes against women is absurdely high.


According to the art. 14 of the Universal Declaration Of Human Rights (the most universal legal paper in the World), every Country who has signed the declaration or ratified it has to give protection to refugees; this right is exempt of recprocity, so if the Country the refugee is coming from has not signed the UDHR or any other similar convention, still the country who has accepted the UDHR has to protect them and can't repatriate him.

Then, we have economic immigrants; they are not refugee, so they could be repatriate; the problem is that repatriating them will carry them back again in most of cases, and anyway will probably cost more resources than just helping them and giving them some kind of job. It is doable. Also, be aware that to repatriate an immigrant, will need the cooperation of the Country where the immigrant is coming from; you can't just get an airbus and carry people in another Country' land, if there isn't a treatie, not even if that people are coming from that very same land.

Now, the real point behind all these is : who has transformed the places where these people are fleeing from, both immigrants and refugee, in hell? The West. The USA and the EU. France is crying 114 deaths by hands of terrorists. But before that has bombed Syria violating the Internationa Law and killing more innocent people than terrorists; bombing always does that, if you didn't know. Who gave to Gaddafy, Saddam Hussein, Bin Laden and other bady guys the power they abused of and still are abusing today? The West. And before that, who invaded Eritrea, Lybia, Tunisia, Algeria, India, Malaysia ....should I go on?

So, instead than screaming because they 'are raping our women and taking our resources', we should acknowledge that we are the cause of what we are seeing today. We took their lands, resources, raped theirs women, we did everything we are accusing them for. But we did that for real and in big numbers, and these are a well documented facts, not the low level politic propaganda of some cheap newspapers and magazines.

[Pegasus]

In 20th century, there have been higher immigration rates in some Countries that what we are seeing from Africa and Middle East toward Europe. Think to US and Canada, or the migrations of Italians toward Germany. There are about 300,000 immigrants per year in the whole EU, which counts, how many, 750 millions of inhabitants? It shouldn't be a big problem. I guess US still get more immigrants, both legal and illegal, nowadays, then EU is facing.

It is big problem because EU is not a federal state, it is a private Banks association and nothing else. We have one currency, but different politics, laws, and whatever; not even a common Army. Hungary builds a wall, no one does nothing - hey, could you imagine Los Angeles building a wall to avoid immigrants coming in?

There was a big influx into Australia in the decades after ww2 from Europe Italy ,Greece and uk particularly . They were hard working people . There was some concern they would not assimilate as there were large city areas with a Italian or greek majority where they spoke Italian or greek . Of course the next generation was not so concerned with Italian culture and laughed that modern Italy was closer to Australian culture than it was to the Italy of their parents time. We got a great coffee culture out of it and they added to Australian cultural development .

So the first question is are the new immigrants hard working people who will add to euro cultural development in a positive way?. Second will they assimilate (even if it takes a generation or 2 )? So will they call themselves French or German or European or will they say they are arab.? Third are the million or 2 currently on their way all there is ? Now I can answer 3 for you right now, no they are not .

[Pegasus]

Neat of propaganda spreaded hysterya, there isn't any rape epidemy in Europe. There are some ethnicities, among immigrants, that are less respectful of women; others have the same respect, others again have even more respect that you can see in some Countries of the West, where the number of crimes against women is absurdely high.


According to the art. 14 of the Universal Declaration Of Human Rights (the most universal legal paper in the World), every Country who has signed the declaration or ratified it has to give protection to refugees; this right is exempt of recprocity, so if the Country the refugee is coming from has not signed the UDHR or any other similar convention, still the country who has accepted the UDHR has to protect them and can't repatriate him.

Then, we have economic immigrants; they are not refugee, so they could be repatriate; the problem is that repatriating them will carry them back again in most of cases, and anyway will probably cost more resources than just helping them and giving them some kind of job. It is doable. Also, be aware that to repatriate an immigrant, will need the cooperation of the Country where the immigrant is coming from; you can't just get an airbus and carry people in another Country' land, if there isn't a treatie, not even if that people are coming from that very same land.

Now, the real point behind all these is : who has transformed the places where these people are fleeing from, both immigrants and refugee, in hell? The West. The USA and the EU. France is crying 114 deaths by hands of terrorists. But before that has bombed Syria violating the Internationa Law and killing more innocent people than terrorists; bombing always does that, if you didn't know. Who gave to Gaddafy, Saddam Hussein, Bin Laden and other bady guys the power they abused of and still are abusing today? The West. And before that, who invaded Eritrea, Lybia, Tunisia, Algeria, India, Malaysia ....should I go on?

So, instead than screaming because they 'are raping our women and taking our resources', we should acknowledge that we are the cause of what we are seeing today. We took their lands, resources, raped theirs women, we did everything we are accusing them for. But we did that for real and in big numbers, and these are a well documented facts, not the low level politic propaganda of some cheap newspapers and magazines.

The Australian solution to all the legal stuff works fine .

I remember all these countries crying for help and the west having a guilt trip because we didn't intervene . Now we are supposed to have a guilt trip because we did . Sigh I just think the west is into blaming itself . So I reject that argument.