Immigrant situation in Europe and sexual crimes toward women

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There are about 300,000 immigrants per year in the whole EU, which counts, how many, 750 millions of inhabitants? It shouldn't be a big problem.

False statistic. There are over a million refugees in just 2015. Source: Migrant crisis: Migration to Europe explained in graphics - BBC News

And the immigration statistics (not even counting refugees) is much higher.

I think you are mistaken about the difference between refugees and *legal* immigration. We are discussing refugees who are supposed to be seeking asylum, but rather seem to be a big disruption that are taking advantage of kind countries.

[marinera]

It is for you euro to argue 1 & 2.
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Your fellow euro suggest a first world lifestyle is being provided to whoever turns up

Your fellow euro

Right. You tried to put that in my mouth, now you say it is 'my fellow euro' that said that.

[marinera]

False statistic. There are over a million refugees in just 2015. Source: Migrant crisis: Migration to Europe explained in graphics - BBC News

And the immigration statistics (not even counting refugees) is much higher.

I think you are mistaken about the difference between refugees and *legal* immigration. We are discussing refugees who are supposed to be seeking asylum, but rather seem to be a big disruption that are taking advantage of kind countries.

Actully, your source says that migrants+refugee are over 1 million, and that is mixing immigrants from ASIA and Middle East with immigrants coming from everywhere; and also people who move from an european country to another.

Anyway, let's say that they are 1 million per year, and let's say that there 500 millions of inhabitants in Europe. This means that in 50 years immigrants will be 10% of original population. Which is quite an ordinary rate of immigration.

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Actully, your source says that migrants+refugee are over 1 million, and that is mixing immigrants from ASIA and Middle East with immigrants coming from everywhere; and also people who move from an european country to another.

Anyway, let's say that they are 1 million per year, and let's say that there 500 millions of inhabitants in Europe. This means that in 50 years immigrants will be 10% of original population. Which is quite an ordinary rate of immigration.

The source is specifically showing people who are coming through Greece and Italy to reach Germany from Syria and other north african & middle eastern countries.

You are comparing the entire population of Europe, that's not accurate.

As you said before, some countries are not going to allow any refugees, and most will allow only a bit.
Sweden is sending 80,000 back. Sweden Seeks to Deport Tens of Thousands of Asylum Seekers - Bloomberg Business

Really about a million migrants are in Germany alone (look at the picture that I linked before). We're not talking ALL of Europe. Anyway, Germany has a population of about 80 million. So a million is 1.25% of the population. You can't just drop 1.25% of the population in who have no job and don't speak the language and say that is a good thing.

That's how things like this happen REVEALED: 1,000+ Migrants Brawl, Rape, Sexually Assault, And Steal At ONE German Train Station On New Year's Eve

[Pegasus]

Right. You tried to put that in my mouth, now you say it is 'my fellow euro' that said that.

Go back through the thread check the posts particularly purple ones .

I am suggesting your posts seem to say anyone who turns up should be accepted .

[Pegasus]

The source is specifically showing people who are coming through Greece and Italy to reach Germany from Syria and other north african & middle eastern countries.

You are comparing the entire population of Europe, that's not accurate.

As you said before, some countries are not going to allow any refugees, and most will allow only a bit.
Sweden is sending 80,000 back. Sweden Seeks to Deport Tens of Thousands of Asylum Seekers - Bloomberg Business

Really about a million migrants are in Germany alone (look at the picture that I linked before). We're not talking ALL of Europe. Anyway, Germany has a population of about 80 million. So a million is 1.25% of the population. You can't just drop 1.25% of the population in who have no job and don't speak the language and say that is a good thing.

That's how things like this happen REVEALED: 1,000+ Migrants Brawl, Rape, Sexually Assault, And Steal At ONE German Train Station On New Year's Eve

Yep and likely to rise .

[PurpleOnes]

Neat of propaganda spreaded hysterya, there isn't any rape epidemy in Europe. There are some ethnicities, among immigrants, that are less respectful of women; others have the same respect, others again have even more respect that you can see in some Countries of the West, where the number of crimes against women is absurdely high.


According to the art. 14 of the Universal Declaration Of Human Rights (the most universal legal paper in the World), every Country who has signed the declaration or ratified it has to give protection to refugees; this right is exempt of recprocity, so if the Country the refugee is coming from has not signed the UDHR or any other similar convention, still the country who has accepted the UDHR has to protect them and can't repatriate him.

Then, we have economic immigrants; they are not refugee, so they could be repatriate; the problem is that repatriating them will carry them back again in most of cases, and anyway will probably cost more resources than just helping them and giving them some kind of job. It is doable. Also, be aware that to repatriate an immigrant, will need the cooperation of the Country where the immigrant is coming from; you can't just get an airbus and carry people in another Country' land, if there isn't a treatie, not even if that people are coming from that very same land.

Now, the real point behind all these is : who has transformed the places where these people are fleeing from, both immigrants and refugee, in hell? The West. The USA and the EU. France is crying 114 deaths by hands of terrorists. But before that has bombed Syria violating the Internationa Law and killing more innocent people than terrorists; bombing always does that, if you didn't know. Who gave to Gaddafy, Saddam Hussein, Bin Laden and other bady guys the power they abused of and still are abusing today? The West. And before that, who invaded Eritrea, Lybia, Tunisia, Algeria, India, Malaysia ....should I go on?

So, instead than screaming because they 'are raping our women and taking our resources', we should acknowledge that we are the cause of what we are seeing today. We took their lands, resources, raped theirs women, we did everything we are accusing them for. But we did that for real and in big numbers, and these are a well documented facts, not the low level politic propaganda of some cheap newspapers and magazines.

Yeah right I'm not reading the news papers here since they are trying to hide the facts.

I think your a part of those who support all these immigrants coming and you probably was welcoming them to your country with a sign that you guys are welcome here.

I would want to say a couple words to you but it would be against the rules here.

[PurpleOnes]

Marinera sounds like he is one of these immigrants or he belongs to Green part who tries to protect everything.

I have seen some of these so called ''immigrants'' being from actual terroristic organizations and the info came from the people who have tracked them not news paper.

With their actual name, Facebook posts and pictures also they have themselves posted what terroristic organization they belong to. So you also have those kind of people. They pose in army gear with guns , while you can see the locations where the pictures have been posted and all of a sudden they are in civilian clothes and in Europe supposedly being refugees.

Then you have your economic refugees which are probably the biggest group that comes in. Most of them do not even come from places where there is current war. They come strictly to get the financial benefits and they are not working. For some reason here are mostly taken 20-25 year old men and no women.

So they do rape and attack people here and have no respect for anyone here... media tries to hide it from public. They only focus on their own religion and laws.

Even those who come as refugees from war situation are not working since they are getting money sitting at home which is multiple times more than they are earning at home. 95% of all of these immigrants are not working but just sitting at home and talking to their own kind, not learning language, studying or working.

If they would not do any criminal activities even then they are problem because they are coming in masses and not working which automaticly rises unemployment. That makes the goverment raise taxes and prices for many things for people to pay and support these lazy immigrants.

[Pegasus]

By the way marinera you realise most refugees are coming from turkey; where there is no war and they are not oppressed.

[PurpleOnes]

By the way marinera you realise most refugees are coming from turkey; where there is no war and they are not oppressed.

Turkey is one countries who are in support of ISIS and let these people pass through it to come to Europe. Also Islamic country.

By support I mean ISIS has their own bases on the Turkeys territory.